[NSP] Re: September TOTM
Cuddy Claw'd Her - OK, if a 'consensus' is reached by three people!! But there is little rationale for recommending Peacock's setting to players of Border pipes, as it is one of his tunes which are so obviously 'adapted' to smallpipes by the replacement of all the low F naturals - with high e, of all possibilities. It's not a tune I've gone for so far myself, but Dixon's setting is convincing, and one I've heard convincingly played by Pete Stewart and Dave Faulkner. The Clough setting is also worth serious consideration: it has the authority not only of the Cloughs but of the 'Charlton' book, presumably from one of John Armstrong of Carrick's mss, and also of the enigmatic Reavely ms., presumed to be roughly contemporary with Peacock. The very lightly 'unadapted' version is in the current edition of the 'little yellow book'. And yes I'm working on all the tunes but don't have a camera!! On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 12:30 AM, John Dally <[1]dir...@gmail.com> wrote: The consensus for September's TOTM is Peacock, specifically "Cuddy Claw'd Her". This tune can be played on the Northumbrian half-long pipes (which I think should be called the Northumbrian twice as long pipes), as well as the Northumbrian smallpipes. Remember, you can post any month's tune at any time. I hope to have my NSP "Peacock follows the Hen" up soon. -- To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:dir...@gmail.com 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: September TOTM
Happy to add a 4th vote to this overwhelming consensus of 3. Cuddy is a wonderful tune - and most versions are somehow excellent, even if not all the same. For a real outlier, look at the Scottish pipe-style fiddle version in 'The Master Piper' - Matt will remember the source. John -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Matt Seattle Sent: 01 September 2011 16:13 To: NSP group Subject: [NSP] Re: September TOTM Cuddy Claw'd Her - OK, if a 'consensus' is reached by three people!! But there is little rationale for recommending Peacock's setting to players of Border pipes, as it is one of his tunes which are so obviously 'adapted' to smallpipes by the replacement of all the low F naturals - with high e, of all possibilities. It's not a tune I've gone for so far myself, but Dixon's setting is convincing, and one I've heard convincingly played by Pete Stewart and Dave Faulkner. The Clough setting is also worth serious consideration: it has the authority not only of the Cloughs but of the 'Charlton' book, presumably from one of John Armstrong of Carrick's mss, and also of the enigmatic Reavely ms., presumed to be roughly contemporary with Peacock. The very lightly 'unadapted' version is in the current edition of the 'little yellow book'. And yes I'm working on all the tunes but don't have a camera!! On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 12:30 AM, John Dally <[1]dir...@gmail.com> wrote: The consensus for September's TOTM is Peacock, specifically "Cuddy Claw'd Her". This tune can be played on the Northumbrian half-long pipes (which I think should be called the Northumbrian twice as long pipes), as well as the Northumbrian smallpipes. Remember, you can post any month's tune at any time. I hope to have my NSP "Peacock follows the Hen" up soon. -- To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:dir...@gmail.com 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: September TOTM
Thanks for the excellent commentary, Matt. Because it was the tune itself and not the particular setting that aroused the interest of the few pipers who responded, then I suggest we pick "Cuddy Claw'd Her" as the TOTM, any setting acceptable. That is, unless anyone objects. Pipers are encouraged to make commentary on their performances, explaining the research behind it, discuss their desicions about tempo, rhythm, etc. It would also be interesting to include information on the instrument used in the performance. On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Matt Seattle <[1]theborderpi...@googlemail.com> wrote: Cuddy Claw'd Her - OK, if a 'consensus' is reached by three people!! But there is little rationale for recommending Peacock's setting to players of Border pipes, as it is one of his tunes which are so obviously 'adapted' to smallpipes by the replacement of all the low F naturals - with high e, of all possibilities. It's not a tune I've gone for so far myself, but Dixon's setting is convincing, and one I've heard convincingly played by Pete Stewart and Dave Faulkner. The Clough setting is also worth serious consideration: it has the authority not only of the Cloughs but of the 'Charlton' book, presumably from one of John Armstrong of Carrick's mss, and also of the enigmatic Reavely ms., presumed to be roughly contemporary with Peacock. The very lightly 'unadapted' version is in the current edition of the 'little yellow book'. And yes I'm working on all the tunes but don't have a camera!! On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 12:30 AM, John Dally <[1][2]dir...@gmail.com> wrote: The consensus for September's TOTM is Peacock, specifically "Cuddy Claw'd Her". This tune can be played on the Northumbrian half-long pipes (which I think should be called the Northumbrian twice as long pipes), as well as the Northumbrian smallpipes. Remember, you can post any month's tune at any time. I hope to have my NSP "Peacock follows the Hen" up soon. -- To get on or off this list see list information at [2][3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:[4]dir...@gmail.com 2. [5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:theborderpi...@googlemail.com 2. mailto:dir...@gmail.com 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 4. mailto:dir...@gmail.com 5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: September TOTM
