[NSP] Re: TOTM/shameless plug
Hello Dave Thanks for the copy of Mad Moll. It looks like a/the precursor of Peacock Followed The Hen to me but Matt would know better. As for modal A tunes on my Primitives, I sometimes move the sliding parts so that the two smallest ends go on the drones below and the big G end goes on little g. This gives me a pair of drones e A but the pipes don't sing as well like that, so although it's possible I rarely do it. It can be fun though and I might give it a whirl sometime soon. I'll keep you posted off list. Cheers Anthony --- On Sun, 31/7/11, Dave S david...@pt.lu wrote: From: Dave S david...@pt.lu Subject: [NSP] Re: TOTM/shameless plug To: Anthony Robb anth...@robbpipes.com Cc: Dartmouth NPS nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Sunday, 31 July, 2011, 21:00 Hi Anthony, Would it be a possibility for you to play the 1697/8 Playford Mad Moll on your primitive set? If you could get a drone pair to G C (assuming it's G setup) Mad moll is in Am and has no Fnats in it. I have attached a scan for you -- I know the NSP site will strip it off --- if anyone wants a copy let me know and I will check with Barry/Tim to get it on site somewhere best Dave S On 7/29/2011 11:16 AM, Anthony Robb wrote: Hello all I've been reluctant to vote on this since our house is fighting back whilst we put in a new kitchen, downstairs loo and new wee studio. There is building dust everywhere and my pipes, mics and other gear are packed away for the duration. Even though I can't contribute musically I would go for Peacock. Perhaps most will be familiar with the snippet: Aal the neet ower and ower And aal the neet ower agyen Aal the net ower and ower The peacock followed the hen The cock's a dainty dish The hen's aal hollow within There's nee deceit in a puddin' An' pie's a dainty thing I also think of (but no idea why or where it comes from) Won't ye come cuddle me cuddy Now won't ye come cuddle me reet Won't you come cuddle me cuddy Just as ye did yesterday neet That's about all I can offer on TOTM but I also thought some might be interested to know that I have put my chanter where my mouth is so to speak and had a very happy off-the-cuff couple of days putting down 16 tracks (4 of them double tracked) on my keyless pipes (The Primitives as maker Bill Hedworth called them). I did it primarily as a teaching resource (even though there are a few finger-busting favourites) but I've been persuaded to go for a proper production of it. Interested parties can go here to see what Stewart Hardy makes of it: [1]www.robbpipes.com Thanks for any interest Anthony -- References 1. [1]http://www.robbpipes.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3793 - Release Date: 07/28/11 -- -- References 1. http://www.robbpipes.com/ 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: TOTM/shameless plug
Images can be posted on the NPS pipersforum. Please can contributors keep their image sizes as small as reasonable. In case of difficulty, e-mail me Barry Quoting Dave S david...@pt.lu: Hi Anthony, Would it be a possibility for you to play the 1697/8 Playford Mad Moll on your primitive set? If you could get a drone pair to G C (assuming it's G setup) Mad moll is in Am and has no Fnats in it. I have attached a scan for you -- I know the NSP site will strip it off --- if anyone wants a copy let me know and I will check with Barry/Tim to get it on site somewhere best Dave S On 7/29/2011 11:16 AM, Anthony Robb wrote: Hello all I've been reluctant to vote on this since our house is fighting back whilst we put in a new kitchen, downstairs loo and new wee studio. There is building dust everywhere and my pipes, mics and other gear are packed away for the duration. Even though I can't contribute musically I would go for Peacock. Perhaps most will be familiar with the snippet: Aal the neet ower and ower And aal the neet ower agyen Aal the net ower and ower The peacock followed the hen The cock's a dainty dish The hen's aal hollow within There's nee deceit in a puddin' An' pie's a dainty thing I also think of (but no idea why or where it comes from) Won't ye come cuddle me cuddy Now won't ye come cuddle me reet Won't you come cuddle me cuddy Just as ye did yesterday neet That's about all I can offer on TOTM but I also thought some might be interested to know that I have put my chanter where my mouth is so to speak and had a very happy off-the-cuff couple of days putting down 16 tracks (4 of them double tracked) on my keyless pipes (The Primitives as maker Bill Hedworth called them). I did it primarily as a teaching resource (even though there are a few finger-busting favourites) but I've been persuaded to go for a proper production of it. Interested parties can go here to see what Stewart Hardy makes of it: [1]www.robbpipes.com Thanks for any interest Anthony -- References 1. http://www.robbpipes.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3793 - Release Date: 07/28/11 --
[NSP] Re: TOTM/shameless plug
