[NSP] What Colin Turner was trying to say..

2009-03-31 Thread Wayne Cripps

This is what Colin was trying to say.. the list robot doesn't understand
his mail encoding - Wayne



Oops - don't know what happened to the text of my previous email.  Hope this 
one's OK.

It's on the first folk LP I ever bought - the EFDSS concert "Folksound of
Britain" EMI CLP 1910 recorded at the Royal Festival Hall in June 1965. 
Jack Armstrong and Patricia Jennings played Chevy Chase and Waters of
Tyne, the only NSP track on the LP.  The north east was also represented
by singers Bob Davenport, Louis Killen and Jack ("stumblin', not
ramblin'") Elliott.

Long since deleted, it cost me 35/- and has been cherished ever since.  

Lillian - I don't think it will be easy to track down a copy but you'll
find a track listing for the LP and its companion 7" EP here:
http://www.informatik.uni-
hamburg.de/~zierke/folk/records/folksoundofbritain.html

(Historical note: The  /-  represents shillings - not an arcane emoticon)

Cheers

C





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[NSP] (Fwd) Re: Jack Armstrong and Pat Jennings

2009-03-31 Thread Colin Turner
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[NSP] Re: Jack Armstrong and Pat Jennings

2009-03-31 Thread Colin Turner

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[NSP] Re: Jack Armstrong and Pat Jennings

2009-03-31 Thread Julia . Say
On 31 Mar 2009, rosspi...@aol.com wrote:

> This came to me but I can't help.

> -Original Message-
> From: Lilian Dell 

> I have just found in my collection of folk music The Rout of the Blues
> - Robin and Barry Dransfield.
> One of the pieces of music is The Waters of Tyne; unbelievable
> beautiful music.  On the sleeve Barry says he heard Jack Armstrong
> and Pat Jennings´ recording of this piece of music recorded at a
> Festival20 Hall concert; many years ago of course.

> Is it possible you would know where I can buy this recording

and Tim Rolls wrote on another list:

>Well this is a recording as required,
>http://www.informatik.uni-
hamburg.de/~zierke/folk/records/folksoundofbritain.html
-
I would suggest enquiring of the EFDSS:
www.efdss.org
about getting a copy of that recording (their library might have it)

The recording had the late Peter Kennedy's involvement. His archive
material is now with the Halsway Manor Society - it might be worth
contacting them to see if they have a copy.
www.halswaymanor.co.uk

A CD of Jack Armstrong & Patricia Jennings playing together exists,
but I can find no reference to it on the web.

I hope this helps

Julia Say





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[NSP] Woodhorn Colliery email address correction

2009-03-31 Thread malcraven



The e mail in the recent NPS newsletter for Liz Ritson at Woodhorn 
Colliery should be org.uk NOT co.uk

Many apologies if you have tried to use it and had your e mail bounced.
Regards
Susan Craven



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[NSP] Re: Jack Armstrong and Pat Jennings

2009-03-31 Thread rosspipes

This came to me but I can't help. Anyone out there able to.
Colin Ross



Dear Mr Ross

 

I have just found in my collection of folk music The Rout of the Blues 
– Robin and Barry Dransfield.


 

One of the pieces of music is The Waters of Tyne; unbelievable 
beautiful music.  On the sleeve Barry says he heard Jack Armstrong and 
Pat Jennings’ recording of this piece of music recorded at a Festival 
Hall concert; many years ago of course.


 

Is it possible you would know where I can buy this recording, or indeed 
any recording of this piece of music played on the Northumbrian pipes?


 

I should be most grateful to hear from you.

 

Many thanks

 

Lilian Dell

I found your society on the website – I googled it!

 





-Original Message-
From: Lilian Dell 
To: chair...@northumbrianpipers.org.uk
Sent: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:18
Subject: Jack Armstrong and Pat Jennings




Dear Mr Ross

 

I have just found in my collection of folk music The Rout of the Blues 
– Robin and Barry Dransfield.


 

One of the pieces of music is The Waters of Tyne; unbelievable 
beautiful music.  On the sleeve Barry says he heard Jack Armstrong and 
Pat Jennings’ recording of this piece of music recorded at a Festival20

Hall concert; many years ago of course.

 

Is it possible you would know where I can buy this recording, or indeed 
any recording of this piece of music played on the Northumbrian pipes?


 

I should be most grateful to hear from you.

 

Many thanks

 

Lilian Dell

I found your society on the website – I googled it!

 




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[NSP] Re: Canny Shepherd Laddies o' the Hills... back to the music

2009-03-31 Thread Christopher.Birch
>Wonderful!
>
>Which leads me to offer this one
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q28ikQaPFK4
>OK, it's fiddle-orientated rather than either sheep or smallpipes, but 
>don't you think there's scope here for a new category in 
>piping contests?
>Or perhaps simply a nice variant on the advice to practise 
>with a metronome.



Love it! Why didn't I think of that?
c



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[NSP] Re: stiff fingers and aging

2009-03-31 Thread Christopher.Birch
>I was very strict with myself about 
>using the tips
>   of my fingers for NSP, having read the phrase "little pistons" to
>   describe proper NSP technique.

Similarly you often see "correct" violin technique described as playing on the 
tips, and the phrase "little hammers" is used. Ruggiero Ricci, to whom I 
referred in my previous posting, recommends playing on the pads. He also 
recommends supporting the instrument on the wrist in good old folk/gypsy 
fashion and extending back and forth from what looks to a conventional modern 
player like third or fourth position. He got the ideas from a certain Paganini.


>   Someone wrote "speed comes from rhythm" but I think it's 
>the other way
>   around, although it's a chicken and the egg question.  
>Often rhythm is
>   sacrificed for speed.


I wrote "Speed depends on rhythmic accuracy. If you tend to stumble when 
"trying" to play something fast when practicing, stop trying and play it 
rhythmically at a speed you can manage."

Of course there are those who play flurries of notes that are all correct and 
in the right order but with no rhythmic sense. In my view this doesn't count. 
You are admittedly less likely to come up against a stumbling point if you rush 
and slow down whenever you feel like, but such rhythmic variations are purely 
for reasons of technique or lack of it (and why string sections in amateur 
orchestras often sound like a swarm of bees). You need to be able to play 
metronomically precise rhythms before any (deliberate) departures can acquire 
the status of musical expression rather than just reflecting sloppy technique. 

I wish I had come to the above conclusions very much earlier in life. Then my 
technique and speed would be far better than they are in reality - but they are 
still improving slowly as I approach the dreaded seventh decade.

Btw, experience tells me that practically all types of music from traditional 
to folk to country to classical to rock etc. have more in common than it might 
seem on the surface - especially when it comes to developing your chops.

Rule 1: get a metronome.
Rule 2: use it. 
chirs



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