[NSP] Re: Bag cloth
forget the tattooing... i want to see the pierced bags... with studs and rings... victor On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 03:06, Richard York [1]rich...@lizards.force9.co.uk wrote: On 12/08/2010 11:05, Richard York wrote: Go on, someone plase suggest tattooing the bag :) R On 12/08/2010 11:01, Philip Gruar wrote: Does this still work if the skin is covered with tattoos? Philip - Original Message - From: Barry Say [1][2]barr...@nspipes.co.uk To: NSP group [2][3]...@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 10:53 AM Subject: [NSP] Re: Bag cloth Does anyone remember a thread from the distant past when a now well-respected piper suggested playing in one's skin was a good way of discovering bellows leaks? Barry To get on or off this list see list information at [3][4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:[5]barr...@nspipes.co.uk 2. mailto:[6]...@cs.dartmouth.edu 3. [7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:rich...@lizards.force9.co.uk 2. mailto:barr...@nspipes.co.uk 3. mailto:nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html 5. mailto:barr...@nspipes.co.uk 6. mailto:nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu 7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Bag cloth
Thanks to all for the wealth of information. Barry's reply suggests a possible need for a new sub-group within the NPS, the naturist sectionon second thoughts, I don't even want to picture it!! Best wishes, Richard. On 11/08/2010 22:09, Barry Say wrote: But why bother with a cover. With a really nice leather bag such as Jackie Boyce or a leather craftworker would make, why not go au naturelle. Barry I'm replacing the cover for my bag, Has anyone out there any experience of other cloths and their potential drawbacks? -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Bag cloth
On 12 Aug 2010, Richard York wrote: Barry's reply suggests a possible need for a new sub-group within the NPS, the naturist section Richard - you owe me a new keyboard to replace the one I just spat tea all over!! v. big grin what an 'orrid thought at 10am Julia To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Bag cloth
Actually I have a picture in my book of Barry playing au naturelle. Um, I mean the bag is not covered. Thankfully, Barry himself is! (what is the emoticon for a big sigh of relief) On 8/12/2010 3:55 AM, Richard York wrote: Thanks to all for the wealth of information. Barry's reply suggests a possible need for a new sub-group within the NPS, the naturist sectionon second thoughts, I don't even want to picture it!! Best wishes, Richard. On 11/08/2010 22:09, Barry Say wrote: But why bother with a cover. With a really nice leather bag such as Jackie Boyce or a leather craftworker would make, why not go au naturelle. Barry I'm replacing the cover for my bag,Has anyone out there any experience of other cloths and their potential drawbacks? -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- John Liestman
[NSP] Re: Bag cloth
Does anyone remember a thread from the distant past when a now well-respected piper suggested playing in one's skin was a good way of discovering bellows leaks? Barry On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 10:06:00 +0100 Francis Wood oatenp...@googlemail.com wrote: On 12 Aug 2010, at 09:55, Richard York wrote: a new sub-group within the NPS, the naturist section. H . . . one step nearer to the NPS nude calendar, I fear. Francis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Bag cloth
Does this still work if the skin is covered with tattoos? Philip - Original Message - From: Barry Say barr...@nspipes.co.uk To: NSP group nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 10:53 AM Subject: [NSP] Re: Bag cloth Does anyone remember a thread from the distant past when a now well-respected piper suggested playing in one's skin was a good way of discovering bellows leaks? Barry To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Bag cloth
On 12/08/2010 11:05, Richard York wrote: Go on, someone plase suggest tattooing the bag :) R On 12/08/2010 11:01, Philip Gruar wrote: Does this still work if the skin is covered with tattoos? Philip - Original Message - From: Barry Say [1]barr...@nspipes.co.uk To: NSP group [2]nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 10:53 AM Subject: [NSP] Re: Bag cloth Does anyone remember a thread from the distant past when a now well-respected piper suggested playing in one's skin was a good way of discovering bellows leaks? Barry To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:barr...@nspipes.co.uk 2. mailto:nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Bag cloth
