[NSP] Re: flat chanter in the middle

2011-11-16 Thread Kevin
   Many thanks to all who wrote about my chanter being flat. i did what
   you advised and it has solved the problem. many thanks my chanter is
   now back in tune.
   best wishes
   kevin
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   From: Dave Shaw d...@daveshaw.co.uk
   To: Kevin tilb...@yahoo.com; Dartmouth nsp list N.P.S. site
   nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
   Sent: Tuesday, 15 November 2011, 10:16
   Subject: [NSP] Re: flat chanter in the middle
   Hi Kevin
   I would agree with the detail of Philips advice.
   When the octaves are in tune with each other and the fifth is flat then
   the reed is too long.
   You need to shorten the reed by half millimetre cuts(or less) until the
   intervals are correct.
   I use a cut throat type razor for this, on an endgrain hardwood block (
   boxwood).
   A heavy craft knife would do on some firm surface, but you have to be
   careful as you can give yourself a nasty cut
   if the slightest slip occurs.
   Tuning the chanter to proper pitch is a whole different ballgame!
   Cheers,
   Dave
   Dave Shaw, Northumbrian and Scottish Smallpipes, Irish Pipes and SHAW
   Whistles
   www.daveshaw.co.uk
   - Original Message - From: Kevin [1]tilb...@yahoo.com
   To: Dartmouth nsp list N.P.S. site [2]nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
   Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 8:20 PM
   Subject: [NSP] flat chanter in the middle
 Hi to All,
 Can anyone advice me on the tuning of my chanter to the drones. The
   top
 G and the bottom G are in tune with the drones but the middle notes
 especially the D is a fraction out of tune, a little flat. is this
 rectified by moving the reed, if so which way? or opening the reed
   or
 closing it?
 the chanter has been in tune in the past but since changing the reed
   i
 find these problems, it is either the top/bottom notes are out or
   the
 middle notes are outany advice?
 thanks
 kevin
   
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[NSP] Re: flat chanter in the middle

2011-11-16 Thread Barry Say

Hi all,

I agree with most of what has been said on this thread. I only 
restricted my advice to reed opening because I only wanted to mention 
clipping the reed when all else had been tried. It is after all 
irreversible, unless someone has found a way of gluing the bits back on?


There was one other option I thought  of which was to move the reed 
farther out of the chanter and play at a slightly higher pressure. If 
this cures the problem and the resulting pressure is too high, then the 
reed must be scraped to soften it, clipped to sharpen it c. c.


However, right now I would like to know how Kevin got his chanter in 
tune as this will add to my knowledge.


Barry



Gibbons, John wrote:

Kevin,

What was the trouble in the end?
Or more precisely, what remedy cured it?

I'd trust the ones with hands on experimental knowledge rather than a mere 
theoretician,
but theory is all I have!

John


From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] on behalf of Kevin 
[tilb...@yahoo.com]
Sent: 16 November 2011 08:57
To: Dartmouth nsp list N.P.S. site
Subject: [NSP] Re: flat chanter in the middle

Many thanks to all who wrote about my chanter being flat. i did what
you advised and it has solved the problem. many thanks my chanter is
now back in tune.
best wishes
kevin
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From: Dave Shawd...@daveshaw.co.uk
To: Kevintilb...@yahoo.com; Dartmouth nsp list N.P.S. site
nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Tuesday, 15 November 2011, 10:16
Subject: [NSP] Re: flat chanter in the middle
Hi Kevin
I would agree with the detail of Philips advice.
When the octaves are in tune with each other and the fifth is flat then
the reed is too long.
You need to shorten the reed by half millimetre cuts(or less) until the
intervals are correct.
I use a cut throat type razor for this, on an endgrain hardwood block (
boxwood).
A heavy craft knife would do on some firm surface, but you have to be
careful as you can give yourself a nasty cut
if the slightest slip occurs.
Tuning the chanter to proper pitch is a whole different ballgame!
Cheers,
Dave
Dave Shaw, Northumbrian and Scottish Smallpipes, Irish Pipes and SHAW
Whistles
www.daveshaw.co.uk
- Original Message - From: Kevin[1]tilb...@yahoo.com
To: Dartmouth nsp list N.P.S. site[2]nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 8:20 PM
Subject: [NSP] flat chanter in the middle
   Hi to All,
   Can anyone advice me on the tuning of my chanter to the drones. The
top
   G and the bottom G are in tune with the drones but the middle notes
   especially the D is a fraction out of tune, a little flat. is this
   rectified by moving the reed, if so which way? or opening the reed
or
   closing it?
   the chanter has been in tune in the past but since changing the reed
i
   find these problems, it is either the top/bottom notes are out or
the
   middle notes are outany advice?
   thanks
   kevin

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