Ok, here's an audio-only version. Just the first 2 parts of the Peacock setting - setting selected due to limited competence, I certainly intend to investigate the other settings. Tempo mostly constrained by being able to hit the semiquavers with at least roughly right. http://soundcloud.com/edric-ellis/cuddy-clawed-her-1st-sept Played on my new set of Richard Evans NSPs (https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/XFdmYBwiF02PrGZOI7Q5TQ?feat=directlink) Cheers, Edric. > -Original Message- > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf > Of John Dally > Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 5:46 PM > To: Matt Seattle > Cc: NSP group > Subject: [NSP] Re: September TOTM > >Thanks for the excellent commentary, Matt. > >Because it was the tune itself and not the particular setting that >aroused the interest of the few pipers who responded, then I suggest we >pick "Cuddy Claw'd Her" as the TOTM, any setting acceptable. That is, >unless anyone objects. > >Pipers are encouraged to make commentary on their performances, >explaining the research behind it, discuss their desicions about tempo, >rhythm, etc. It would also be interesting to include information on >the instrument used in the performance. > >On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Matt Seattle ><[1]theborderpi...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >Cuddy Claw'd Her - OK, if a 'consensus' is reached by three > people!! >But there is little rationale for recommending Peacock's setting > to >players of Border pipes, as it is one of his tunes which are so >obviously 'adapted' to smallpipes by the replacement of all the > low F >naturals - with high e, of all possibilities. >It's not a tune I've gone for so far myself, but Dixon's setting > is >convincing, and one I've heard convincingly played by Pete Stewart > and >Dave Faulkner. The Clough setting is also worth serious > consideration: >it has the authority not only of the Cloughs but of the 'Charlton' >book, presumably from one of John Armstrong of Carrick's mss, and > also >of the enigmatic Reavely ms., presumed to be roughly contemporary > with >Peacock. The very lightly 'unadapted' version is in the current > edition >of the 'little yellow book'. >And yes I'm working on all the tunes but don't have a camera!! >On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 12:30 AM, John Dally > <[1][2]dir...@gmail.com> >wrote: >The consensus for September's TOTM is Peacock, specifically > "Cuddy >Claw'd Her". >This tune can be played on the Northumbrian half-long pipes > (which > I >think should be called the Northumbrian twice as long pipes), > as > well >as the Northumbrian smallpipes. >Remember, you can post any month's tune at any time. I hope > to > have my >NSP "Peacock follows the Hen" up soon. >-- > To get on or off this list see list information at > [2][3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >-- > References >1. mailto:[4]dir...@gmail.com >2. [5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > >-- > > References > >1. mailto:theborderpi...@googlemail.com >2. mailto:dir...@gmail.com >3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >4. mailto:dir...@gmail.com >5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: September TOTM
Beautiful pipes Edric. Love the sound of your chanter. Beautiful playing too. Thanks for posting. On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Edric Ellis <[1]edric.el...@mathworks.co.uk> wrote: Ok, here's an audio-only version. Just the first 2 parts of the Peacock setting - setting selected due to limited competence, I certainly intend to investigate the other settings. Tempo mostly constrained by being able to hit the semiquavers with at least roughly right. [2]http://soundcloud.com/edric-ellis/cuddy-clawed-her-1st-sept Played on my new set of Richard Evans NSPs ([3]https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/XFdmYBwiF02PrGZOI7Q5TQ?fea t=directlink) Cheers, Edric. > -Original Message- > From: [4]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[5]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf > Of John Dally > Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 5:46 PM > To: Matt Seattle > Cc: NSP group > Subject: [NSP] Re: September TOTM > >Thanks for the excellent commentary, Matt. > >Because it was the tune itself and not the particular setting that >aroused the interest of the few pipers who responded, then I suggest we >pick "Cuddy Claw'd Her" as the TOTM, any setting acceptable. That is, >unless anyone objects. > >Pipers are encouraged to make commentary on their performances, >explaining the research behind it, discuss their desicions about tempo, >rhythm, etc. It would also be interesting to include information on >the instrument used in the performance. > >On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Matt Seattle ><[1][6]theborderpi...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >Cuddy Claw'd Her - OK, if a 'consensus' is reached by three > people!! >But there is little rationale for recommending Peacock's setting > to >players of Border pipes, as it is one of his tunes which are so >obviously 'adapted' to smallpipes by the replacement of all the > low F >naturals - with high e, of all possibilities. >It's not a tune I've gone for so far myself, but Dixon's setting > is >convincing, and one I've heard convincingly played by Pete Stewart > and >Dave Faulkner. The Clough setting is also worth serious > consideration: >it has the authority not only of the Cloughs but of the 'Charlton' >book, presumably from one of John Armstrong of Carrick's mss, and > also >of the enigmatic Reavely ms., presumed to be roughly contemporary > with >Peacock. The very lightly 'unadapted' version is in the current > edition >of the 'little yellow book'. >And yes I'm working on all the tunes but don't have a camera!! >On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 12:30 AM, John Dally > <[1][2][7]dir...@gmail.com> >wrote: >The consensus for September's TOTM is Peacock, specifically > "Cuddy >Claw'd Her". >This tune can be played on the Northumbrian half-long pipes > (which > I >think should be called the Northumbrian twice as long pipes), > as > well >as the Northumbrian smallpipes. >Remember, you can post any month's tune at any time. I hope > to > have my >NSP "Peacock follows the Hen" up soon. >-- > To get on or off this list see list information at > [2][3][8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >-- > References >1. mailto:[4][9]dir...@gmail.com >2. [5][10]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > >-- > > References > >1. mailto:[11]theborderpi...@googlemail.com >2. mailto:[12]dir...@gmail.com >3. [13]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >4. mailto:[14]dir...@gmail.com >5. [15]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:edric.el...@mathworks.co.uk 2. http://soundcloud.com/edric-ellis/cuddy-clawed-her-1st-sept 3. https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/XFdmYBwiF02PrGZOI7Q5TQ?feat=directlink 4. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 5. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 6. mailto:thebor
