[NTG-context] Possible bug in texexec
Dan Luecking has reported the following problem on c.t.t.: When mptopdf is used on a .mp file it preprocesses the file and the result (on my system it seems always to be named mptrace.tmp) is run through mpost. This mptrace.tmp has new-lines after every semicolon (;). This causes an error when the semicolon is part of a literal string, because mpost syntax requires such strings to be entirely on one line. I mentioned also texexec, because mptopdf seems to call texexec for some purposes. I know too little perl to even know what to look for, much less propose a patch. This behavior has been confirmed under WinXP (fptex = TeXLive8) and Mac OS X (tetex). This particular problem can affect the latest mfpic (0.7, which I maintain) if a user processes mfpic's .mp output file with mptopdf. Users can work around the bug by modifying their copy of mfpic.tex, changing the line GBmsg "Bad mfpic installation; mfpic and grafbase % to something like GBmsg "Bad mfpic installation: mfpic and grafbase % This change will be provided as patch to mfpic shortly. -- Morten Høgholm ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt and the blind
At 17:32 15/04/2004, you wrote: There is a utility called untex, that strips LaTeX formating from a tex file. I didn't test it with ConTeXt, but it may work too. If you can produce a dvi file, there is couple of programs: dvi2tty and catdvi that can extract text from a dvi file, Finally, pdftotext, which I believe is a part of the xpdf package, can extract text from many pdf files. Finally, there is a program called tex2page, that convert TeX to html. Unlike latex2html, it can handle at least some plain TeX, so it may be possible to use it on ConTeXt files. Again, I didn't try it. If you want to experiment with it, it is at http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/dorai/tex2page/tex2page-doc.html since most context commands are instances of more generic ones, you can define another style to process the file to something suited for blind, say: \setuphead[chapter][style=normal] but that could be a lot of work. More simple is to use pdftotext which works ok for most cases, \setuplayout[header=0pt,footer=0pt] \setupcolumns[n=1] is then probably enough btw, there are ways to get auditive info in the pdf file, for instance let the voice engine speak and so Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] vim syntax file for ConTeXt
John Culleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I just use the generic TeX syntax file. It works well > enough to satisfy me. I have programmed the F5 key to wite > out the current file and texexec a file called "book.tex." > F3 fires up Xpdf for "book.pdf." As you may know Xpdf can > update on the fly when the file being viewed is changed > without losing the page location. this combination gives me > semi-wsywig without ever leaving Gvim. Today I got a reply on comp.text.tex that there was some context.vim file circulating around in the past. Are you aware of it? It would be nice to take more advantage of vim capabilities, isn't it? Sincerely, Gour -- Gour [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #278493 ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Re: request for help with suffix arrays
Message: 11 From: "vinuth madinur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 11:40:27 +0800 Subject: [NTG-context] Re: help required w.r.t " vardef " Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Hans! That wolud help me a lot.Also thanks for the reference u mentioned.I'll try it. Now one last thing : Is there a way of having variable arrays whose contents can be used as "suffixes"? something like , a[0]:= "A" ; a[1]:= "B" ; a[2]:= "C" ; %a variable array "a[]" there are other three "pair" variables : T.A,T.B,T.C; so now I want to have , i := 0; T.a[i] = blahblah(); so here I want to use the contents of "a[]" as suffix of variable " T " . I don't know what kind of data type to use for "a[]". I tried a[] as string type and used it with forsuffixes $=a[0],a[1],a[2]: . endfor; but this does not work. So, can u please help me out here? thanx in advance. Vinuth. -- __ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze You could use 'scantokens': string a[]; a 1 := "A"; a 2 := "B"; a 3 := "C"; T A := 11; T B := 12; T C := 13; for i = 1 upto 3: show (T scantokens a [i]); endfor; end This produces the output >>11 >>12 >>13 The idea is to store the suffixes as strings, and then use 'scantokens' to extract them. Best wishes, Jonathan --- Jonathan Nicholl Department of Philosophy King's College London ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Generalized \installcompoundcharacter
Aha. Now I get it. I withdraw my comment, and wait for more expert opinion. -Gary - Original Message - From: "Matija Pretnar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Maybe I gave a bad example. > Try this one. > http://www.pretnar.info/compare.pdf > > On 15. apr 2004, at 16:38, Gary Pajer wrote: > > >> With the advent of UTF-8, there comes a great possibility to improve > >> readability of the TeX code. > >> For example: instead of \int_a^b, you could write S_a^b, where S is > >> the > >> character for integral. > > > > IMHO, this is less readable. > > ___ > > ntg-context mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > > > > ___ > ntg-context mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt and the blind
