[NSP] Re: Cut and Dry Dolly
On 16 Sep 2009, Dally, John wrote: > "Dolly: an old fashioned oil-lamp, a cruisie" > The Concise Scots Dictionary, Aberdeen U. Press, 1985 Another alternative, then - an empty oil lamp (dry) with a well trimmed wick (cut) H'm - that still sounds as if it might be a euphemism to me.. Julia To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Cut and Dry Dolly
Hello, Heslop’s “Northumberland Words” (1892 and 1893-4), a glossary of words used in Northumberland and on Tyneside, has several references to the word “dolly”. I give these below. Claydolly – the woman worker in a brickfield, who carries the brick from the moulder’s table to the open field where it is to be dried Cloot-dolly – a doll made of cloth Dolly – a clothes washing stick, made with feet but otherwise like a poss-stick Dolly – a contrivance attached to a chainmaker’s anvil for pressing the link after it is welded. A machine for punching iron Dolly – a woman’s name (given by Heslop in three references) Kairn-dolly – the kairn baby Kirn-dolly – the last handful of corn cut, dressed up to resemble a female figure Pot-dolly – an earthenware of porcelain doll Speaking purely personally, and without further evidence at this stage, the definition that most appeals to me is that relating to a “kirn-dolly” – the last corn to be cut which is then dressed as a female. This event appears to be a suitable cause for celebration and just the sort of event to name a tune after; further the “cut and dried” part of the name appears consistent with the cutting and drying of corn (or other cereals, perhaps). The test application of good old Occam’s Razor may support this straightforward explanation. Richard Protect your PC with 50% off Norton Security - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/securepc ___ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Recipe.
My search engine throws up 'how to make a corn dolly' and includes the words 'cut' and 'dry'. It might just be a simple as that! http://everything2.com/title/corn+dolly Stephen Douglass To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: [NPS-Discussion] Cut and Dry Dolly
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:51 PM, [1]richard.hea...@tiscali.co.uk <[2]richard.hea...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: Speaking purely personally, and without further evidence at this stage, the definition that most appeals to me is that relating to a kirn-dolly the last corn to be cut which is then dressed as a female. This event appears to be a suitable cause for celebration and just the sort of event to name a tune after; further the cut and dried part of the name appears consistent with the cutting and drying of corn (or other cereals, perhaps). The test application of good old Occams Razor may support this straightforward explanation. I'm with Richard and Stephen Douglass on this. Wikipedia gives an interesting counterpart to occam's razor which I feel applies to some of the other explanations advanced! - --- Crabtree's Bludgeon is a foil to [3]Occam's Razor, and may be expressed so: "No set of mutually inconsistent observations can exist for which some human intellect cannot conceive a coherent explanation, however complicated." -- References 1. mailto:richard.hea...@tiscali.co.uk 2. mailto:richard.hea...@tiscali.co.uk 3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_Razor To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Cut and Dry Dolly
In my blissful ignorance, I had always assumed that a cut and dry dolly was the last sheaf from the field (mind you, I used to make corn dollies so may have just latched onto that, of course). I'm quite surprised that it wasn't that simple. Amazing that the source has been long forgotten now. Barren whores, wrinkled old ladies?Maybe the cigar IS just a cigar after all. ;-) Colin Hill - Original Message - From: To: ; Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 12:51 PM Subject: [NSP] Cut and Dry Dolly Hello, Heslop’s “Northumberland Words” (1892 and 1893-4), a glossary of words used in Northumberland and on Tyneside, has several references to the word “dolly”. I give these below. Claydolly – the woman worker in a brickfield, who carries the brick from the moulder’s table to the open field where it is to be dried Cloot-dolly – a doll made of cloth Dolly – a clothes washing stick, made with feet but otherwise like a poss-stick Dolly – a contrivance attached to a chainmaker’s anvil for pressing the link after it is welded. A machine for punching iron Dolly – a woman’s name (given by Heslop in three references) Kairn-dolly – the kairn baby Kirn-dolly – the last handful of corn cut, dressed up to resemble a female figure Pot-dolly – an earthenware of porcelain doll Speaking purely personally, and without further evidence at this stage, the definition that most appeals to me is that relating to a “kirn-dolly” – the last corn to be cut which is then dressed as a female. This event appears to be a suitable cause for celebration and just the sort of event to name a tune after; further the “cut and dried” part of the name appears consistent with the cutting and drying of corn (or other cereals, perhaps). The test application of good old Occam’s Razor may support this straightforward explanation. Richard Protect your PC with 50% off Norton Security - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/securepc ___ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
