Re: [Nssbackup-team] [Bug 622512] [NEW] Cannot backup to smb location

2010-08-23 Thread Anton
On 23/08/10 03:52, Gotit wrote:
 Public bug reported:

 Cannot use an smb location for backup destination as stated on the NSsbackup 
 homepage:
 Some will do the backup on your hard drive while others will do on a remote 
 location ( on a SSH, FTP, SMB server ... ) .
 NSsbackup is one of those software.

 I specified an smb location (smb://homenet/usb_storage/) but when I press the 
 Test button I get a pop-up that states:
   No plugin could deal with that schema 'smb://homenet/usb_storage/'

 Running:
 NSsbackup v0.2.1
 Ubuntu 9.04

This has been fixed on NSsbackup 0.3 or Sbackup 0.11 (they're identical 
now).


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[Nssbackup-team] [Bug 622496] Re: problem occurs if nssbackup is run with the destination drive not present. It looses the config info.

2010-08-23 Thread Jean-Peer Lorenz
Thank you for using nssbackup and reporting this issue.

I cannot confirm your described behavior. nssbackup works as follows:

start the configuration, plug in your external harddrive and specify a
directory on the external drive as backup destination. Save your
configuration.

When running a backup (scheduled or manual), it is checked for the
presence of your custom backup destination and used. If the external
disk (or whatever is specified) is not found, a message box appears
which states: Destination not found. Please make sure the path exists
(e.g. by mounting external disk). You can retry or cancel You can
now plug in your external disk and proceed or the backup is canceled
after 300 sec if you do nothing. I think this is what you expect, isn't
it?

Slightly different when opening the configuration. If you open the
configuration again, without the external drive being present, another
error message is showed: Destination path not found. It is set to the
default value. Check the value before you save your configuration. That
is, the destination value is not saved to disk/modified on disk unless
you save your configuration again. Closing the configuration without
saving will result in no modification of your previous
configuration/specified destination. Purpose of this behavior is not to
support a non-existing destination path when modifying the
configuration. The user is forced to set the destination to an existing
path when he/she sets up a backup.

Does it work for you in this way?


What I see here, is maybe a feature request. The error message (or choices) 
that are shown when opening the configuration while the destination is 
unavailable could be improved. A problem might arise when starting the 
configuration gui just for running a backup and not for modifying settings.


P.S: As you might recognized, nssbackup and SBackup are finally re-
merged. SBackup 0.11.x is identical with nssbackup 0.3.x. Development
will take place in SBackup (to stop confusion) from now. So, you're
invited to use SBackup from now. Thanks.

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problem occurs if nssbackup is run with the destination drive not present. It 
looses the config info.
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[Nssbackup-team] [Bug 622512] Re: Cannot backup to smb location

2010-08-23 Thread Jean-Peer Lorenz
@Gotit: Thank you for using nssbackup and reporting this issue.
Currently there are no updated packages prepared for Ubuntu 9.04. I'll
fix this and provide packages ASAP.

As you might recognized, nssbackup and SBackup are finally re-merged.
SBackup 0.11.x is identical with nssbackup 0.3.x. Development will take
place in SBackup (to stop confusion) from now. So, you're invited to use
SBackup from now. Thanks.


** Summary changed:

- Cannot backup to smb location
+ No updated packages available for Ubuntu pre-Lucid

** Changed in: nssbackup
   Status: New = Confirmed

** Changed in: nssbackup
   Importance: Undecided = Low

** Description changed:

  Cannot use an smb location for backup destination as stated on the NSsbackup 
homepage:
  Some will do the backup on your hard drive while others will do on a remote 
location ( on a SSH, FTP, SMB server ... ) .
  NSsbackup is one of those software.
  
  I specified an smb location (smb://homenet/usb_storage/) but when I press the 
Test button I get a pop-up that states:
-  No plugin could deal with that schema 'smb://homenet/usb_storage/'
+  No plugin could deal with that schema 'smb://homenet/usb_storage/'
  
  Running:
  NSsbackup v0.2.1
  Ubuntu 9.04
  
  Installed the PPA from https://edge.launchpad.net/~nssbackup-
  team/+archive/ppa
+ 
+ 
+ - This is fixed in nssbackup 0.3.x. However, no updated packages are 
available for Ubuntu 8.04, 9.04, 9.10

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[Nssbackup-team] [Fwd: Re: Logarithmic purge disabled]

2010-08-23 Thread Jean-Peer Lorenz
 Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
Von: Jean-Peer Lorenz peer@gmx.net
An: Anton Feenstra feens...@few.vu.nl
Betreff: Re: Logarithmic purge disabled
Datum: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:54:16 +0200

Good morning Anton,

Thank you for looking into SBackup and your bug tracking. Another
maintainer able to fix minor flaws would be great. Software maintenance
is really time consuming.