Helen, I still have the pattern for your cat-bag. Did you copyright it, or shall I start a new business making cat- bags? Come to think of it, I haven't got time to start a new business. Marianne. Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 13:36:03 +1200 To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu From: helen.ca...@paradise.net.nz Subject: [NSP] Re: Bag cloth Interestingly, when I made a 'costume' for my pipes, in a moment of madness, to make them look like I was playing a cat, they ended up sounding very muffled. It is important to allow the bag to be the sound chamber and not over insulate it. I know, I will be the but of cat jokes for ever now! I still haven't made the kiwi look-alike, anyone want to make me a curved chanter? Helen To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[NSP] Re: Bag cloth
On 12 Aug 2010, at 17:27, Richard Shuttleworth wrote: Some of us have longer chanters. (grin) Length isn't everything. It's what you . . . . Hell, you can tell it's August! Francis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Bag cloth
This might just explain why the Dutch for the silly season is ...errm... cucumber time (komkommertijd). ;-) Cheers, Paul Gretton -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Francis Wood Sent: 12 August 2010 18:42 To: Richard Shuttleworth Cc: NSP group Subject: [NSP] Re: Bag cloth On 12 Aug 2010, at 17:27, Richard Shuttleworth wrote: Some of us have longer chanters. (grin) Length isn't everything. It's what you . . . . Hell, you can tell it's August! Francis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Bag cloth
off the top of my head... velvet has some grip... don't want your bag to keep slipping... Victor On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 13:37, Richard York [1]rich...@lizards.force9.co.uk wrote: Greetings. I'm replacing the cover for my bag, due to replacing the leather bag with a longer necked one, which would otherwise poke out in an undignified way. I've only ever seen velvet used on bag covers so far. Is it just a fine tradition, or is there some reason why other cloths may be inappropriate? Has anyone out there any experience of other cloths and their potential drawbacks? If I do end up with a different cloth, do I get excommunicated, or burnt, or anything like that? Best wishes, Richard. To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:rich...@lizards.force9.co.uk 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Bag cloth
Hello Richard, One advantage of velvet is that it provides sufficient friction to encourage a secure hold on the bag. Many people use the Northumbrian black white plaid, sometimes called 'shepherds' plaid' for the same reason as well as a notion of 'cultural appropriateness'. However if excessive dressing has been used in the bag, such a cover will quickly stain whereas dark velvet is more forgiving. No need to use anything at all of course if you have a good leather bag and don't mind the look of it. You'll find an example on the front of Rob Say's excellent new CD. The risk of excommunication and burning at the stake for deviant bag-cover use is not currently substantial. Francis On 11 Aug 2010, at 21:37, Richard York wrote: Greetings. I'm replacing the cover for my bag, due to replacing the leather bag with a longer necked one, which would otherwise poke out in an undignified way. I've only ever seen velvet used on bag covers so far. Is it just a fine tradition, or is there some reason why other cloths may be inappropriate? Has anyone out there any experience of other cloths and their potential drawbacks? If I do end up with a different cloth, do I get excommunicated, or burnt, or anything like that? Best wishes, Richard. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Bag cloth
Interestingly, when I made a 'costume' for my pipes, in a moment of madness, to make them look like I was playing a cat, they ended up sounding very muffled. It is important to allow the bag to be the sound chamber and not over insulate it. I know, I will be the but of cat jokes for ever now! I still haven't made the kiwi look-alike, anyone want to make me a curved chanter? Helen To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Bag cloth
Richard Consider corduroy. It gives at least as good a grip as velvet, doesn't wear thin patches as readily, and is a heck of a lot cheaper. I actually prefer it to velvet. Going without a cover is ok until you start to sweat. Then it can feel really icky. Alec In a message dated 8/11/2010 1:39:01 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rich...@lizards.force9.co.uk writes: Greetings. I'm replacing the cover for my bag, due to replacing the leather bag with a longer necked one, which would otherwise poke out in an undignified way. I've only ever seen velvet used on bag covers so far. Is it just a fine tradition, or is there some reason why other cloths may be inappropriate? Has anyone out there any experience of other cloths and their potential drawbacks? If I do end up with a different cloth, do I get excommunicated, or burnt, or anything like that? Best wishes, Richard. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --