[NSP] facebook and the forum
On 16 Aug 2012, Richard Evans wrote: So I created a facebook account and found the nps page but all I see is a wikipedia extract. Is there some kind of forum or something? Try searching on: Northumbrian Piping Newsgroup in fbook - its kinda silly season there at the moment. OK, thanks, got it. It doesn't seem easy, can't figure out how to post anything. No doubt I'll work it out. what's wrong with the excellent and underused NPS forums? the take up and usage on it is extremely disappointing. Its a really good place to have sensible discussion , threaded so you can pick and choose subjects - and they get archived so can be referred to later, whereas here on a busy day (what happened to them?) it got a bit jumbled up. Absolutely, and I don't see why the facebook stuff isn't on there. I can't be the only person who doesn't use facebook. Yesterday there hadn't been a post since 8 Aug, although I am about to rectify that with some anorak-ish stuff about drone reeds. Cheers Richard -- Richard Evans To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: facebook and the forum
One of the problems with the NSP forum is that there seems to be no addressing of well discussed problems. The stuff is spread over too many sub forums some of which are just vanity areas for a couple of people to bang on about stuff that interests only them. I understand that there was a lively discussion earlier this year when some sensible suggestions were made but, as usual, nothing came of them as the usual inertia and weak excuses took over to avoid making any effort to change. I did note that one of the people responsible posted:- I don't think the forum is hidden away, but I do think that the fact that it has an independent URL ([1]http://northumbrianpipers.org.uk/piperforum/) and can be reached without getting involved in the CMS part of the website is advantageous. but, as normal, the posted link didn't work and just resulted in The requested URL /piperforum/ was not found on this server. The correct URL should have been http://www.northumbrianpipers.org.uk/pipersforum/index.php so a grand opportunity remains out of reach!! Bill Hill-Smith (France) AKA The piping Hobbit -- References 1. http://northumbrianpipers.org.uk/piperforum/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: small coals, and the peacock following the hen
Derek Lofthouse recently wrote: A question I forgot to ask though, are these 2 tunes played much? Hello Derek The tunes are popular in some circles and have been for some time. I remember Chuck Fleming leading us all with 'Peacock Followed ..' in the pub at Kathryn's (Tickell) 21st birthday party yelling do it again after each time through with words to the effect that it was a very enjoyable tune, the best Northumbrian one he'd come across (but not so politely put). We played it 10 or 12 times - it might have even been more. More recently I taught the same tune by ear to 150 youngsters at The Youth Summer School in Durham (Folkworks) with the words: Won't you come cuddle me, cuddy Now won't you come cuddle me reet Won't you come cuddle me, cuddy Just as ye did yesterday neet .. As for 'Small Coals..' it was also popular with the same age group and I did some 2nds for the nimble-fingered to do. I've got it as a pdf which I can send down the wires to anyone interested. Best wishes Anthony From: DEREK LOFTHOUSE dloftho...@shaw.ca To: Matt Seattle theborderpi...@googlemail.com Cc: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, 15 August 2012, 14:14 Subject: [NSP] Re: small coals, and the peacock following the hen Thanks Matt, Anthony, John and Kevin for your thoughts on these tunes. I will try the ideas you guys have suggested and I guess go with what works best for me. I guess it a matter of what you are used to, when i play border pipes I have no problem with 'discordant' drones, ex. playing in Bm with A drones, but i am used to just playing mainly G and D tunes (with the occassional venture into A and E)on the NSP with the appropriate drones. I'll and do more of it and maybe it will start sounding better to me. A question I forgot to ask though, are these 2 tunes played much? thanks again Derek - Original Message - From: Matt Seattle [1]theborderpi...@googlemail.com To: [2]nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 4:27:50 AM Subject: [NSP] Re: small coals, and the peacock following the hen On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Anthony Robb [1][3]anth...