Re: [NTG-context] Re: Metapost animation

2004-09-14 Thread Michal Kvasnicka
Good morning.
Thanks for your answers.
Well, I'm searching for automatic steps. (I know that manual steps are 
covered in the widgets manual.) And even for more funny stuff, like 
curves that appear `per partes', or curves thats slide from somewhere to 
their final location.

You need automatic steps? If not, take a look at 
http://dl.contextgarden.net/examples/euro-anim/euro-anim.pdf

 

As for your example, I don't understand it. It does work under Windoze 
with Acrobat 4.0 and Acrobat Reader 5.0, but not under Linux with 
Acrobat Reader 5.x. The same was true with Mr. Hagen's clock example. 
Why is it so? Can you send me your source? I'd like to compile it myself 
and see whether it would work, or not. Have you any explanation for that?

Well, my more questions I will rahter cover under another subject. :-)
Many thanks and greetings anyway.
M.K.
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[NTG-context] Problems with Acrobat Reader, animation, sound, JavaScript etc.

2004-09-14 Thread Michal Kvasnicka
Good morning.
I'd like to ask a little off-topic questions but closely related to 
ConTeXt.  I'm sorry I bother you with this, but I need it. My interest 
is not purely academic. I'd like to prepare fully interactive documents 
for my students to work with at home and prepare to my classes.

My questions are like this: Theoretically, PDF can contain sound, movie, 
and JavaScript.
1) In practise, the movie plugin I have found only in the Acrobat Reader 
5.x under Windoze; in Linux and in Adobe Reader 6.0 under Windoze it was 
not present. Can I download it somewhere?
2) What are limits of QuickTime JPeg in the PDF? It worked with a movie 
included in the QuickTime viewer under Windoze, but not with a movie 
from my digital camera (Olympus C730UZ). How can I convert it (for free)?
3) How can I include sounds to my PDF? Does it work with all Readers 
under all platforms, or not? What do I need to install?
4) Some JavaScripts work only under Windoze, not under Linux. Why? How 
can I fix that? Mr. Hagen's clock example, and Mr. Gundlach euro-anim 
example are just two cases.
5) Does Adobe still support Linux? There is a reader version 6.0 for 
Windoze, but only 5.0.9 for Linux.
6) If I want to learn how to use JavaScript in the ConTeXt, what Adobe 
document should I read first? Is somewhere explained to integrate it in 
the ConTeXt (more that the widgets manual)?

Many thanks for any hint. I apologize one more for this slightly 
off-topic questions.
M.K.

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[NTG-context] Re: Metapost animation

2004-09-14 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hello Michal,

[...]

 As for your example, I don't understand it. It does work under Windoze
 with Acrobat 4.0 and Acrobat Reader 5.0, but not under Linux with
 Acrobat Reader 5.x. 

That is Acrobat Reader. :-( Accept it as a fact that you need to do
your JS for a specific version of Adobe Reader.


 Can you send me your source? I'd like to compile it myself and see
 whether it would work, or not. 

It is up at 
http://dl.contextgarden.net/examples/euro-anim/euro-anim.tex

 Have you any explanation for that?

None at all.

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[NTG-context] Re: Problems with Acrobat Reader, animation, sound, JavaScript etc.

2004-09-14 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hello again,


 6) If I want to learn how to use JavaScript in the ConTeXt, what Adobe
document should I read first? Is somewhere explained to integrate
it in the ConTeXt (more that the widgets manual)?

If you are looking for an adobe document, search for 

Technical Note #5431
Acrobat JavaScript Scripting Reference


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Re: [NTG-context] Re: externalfigure

2004-09-14 Thread Hans Hagen
Patrick Gundlach wrote:
[...]
 

So I thing the case should work as expected. Could you send
complete-and-minimal example?
   

\starttext
\startMPcode
externalfigure hacker.jpg scaled 300;
\stopMPcode
\stoptext
where hacker.jpg is from the official samples.
 

its possible to use the natural size, but i found out that the code that 
i use for that  is not in the distribution (will be in the next zip)

This will create a dimensions file mpfigs.mp: 

\startmode[*first] 
 \executesystemcommand{texexec --fig=d *.jpg} 
\stopmode

\starttext
\startMPcode
input mpfigs.mp ;
naturalfigure(hacker.jpg) ;
\stopMPcode
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] what fonts I have in my systems?

2004-09-14 Thread Hans Hagen
ciro wrote:
Is there a set of commands to know what fonts I have in my
installation of context? and How do I show them all together
without going one by one in the subdirectories...
thank you
there is no program for that
you can play with:
 http://www.ntg.nl:8061/fonttest.pdf
(or: http://www.ntg.nl:8061/exalogin) 

to see what free fonts are in the tex distributions 

Hans 

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Re: [NTG-context] struts in \quotation{..} (was: Help with LaTeX - ConTeXt book typesetting)

2004-09-14 Thread Hans Hagen
Ulrich Dirr wrote:
Patrick Gundlach wrote:
 

Hello Hans and Ulrich,
[...]
   

Woran arbeiten Sie? wurde Herr K. gefragt. Herr K. antwortete:
Ich habe viel Mhe, ich bereite meinen nchsten Irrtum vor. (B.
Brecht) Aber Hallo! \quotation{all right \quote{there} we go}
\stoptext
   

hm, what do other german users experience/think?
 

I experience the same, but I have no idea why the struts are necessary
around \quotation and \quote. When the user needs them he should
insert them hiself. Especially if it is not documented (is it?).
   

And will it harm any kerning pairs that are in the tfms, e.g., 'W'? 
 

i love struts -) 

btw, normally such construtcs use \begstrut and \endstrut which leave kerning untouched 

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Re: [NTG-context] Protruding Utopia italic

2004-09-14 Thread Hans Hagen
Sebastian Sturm wrote:
Sorry for that stupid question. It works great after including the 
line \setupfontsynonym[SerifItalic][handling=italic](or 
[handling=normal]). However, I would have thought that any changes 
made to Serif affected all kinds of serif text, including serif 
italic. In my opinion, it would be a bit more intuitive if Serif was 
named SerifRoman.
you can also use other names, like: 

 \setupfontsynonym [Charter-Roman] ... 

Hans  

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Re: [NTG-context] struts in \quotation{..}

2004-09-14 Thread Hans Hagen
Patrick Gundlach wrote:
Hello Hans and Ulrich,
[...]
 

Woran arbeiten Sie? wurde Herr K. gefragt. Herr K. antwortete:
Ich habe viel Mhe, ich bereite meinen nchsten Irrtum vor. (B.
Brecht) Aber Hallo! \quotation{all right \quote{there} we go}
\stoptext
 

what exactly is the unwanted effect? 

Can you send me a test file? 

(maybe something \dontleavehmode is needed) 

Hans 

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Re: [NTG-context] what fonts I have in my systems?

2004-09-14 Thread Willi Egger
Hi Hans
Hans Hagen wrote:
ciro wrote:
Is there a set of commands to know what fonts I have in my
installation of context? and How do I show them all together
without going one by one in the subdirectories...
thank you

there is no program for that
you can play with:
 http://www.ntg.nl:8061/fonttest.pdf
When klicking the above link using Firefox and IE I get the following error:
Example Server Status
...date info ...
request http:/www.ntg.nl:8061/fonttest.pdf can not be honored
What's up?
Kind regards Willi
(or: http://www.ntg.nl:8061/exalogin)
to see what free fonts are in the tex distributions
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] what fonts I have in my systems?

2004-09-14 Thread Volker RW Schaa
Hi Willi,
 http://www.ntg.nl:8061/fonttest.pdf
When klicking the above link using Firefox and IE I get the following 
error:

Example Server Status
...date info ...
request http:/www.ntg.nl:8061/fonttest.pdf can not be honored
when executing the about link, the file fonttest.pdf you download,
is in reality a html file which contains exactly the above message.
So the error is on the ntg (Hans') side :-)
Cheers,
 Volker
PS: I found that with http:/www.ntg.nl:8061/login you get a login
screen, but then...
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Re: [NTG-context] Re: externalfigure

2004-09-14 Thread Vit Zyka
So I thing the case should work as expected. Could you send
complete-and-minimal example?

\starttext
\startMPcode
externalfigure hacker.jpg scaled 300;
\stopMPcode
\stoptext
It seems to me the behaviour is perhaps not intuitive but correct. I try 
to explain:

Imagine externalfigure without scaling:
  externalfigure hacker.jpg;
What we will obtain? One can imagine the image in its natural size. That 
 is not the case. We obtain the image of the size 1pt x 1pt. I thing 
there are two reasons for that:
1) Analogy. Imagine this example:
 draw origin--(1,0)--(1,1)--(0,1)--cycle;
   it is exactly the same as
 draw origin--(1pt,0)--(1pt,1pt)--(0,1pt)--cycle;
   and it is abbreviated to
 draw unitsquare;
   and im most cases it is used with scaling
 draw unitsquare xscaled 2cm yscaled 1cm;
   since
 scaled X = xscaled X yscaled X
   then
 unitsquare scaled 2cm
   is still square.

   If you do not specify the unit, the pt is deduced.
   So there is an analogy:
 unitfigure 1pt x 1pt = externalfigure file
2) Technician. The scaling dimensions are calculated by TeX engine.
   It is done by tricks in pt units, so image 1pt x 1pt simplifies
   the calculations.
If you want to use a bitmap in ConTeXt MP environment in its natural 
size, I suggest to precalculate (according to Hans macro \MPfigure) its 
dimmensions:

% 
\def\getMPfiguresize#1{%
   \getfiguredimensionsonly[#1]%
   \freezedimenmacro\naturalfigurewidth
   \freezedimenmacro\naturalfigureheight
}
\def\naturalMPfigure#1{%
  externalfigure #1
xscaled \naturalfigurewidth\space
yscaled \naturalfigureheight\space
}
\starttext
\getMPfiguresize{hacker.jpg}
\startMPcode
  \naturalMPfigure{hacker.jpg} ; % space in front of ; is important!!
\stopMPcode
\startMPcode
  \naturalMPfigure{hacker.jpg} scaled 2 slanted .3;
\stopMPcode
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] \dh in ConTeXt

2004-09-14 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Hi Charles,

Try this:

  Howth  {\em H\k{o}f\eth i} / {\em H\k{o}f\eth a},

(LaTeX 'dh' = [eE]th, 'th'= [tT]horn, 'ng' = [eE]ng)

Greetings, Taco

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:18:29 +0100
Charles Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear all,
 
 Using the following input in LaTeX I could get the output below. But 
 try as I might I cannot achieve this in ConTeXt.
 \documentclass[12pt,a4paper]{article}
 \usepackage{palatino}
 \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
 \usepackage[applemac]{inputenc}
 
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[NTG-context] right aligned section?

2004-09-14 Thread Plamen Tanovski
Hi,

sorry for this actually simple question, but I don't get it.

\setuphead[section][align=right]
\starttext
\section[testref]{test test}
\stoptext

The section remains left aligned. How can I make it right alignend?
I've tried several examples, but the section remains always at the left.

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Re: [NTG-context] Problems with Acrobat Reader, animation, sound, JavaScript etc.

2004-09-14 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 14.09.2004 um 10:41 schrieb Michal Kvasnicka:
1) In practise, the movie plugin I have found only in the Acrobat 
Reader 5.x under Windoze; in Linux and in Adobe Reader 6.0 under 
Windoze it was not present. Can I download it somewhere?
On MacOS it depends from QuickTime, on Windows I don't know (perhaps 
try QuickTime).
On Linux I don't know either, probably it depends from the installed 
multimedia extensions (isn't there also QuickTime for Linux?).

2) What are limits of QuickTime JPeg in the PDF? It worked with a 
movie included in the QuickTime viewer under Windoze, but not with a 
movie from my digital camera (Olympus C730UZ). How can I convert it 
(for free)?
Perhaps look for QuickTime docs at Apple.
3) How can I include sounds to my PDF? Does it work with all Readers 
under all platforms, or not? What do I need to install?
You can't include them, you can only link to them (as like movies); I 
heard you could include media files since PDF 1.5 (Acrobat 6), but 
never tried.
AFAIK all multimedia extensions work only with Acrobat (Reader) and not 
with any other PDF viewer.

4) Some JavaScripts work only under Windoze, not under Linux. Why? How 
can I fix that? Mr. Hagen's clock example, and Mr. Gundlach euro-anim 
example are just two cases.
Adobe changed Acrobat's JavaScript implementation several times. And it 
has/had different bugs/features in every edition.
Acrobat 4 e.g. had a wrong or undefined state of some variables at 
startup...
Some things are rather strange: I tried to access user's settings (like 
measure unit), but that's not possible, at least in Acrobat 5.

5) Does Adobe still support Linux? There is a reader version 6.0 for 
Windoze, but only 5.0.9 for Linux.
5.0.9 is rather new and fixes some bugs of previous versions (on Mac 
and Win there was only 5.0.5),
but they don't seem to plan an Adobe Reader 6 for Linux.
But there is a Distiller 6 Server for Linux. I guess they see Linux 
mainly as a server platform.

6) If I want to learn how to use JavaScript in the ConTeXt, what Adobe 
document should I read first? Is somewhere explained to integrate it 
in the ConTeXt (more that the widgets manual)?
There's no document I know of that gives a good introduction into 
JavaScript for Acrobat. You should know JavaScript for Web to 
understand Adobe's docs.
I started writing some simple extensions for Acrobat 5 some weeks ago 
and didn't find much what I could use.
Perhaps look at these:
http://partners.adobe.com/asn/acrobat/docs.jsp#javascript
http://partners.adobe.com/asn/webseminars/archive.jsp
http://www.planetpdf.com
http://www.pdfzone.com

(Sorry, I will be off from tomorrow to end of September.)
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Re: [NTG-context] right aligned section?

2004-09-14 Thread Taco Hoekwater
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 13:49:24 +0200, Plamen wrote:

 Hi,
 
 sorry for this actually simple question, but I don't get it.
 
 \setuphead[section][align=right]

Try:
 \setuphead[section][align=left]

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Re: [NTG-context] PPCHTeX Bug?

2004-09-14 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 14.09.2004 um 11:17 schrieb Hans Hagen:
On TeX-D-L (german ML) was last week a dicussion about a PPCHTeX bug
(at least with LaTeX), it seems that the file ppchtex.tex lost its 
tail (ca. 3kB).
I told the user to ask at the PPCHTeX Mailing list, but he only got a 
message,
that the list was moderated.
what tail?
Sorry, I don't like to moderate between TeX-D-L and here (and will be 
off from tomorrow to end of September)...
CC to Thomas Meyer: Please care for yourself now.

Thomas Meyer wrote, some PPCHTeX code wouldn't work, the error message 
was:
ppchtex.tex:3390: undefined control sequence
He uses an actual MikTeX (again, only problems with this, we should 
mark it red in the wiki...)
His file ppchtex.tex ends like:

\def\cpos#1#2%
  {\iftrialtypesetting
 #2%
   \else
 \bgroup
 \globalpushmacro\dowithchemical
3390
 
\gdef\dowithchemical##1{\hpos{#1}{##1}\globalpopmacro\dowithchemical}%
 #2%
 \egroup
  \fi}

\fi
\protect \endinput
Tobias Hilbricht answered, the code would work with his ppchtex.tex 
version from TeX Live 2003,
there line 3390 (second line from the end) had only a lonely \fi, but 
the file is 3kB bigger,
but both show the same date of 1997-03-19 (I guess this date is only 
the creation date and not
altered at changes, isn't it?)

With Tobias' file it worked at Thomas.
Thomas downloaded the file from pragma-ade.nl, and it doesn't work 
again.

I told him to ask at the PPCHTeX list, see above.
Further Thomas wanted to draw seven-rings, and that seems not supported 
by PPCHTeX.

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Re: [NTG-context] right aligned section?

2004-09-14 Thread Plamen Tanovski
Taco Hoekwater wrote:

 Try:
\setuphead[section][align=left]

Thank you so much. Silly me, didn't try that option before :(

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Re: [NTG-context] what fonts I have in my systems?

2004-09-14 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 14.09.2004 um 12:59 schrieb Volker RW Schaa:
when executing the about link, the file fonttest.pdf you download,
is in reality a html file which contains exactly the above message.
No, but you need a properly installed PDF browser plugin.
(On a Mac I can see the pdf, but the simple PDF plugin by SchubertIT 
can't handle links.)

So the error is on the ntg (Hans') side :-)
I don't think so, besides trusting in PDF interfaces at all.
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Re: [NTG-context] Problems with Acrobat Reader, animation, sound, JavaScript etc.

2004-09-14 Thread Vit Zyka
3) How can I include sounds to my PDF? Does it work with all Readers 
under all platforms, or not? What do I need to install?
You can't include them, you can only link to them (as like movies); I 
heard you could include media files since PDF 1.5 (Acrobat 6), but never 
tried.
I include sound annotations into the PDF file. It worked even with PDF 
1.4 (AR 5). The macros are described in the Czech TeX Bulletin 2/2002
(http://bulletin.cstug.cz/pdf/bul_022.pdf); unfortunately only in Czech 
language. But macro language is international ;-)
Only article is here
ftp://cmp.felk.cvut.cz/pub/cmp/users/zyka/publ/tex/bul/pdf-3/sound-bul.pdf
All needed files are here
ftp://cmp.felk.cvut.cz/pub/cmp/users/zyka/publ/tex/bul/pdf-3/birds.zip

According to PDF Spec 1.4 (and newer) it should be possible even vith 
wideo annotations. But I was not successful to do it. I suspected that 
annotation plug-in does not fullfil all kind PDF Spec (e.g. Embeded file 
specification, URL - not local specification).

Multimedia support in AR for Win is slowly increasing. For Linux there 
is no support for video/sound annotations yet. I do not use Mac but I 
think the situation is similar to Win.

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Re: [NTG-context] what fonts I have in my systems?