On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 04:50:04PM -0400, Alan Bowen wrote: > So, does anyone on the list have ideas about how to produce such files > from the files I currently have in hand or any experience with this > sort of problem? Is there, for instance, a way to strip away all the > formatting commands from a ConTeXt source file automatically so as to > leave an unencoded .txt file that I could send him? I gather that he > can use .htm files, but so far as I can tell there is no path from a > ConTeXt source file to an HTML file?at least, a specific query about > this made recently on this list by someone else seems to have gone > unanswered. There is a utility called untex, that strips LaTeX formating from a tex file. I didn't test it with ConTeXt, but it may work too. If you can produce a dvi file, there is couple of programs: dvi2tty and catdvi that can extract text from a dvi file, Finally, pdftotext, which I believe is a part of the xpdf package, can extract text from many pdf files. Finally, there is a program called tex2page, that convert TeX to html. Unlike latex2html, it can handle at least some plain TeX, so it may be possible to use it on ConTeXt files. Again, I didn't try it. If you want to experiment with it, it is at http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/dorai/tex2page/tex2page-doc.html -- Jan Hlavacek(260) 434-7566 Department of Mathematics [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Saint Francis http://www.sf.edu/jhlavacek/ ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Generalized \installcompoundcharacter
Maybe I gave a bad example. Try this one. http://www.pretnar.info/compare.pdf On 15. apr 2004, at 16:38, Gary Pajer wrote: With the advent of UTF-8, there comes a great possibility to improve readability of the TeX code. For example: instead of \int_a^b, you could write S_a^b, where S is the character for integral. IMHO, this is less readable. ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Generalized \installcompoundcharacter
> With the advent of UTF-8, there comes a great possibility to improve > readability of the TeX code. > For example: instead of \int_a^b, you could write S_a^b, where S is the > character for integral. IMHO, this is less readable. ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Generalized \installcompoundcharacter
With the advent of UTF-8, there comes a great possibility to improve
readability of the TeX code.
For example: instead of \int_a^b, you could write S_a^b, where S is the
character for integral. Or greek letters and any other math symbol
imaginable.
I tried using \installcompoundcharacter S {\int} and similar commands
and all the characters show up nicely, but the spacing is all wrong,
because they are interpreted as variables instead of operations,
relations, ...
I think this replacement would be easy to implement (if it isn't
already implemented), because with math symbols, you don't have to
worry about hyphenation. You could simply replace the characters with
corresponding command before sending it to TeX. I already made some
kind of python script that does that, but for each file separately. And
with many files, you have to preprocess each one individually, which
sums up to another shell script and many temporary files.
Cheers, Matija
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt and the blind
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 10:00:12 -0400 Alan Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you very much for the suggestions. I will explore pdftotext and > the Acrobat _Save As_ options. Another issue with these methods is that the header and footer information on each page will be included, which could be irritating or helpful, depending on the application. > One of the problems for all_and perhaps > it is insuperable_is the ability of such reading software to present > phrases in foreign languages and mathematical expressions. I haven't done any XML writing, but I think that would be the superior approach. If special elements of the text are tagged, then they could be translated appropriately for the blind reader. I use a text-to-speech program for proofing some of my documents and have found it helpful to filter the original text and emit a coded version which makes it easy for the speech program to read, and easier for me to understand. I'll have it say "quote", "endquote", "italics", etc. I'm working from the Context source directly, but XML sources could be used similarly, and there are lots of XML tools in the world. -Bill -- Sattre Press History of Astronomy http://sattre-press.com/ During the 19th Century [EMAIL PROTECTED] by Agnes M. Clerke http://sattre-press.com/han.html ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt and the blind
Bill, Erik, and Matthew— Thank you very much for the suggestions. I will explore pdftotext and the Acrobat “Save As” options. One of the problems for all—and perhaps it is insuperable—is the ability of such reading software to present phrases in foreign languages and mathematical expressions. I will report to you at least on what I discover. Best, Alan On Apr 14, 2004, at 7:44 PM, Matthew Huggett wrote: You'd have to do it a file at a time, but does the Acrobat Reader's "save as text" function do what you need? A much bigger solution would be to have your source as xml and then go from there to ConTeXt and pdf or straight to plain text via XSLT. Matt Alan Bowen wrote: I have very recently launched a new journal which has been designed on the assumption that it will exist in both electronic form and in print—hence, it is produced using ConTeXt and exists natively in PDF files. This morning I was asked by a colleague who is totally blind whether it would be possible to for him have ASCII or .txt files that he could use easily with his screen reading software. (My sense is that he may be able to use PDF files with this software, but that it is not easy.) So, does anyone on the list have ideas about how to produce such files from the files I currently have in hand or any experience with this sort of problem? Is there, for instance, a way to strip away all the formatting commands from a ConTeXt source file automatically so as to leave an unencoded .txt file that I could send him? I gather that he can use .htm files, but so far as I can tell there is no path from a ConTeXt source file to an HTML file—at least, a specific query about this made recently on this list by someone else seems to have gone unanswered. Cheers, Alan ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