@robbpipes.com wrote: Here is what Forster Charlton, Colin Ross and Roland Wright put in the introduction to the second edition to the NPS 1st Tune Book: Small Coals and Little Money and Cuckold Come Out The Amrey are in an unusual mode for which the drones should be tuned to the notes A and E. Any drone which will not tune to either of these two notes is best shut off! Personally, I agree - others don't. Where I disagree is in saying they are in the same mode. Small Coals is a straightforward A minor tune, although with no 6th (F#) it's neither dorian nor aeolian mode. There is a case for tuning the drones to A for Small Coals if you insist on the drones being concordant with the home key or mode of the tune. I don't personally find that an issue, and neither do other bagpipe traditions, where drones are what drones were meant to be - fixed, so that tunes in different modes sound like they are in different modes. For me, Cuckold is a mixed-mode tune with alternating A minor and C major strains, where A drones have the effect of masking the C major sections because, over A drones, these also sound like A minor. So, if I were an NSP player, I'd leave the drones in G for this tune, which I am well aware is heresy. [2][4]http://youtu.be/71KwJ11O0fI -- References 1. mailto:[5]anth...@robbpipes.com 2. [6]http://youtu.be/71KwJ11O0fI To get on or off this list see list information at [7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:theborderpi...@googlemail.com 2. mailto:nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu 3. mailto:anth...@robbpipes.com 4. http://youtu.be/71KwJ11O0fI 5. mailto:anth...@robbpipes.com 6. http://youtu.be/71KwJ11O0fI 7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: facebook and the forum
Well, somewhere along the line I totally missed the fact that there even was a forum! Thanks for bringing the subject up again, I've registered now. Colin Hill On 17/08/2012 12:04, Matt Seattle wrote: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Bilbo Hill [1]bilbo_h...@email.com wrote: The stuff is spread over too many sub forums some of which are just vanity areas for a couple of people to bang on about stuff that interests only them. Is that a projection? I see no vanity areas, only an intelligent and generally successful attempt to divide it into areas of interest. For some, the mechanics of the instrument are a consuming passion. I am not one of these, but I am grateful that there are such people because without them no pipe music would enter the world. For me, the music itself is a consuming passion, and I am disappointed that my favorite [sic] forum, Peacock's Parlour, is not more widely visited and used. But that is how it is, you can't hit people over the head with it, and no-one's hitting me over the head about reed-making and key-pads. -- References 1. mailto:bilbo_h...@email.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5203 - Release Date: 08/15/12 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5204 - Release Date: 08/16/12
[NSP] Re: facebook and the forum
The trouble is - all us monomaniacs followed the Forum, and nobody joined us. Are they trying to tell us something? 'Here's a lovely forum to have your discussions in', then they tiptoe away quietly and have a great party somewhere else. John From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] on behalf of Matt Seattle [theborderpi...@googlemail.com] Sent: 17 August 2012 12:04 To: NSP group Subject: [NSP] Re: facebook and the forum On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Bilbo Hill [1]bilbo_h...@email.com wrote: The stuff is spread over too many sub forums some of which are just vanity areas for a couple of people to bang on about stuff that interests only them. Is that a projection? I see no vanity areas, only an intelligent and generally successful attempt to divide it into areas of interest. For some, the mechanics of the instrument are a consuming passion. I am not one of these, but I am grateful that there are such people because without them no pipe music would enter the world. For me, the music itself is a consuming passion, and I am disappointed that my favorite [sic] forum, Peacock's Parlour, is not more widely visited and used. But that is how it is, you can't hit people over the head with it, and no-one's hitting me over the head about reed-making and key-pads. -- References 1. mailto:bilbo_h...@email.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: facebook and the forum
Gibbons, John wrote: The trouble is - all us monomaniacs followed the Forum, and nobody joined us. Are they trying to tell us something? 'Here's a lovely forum to have your discussions in', then they tiptoe away quietly and have a great party somewhere else. John Yes, John, a very good summary! The whole situation makes no sense- the forums have great potential as an expanding resource, and no downside at all but all the chat is going on on a platform which requires you to join an organisation with a terrible reputation for infringing privacy ( Facebook, not the NPS!!!). Cheers Richard -- Richard Evans To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