Matt has argued an octave pair of drones tuned Gg will work for The Peacock/Mad Moll and other harmonically similar tunes like Cuckold - you want to show up the contrast between the Am and Cmaj in the first and second strain respectively. That is what Peacock probably had to do with his version, as I think bead holes weren't invented yet. John From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] on behalf of Dave S [david...@pt.lu] Sent: 31 July 2011 21:00 To: Anthony Robb Cc: Dartmouth NPS Subject: [NSP] Re: TOTM/shameless plug Hi Anthony, Would it be a possibility for you to play the 1697/8 Playford Mad Moll on your primitive set? If you could get a drone pair to G C (assuming it's G setup) Mad moll is in Am and has no Fnats in it. I have attached a scan for you -- I know the NSP site will strip it off --- if anyone wants a copy let me know and I will check with Barry/Tim to get it on site somewhere best Dave S On 7/29/2011 11:16 AM, Anthony Robb wrote: Hello all I've been reluctant to vote on this since our house is fighting back whilst we put in a new kitchen, downstairs loo and new wee studio. There is building dust everywhere and my pipes, mics and other gear are packed away for the duration. Even though I can't contribute musically I would go for Peacock. Perhaps most will be familiar with the snippet: Aal the neet ower and ower And aal the neet ower agyen Aal the net ower and ower The peacock followed the hen The cock's a dainty dish The hen's aal hollow within There's nee deceit in a puddin' An' pie's a dainty thing I also think of (but no idea why or where it comes from) Won't ye come cuddle me cuddy Now won't ye come cuddle me reet Won't you come cuddle me cuddy Just as ye did yesterday neet That's about all I can offer on TOTM but I also thought some might be interested to know that I have put my chanter where my mouth is so to speak and had a very happy off-the-cuff couple of days putting down 16 tracks (4 of them double tracked) on my keyless pipes (The Primitives as maker Bill Hedworth called them). I did it primarily as a teaching resource (even though there are a few finger-busting favourites) but I've been persuaded to go for a proper production of it. Interested parties can go here to see what Stewart Hardy makes of it: [1]www.robbpipes.com Thanks for any interest Anthony -- References 1. http://www.robbpipes.com/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3793 - Release Date: 07/28/11 --
[NSP] Re: TOTM/shameless plug
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Gibbons, John [1]j.gibb...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: Matt has argued an octave pair of drones tuned Gg will work for The Peacock/Mad Moll and other harmonically similar tunes like Cuckold - you want to show up the contrast between the Am and Cmaj in the first and second strain respectively. That is what Peacock probably had to do with his version, as I think bead holes weren't invented yet. The reasoning behind this is that A minor over G drones sounds like A minor 'sitting' on top of G drones, while Cmaj over A drones sounds like A minor 7, so the contrast is lost. It's also the equivalent of what happens with Uilleann, Highland and Border pipes, where drones are a constant over which variety is played out, and different modal centres sound - different! From this standpoint, a movable drone is a contradiction. Obviously, it's not the only standpoint, but worth being aware of. -- References 1. mailto:j.gibb...@imperial.ac.uk To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: TOTM
--- On Sun, 31/7/11, Gibbons, John j.gibb...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: Matt has argued an octave pair of drones tuned Gg will work for The Peacock/Mad Moll and other harmonically similar tunes like Cuckold - you want to show up the contrast between the Am and Cmaj in the first and second strain respectively. Hello John The quick answer for me is, I'm not sure I do but I might be open to persuasion. Might it be possible for you to borrow a recorder of some sort (cam or audio) and let us see/hear what you mean? I know if I tried my heart wouldn't be in it and I'd probably not be able to convince myself but the sound of someone playing like that with conviction might open my ears and mind. I should admit much of this is above my head (dots are one thing but theory is even lower down my list of must dos in whatever time I have left - as some one recently said, talking about music is like standing with two young boys in front of a sweet shop and explaining to them how sweets are made). Give us the theory by all means but please sweeten the pill with the sounds to bring it all to life. The only way to learn traditional music is by listening, listening, listening then listening again - an approach instilled in me 37 years ago by John Doonan and corroborated only last night by Jimmy Little. I'm sure you have experience and knowledge to impart - it would be great if you shared it aurally and not just on paper. Cheers Anthony -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