I'm sorry to tell you, that I've already fixed the purge issue. I'll
prepare an updated release within the next days. I've re-implemented it
similar to the simple purge: only freestanding snapshots are removed and
the removal process is repeated until no freestanding snapshot or at
least 1 snapshot remain (within a certain period).

The more I think about rebasing of snapshots, the more I dislike the
whole idea. It is always dangerous to modify backuped data, even more if
it stored in 'foreign' formats (here tar). Moreover, the current
implementation of writing TAR snapshot files (snar files) contains
errors and updating tarballs in only possible for uncompressed tars. So,
I consider to cut rebasing completely. But that's another story...

 I don't get why it becomes so expensive?
Because of the current implementation. Each path that is processed is
compared to every stored path in sequential manner.



Regards,
Jean-Peer



Am Montag, den 23.08.2010, 09:37 +0200 schrieb Anton Feenstra:
 Hi Jean-Peer,
 
 I'm considering what  how to implement. It seems the rebase operations, 
 although a nice idea, quickly become too costly.
 
 As an alternative, I'm considering changing the purge logic to purge 
 incremental snapshots only when their base (full) snapshot is scheduled 
 to purge as well. This is the easy part. More tricky is that we do not 
 want to purge a full (base) snapshot when any of its incremental (child) 
 snapshots should be retained (though I'm not sure when exactly this 
 condition could apply). I'm thinking now on how to implement this (will 
 come back on that).
 
 I think it would be best to add a config option for this, like:
 - purge incremental snapshots individually by re-basing (may be slow)
 *or*
 - purge incremental shapshots together with their base (full) snapshot
 
 As a sidenote, I think I understand the basic logic of the rebasing, 
 however I don't get why it becomes so expensive?
 




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Re: [Nssbackup-team] [Fwd: Re: Logarithmic purge disabled]

2010-08-23 Thread Anton Feenstra

On 23/08/10 10:55, Jean-Peer Lorenz wrote:

 Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
Von: Jean-Peer Lorenzpeer@gmx.net
An: Anton Feenstrafeens...@few.vu.nl
Betreff: Re: Logarithmic purge disabled
Datum: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:54:16 +0200

Good morning Anton,

Thank you for looking into SBackup and your bug tracking. Another
maintainer able to fix minor flaws would be great. Software maintenance
is really time consuming.


You're welcome!


I'm sorry to tell you, that I've already fixed the purge issue. I'll
prepare an updated release within the next days. I've re-implemented it
similar to the simple purge: only freestanding snapshots are removed and
the removal process is repeated until no freestanding snapshot or at
least 1 snapshot remain (within a certain period).


Great to have this fixed, as this was keeping me back from using nssbackup.

Basically, this is now again the old sbackup behaviour, is that right?


The more I think about rebasing of snapshots, the more I dislike the
whole idea. It is always dangerous to modify backuped data, even more if
it stored in 'foreign' formats (here tar). Moreover, the current
implementation of writing TAR snapshot files (snar files) contains
errors and updating tarballs in only possible for uncompressed tars. So,
I consider to cut rebasing completely. But that's another story...


Yes, that was also my feeling when this rebasing was discussed on the 
nssbackup-team.




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[Nssbackup-team] [Bug 587911] Re: Logarithmic purge disabled/does not work

2010-08-23 Thread Jean-Peer Lorenz
** Summary changed:

- Logarithmic purge disabled in final release 0.2
+ Logarithmic purge disabled/does not work

** Also affects: nssbackup/0.2
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: nssbackup/0.3
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: nssbackup/devel
   Importance: High
 Assignee: Jean-Peer Lorenz (peer.loz)
   Status: In Progress

** Changed in: nssbackup/devel
   Status: In Progress = Confirmed

** Changed in: nssbackup/0.2
   Status: New = Won't Fix

** Changed in: nssbackup/0.3
   Status: New = In Progress

** Changed in: nssbackup/devel
   Importance: High = Low

** Changed in: nssbackup/0.3
   Importance: Undecided = Low

** Changed in: nssbackup/0.3
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Jean-Peer Lorenz (peer.loz)

** Also affects: sbackup
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: sbackup/0.11
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: sbackup/trunk
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: sbackup/0.11
   Status: New = Confirmed

** Changed in: sbackup/trunk
   Status: New = Confirmed

** Changed in: sbackup/0.11
   Importance: Undecided = Low

** Changed in: sbackup/trunk
   Importance: Undecided = Low

** Changed in: sbackup/0.11
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Jean-Peer Lorenz (peer.loz)

** Changed in: sbackup/trunk
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Jean-Peer Lorenz (peer.loz)

** Changed in: sbackup/0.11
   Status: Confirmed = Fix Committed

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