2004-09-14 Thread Hans Hagen
Volker RW Schaa wrote:
Hi Willi,
 http://www.ntg.nl:8061/fonttest.pdf
When klicking the above link using Firefox and IE I get the following 
error:

Example Server Status
...date info ...
request http:/www.ntg.nl:8061/fonttest.pdf can not be honored

when executing the about link, the file fonttest.pdf you download,
is in reality a html file which contains exactly the above message.
So the error is on the ntg (Hans') side :-)
well, more in my head -) that direct link only works when one is logged in
Cheers,
 Volker
PS: I found that with http:/www.ntg.nl:8061/login you get a login
screen, but then...
indeed, then ... just click 'submit' and you will get the default interface (the 4 values are used in more complex situations) 

 http:/www.ntg.nl:8061/exalogin
is the fast link, and after that click on fonttest 

Hans 

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Re: [NTG-context] Re: struts in \quotation{..}

2004-09-14 Thread Hans Hagen
Patrick Gundlach wrote:
Hello Hans,
 

what exactly is the unwanted effect? 
   

struts inserted before quotation marks that prevent kerning(?).
 

Can you send me a test file? 
   

--
\mainlanguage[de]
% same effect with:
%
% \setuplanguage
% [de]
% [leftquote=\rightsubguillemot,
%  leftquotation=\rightguillemot,
%  rightquote=\leftsubguillemot,
%  rightquotation=\leftguillemot]
\starttext
\showstruts
\input aesop-de
\stoptext
 

but ... what is wrong with that? 

Hans 

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Re: [NTG-context] what fonts I have in my systems?

2004-09-14 Thread Hans Hagen
Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
Am 14.09.2004 um 12:59 schrieb Volker RW Schaa:
when executing the about link, the file fonttest.pdf you download,
is in reality a html file which contains exactly the above message.

No, but you need a properly installed PDF browser plugin.
(On a Mac I can see the pdf, but the simple PDF plugin by SchubertIT 
can't handle links.)

So the error is on the ntg (Hans') side :-)

I don't think so, besides trusting in PDF interfaces at all.
in due time i will provide an html interface as well 

Hans 

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Re: [NTG-context] Metapost animation

2004-09-14 Thread Hans Hagen
Michal Kvasnicka wrote:
Now to my next question. I have seen a great thing: Metapost pictures 
were animated (probably with the JavaScript code). You can found some 
examples here:
   http://www.math.muni.cz/~plch/nkpm/nradanm6.pdf
   http://www.math.muni.cz/~plch/nkpm/nradanm8.pdf
(Just click on the `Spustit animaci' button.)
it's in the metafun manual 

that kind of trickery has been present in context for a long time, but unfortunately it's not always available on each platform 

(apart from the fact that each version of acrobat has its own side effects) 

Hans 

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[NTG-context] Re: struts in \quotation{..}

2004-09-14 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hi,

[...]

 but ... what is wrong with that? 

The question is, do the struts affect the typesetting (kerning)?

Patrick
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Re: [NTG-context] what fonts I have in my systems?

2004-09-14 Thread Willi Egger
Hi Hans et al.
Aha, some times big steps won't bring you home earlier as the Dutch 
say. Indeed with the http:/www.ntg.nl:8061/exalogin everything work 
fine! - Playing with this tool is fun and allows experimenting in an 
easy way. Thanks Hans.

Willi

Hans Hagen wrote:
Volker RW Schaa wrote:
Hi Willi,
 http://www.ntg.nl:8061/fonttest.pdf
When klicking the above link using Firefox and IE I get the following 
error:

Example Server Status
...date info ...
request http:/www.ntg.nl:8061/fonttest.pdf can not be honored

when executing the about link, the file fonttest.pdf you download,
is in reality a html file which contains exactly the above message.
So the error is on the ntg (Hans') side :-)

well, more in my head -) that direct link only works when one is logged in
Cheers,
 Volker
PS: I found that with http:/www.ntg.nl:8061/login you get a login
screen, but then...

indeed, then ... just click 'submit' and you will get the default 
interface (the 4 values are used in more complex situations)
 http:/www.ntg.nl:8061/exalogin

is the fast link, and after that click on fonttest
Hans
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[NTG-context] marks in columns

2004-09-14 Thread Plamen Tanovski
Hi,

is there a way to get the marks set in columns? With

\setupfootertexts[{\getmarking[section][first] \getmarking[section][last]}]
\starttext
\startcolumns[n=2]
\section{first}

\column

\section{last}
\stopcolumns
\stoptext

I get only the last mark, even if I comment the \column out. 

If there is no possibility, can I write the marks to a file for
postprocessing?

Best regards,
P.

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