Re: [NTG-context] Two questions about \subject vs \section

2004-02-10 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am Dienstag, 10.02.04, um 13:03 Uhr (Europe/Zurich) schrieb Duncan 
Hothersall:
I have a series of documents which use \section to create a numbered 
heading and \subject to create an unnumbered one. I would like the 
unnumbered headings (the \subjects) to do put the titles in the 
running heads and in the tables of contents, like the \sections do. I 
have experimented with \setuphead but can't see how this can be done?
You could use \section for everything and set it up to hide numbers...
(If you need both, just make a clone of section.)
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Re: [NTG-context] load order?

2004-02-10 Thread Hans Hagen
At 12:35 10/02/2004, you wrote:

\doifmode {atl} {\LocalSetup[interaction,sansheadings]}

Where should I put it?
normally, in your cont-sys.tex, or, in cont-sys.tex load a file with your 
local preferences

an alternative is:

  \prependtoks \readfile{myfile}{}{} \to \everystarttext

in cont-sys.tex and put your settings in myfile

Hans



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[NTG-context] Two questions about \subject vs \section

2004-02-10 Thread Duncan Hothersall
Hello all.

I have a series of documents which use \section to create a numbered 
heading and \subject to create an unnumbered one. I would like the 
unnumbered headings (the \subjects) to do put the titles in the running 
heads and in the tables of contents, like the \sections do. I have 
experimented with \setuphead but can't see how this can be done?

A related question which might help me answer the first - where would I 
find the default settings for things like \chapter and \subject, so that 
I can see how they are originally set up and therefore how to make them 
behave differently? The tex/context/base/*.tex files don't seem to 
contain \definehead commands for these, so I assume they must be done in 
a different way internally?

Thanks for any help.

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[NTG-context] load order?

2004-02-10 Thread Adam Lindsay
Hi.
Who's familiar with initialisation file loading order?

I define some generic formatting options in cont-loc (because it's loaded
by default, it doesn't get overwritten, and I use it on several
machines). I successfully use them by adding a command at the start of
tex source files.

I'd like them to be choose-able for any file from the command line with
(I presume) a mode.
I've tried this in cont-loc and cont-sys, but it doesn't have an effect.  

\doifmode {atl} {\LocalSetup[interaction,sansheadings]}

Where should I put it?
Is it maybe a grouping issue?
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[NTG-context] can TeX do That?

2004-02-10 Thread Adam Lindsay
As a follow-up to yesterday's question from an ex-FrameMaker user,
William Adams posted the following response to Hans's response:

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Can Tex do That?
From: "William F. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 11:15:07 -0500

I've been very busy at work lately (but finally finding (some) time to 
work on TUG2003 and my paper ;)

The answers received here and on TeXHaX are quite good though, so I 
didn't feel (too) guilty about not answering.

Did want to comment on this:

On Monday, February 9, 2004, at 10:41  AM, Adam Lindsay quoted Hans 
Hagen saying:

> - i still have to find something that cannot be done in tex (apart from
> page by page made up documents but that's a different game anyway)

Actually, when automated layout styles break down here or simply won't 
raise up to the customer's quality expectation here at work, doing such 
on a case-by-case, page-by-page basis is the raison-detre (sorry, not 
sure 'bout the funny French accents ;) for my employment here.

Doing such manually / by hand in TeX is the first line of defence and 
is usually where things are held at (picking spreads to run long / 
short is a good example as is forcing float placement), but at need 
we'll fall back on tweaking things w/ Enfocus PitStop or (re)creating a 
section in FreeHand or Illustrator. This is usually done in the final 
moments of a project when time is tight and there's no payoff for doing 
things programmatically (most of our books are one-offs and the 
designer was _not_ paid extra for series use)

A question I've not seen asked is, did you trouble to tag your 
documents w/ SGML? If so, you're a good ways toward re-use / switching 
to a formatting engine like TeX.

If not, what's your budget? My suggestion would be to set up LaTeX 
documentclass packages for all the documents which you create, then use 
LyX for editing all of your text source (and rtf2latex to pull in Word 
.docs from the un-washed masses), w/ a .layout file for LyX which calls 
your documentclasses, things should, ``just work'' at that point except 
for the odd special case which will require manual tweaking (can be 
done as ERT (evil red text --- raw LaTeX code) inserted into the text).

There was a very nice presentation at TUG2003 on doing this sort of 
switch, but the company bought the code and it wasn't released.

Can't resist pointing out though that John Warnock swore up and down 
that for so long as he was in charge at Adobe after their purchase of 
Frame Corp. Adobe would do FrameMaker (nominally he's not in charge of 
day-to-day operations these days).

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