Re: [NTG-context] Bookmark question

2008-02-06 Thread Taco Hoekwater
WN wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> When I use \bookmark[chapter]{Some bookmark} the bookmark appears twice 
> in the list of bookmarks
> but the bookmark also appears twice in the Table of Contents.

I think chapter titles are supposed appear automatically in the
bookmarks, no need for an explicit \bookmark.

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Unicode greek in Context

2008-02-06 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
Hi Vassilis,

short answer because I'm on the run right now: you could either try to  
typeset your example with ConTeXt + XeTeX; this should work "out of  
the box." Or you could try my Greek module (lookn on the contextgarden  
under "third party modules"). It's designed for ancient Greek but  
should work with the modern variety as well. If you want more support  
for typographical conventions of modern Greek, it should be fairly  
easy to implement that yourself. And welcome to ConTeXt!

Thomas

On Feb 5, 2008, at 8:24 PM, Βασίλης Γκολφινόπουλος  
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am evaluating context for using it to write long greek documents.  
> So far I
> have not succeeded in typesetting unicode greek in live-context. I  
> have
> tried scanning the documentation and mailing list archive with no  
> success. I
> must admit I am not a very technical user. This is what I have tried  
> so far
> (unseccessfuly):
>
> \enableregime[utf-8]
> \mainlanguage[gr]
> \starttext
> Hello world!
> Καλημέρα κόσμε!
> \stoptext
>
> Is there something wrong with that? Sorry if I am wasting your time  
> -- if
> there is a good "RTFM" answer I would not mind.
>
> Vassilis
>
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[NTG-context] hash size calculating

2008-02-06 Thread Jan Kraljič
Hi,

i got to the problem that context file compile with PDFtex was not created
because hash size is to big. OK, I increase hash size but my question is
little different.

The problem was on big table whisch was 11 pages long. Now my question is:
is has size calculating over complete document or over element. So it I
create 11 smaller tables there wont be such problem?

Thx,

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Re: [NTG-context] halfline broken

2008-02-06 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Thanks, Peter and Taco!

Am 06.02.2008 um 08:44 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:

> Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>> Since context version: 2008.01.28 up to now there is an error when
>> running the file attached below:
>>
>> ! Undefined control sequence.
>> \dodosetupwhitespace ...g \witruimteflexibelfalse
>>\ctxparskip 1
>
> In the core, the
>\newif \witruimteflexibel
> became
>\newconditional \flexiblewhitespace
>
> so the get the same effect as the old \witruimteflexibelfalse
> and \ifwit... you now need \setfalse\flexiblewhitespace and
> \ifconditional\flexiblewhitespace.
>
> As Peter said: see core-spa.tex for details


Interesting lecture ... just, why does the file read:  file=core-spa,  
version=1997.03.31 ?

I hadn't expected changes by this version date.

Steffen

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt book

2008-02-06 Thread Jan Kraljič
Hello,

i think it would be great to have some basic documentation published. My
idea is to create "Basic ConTeXt guide" with start documentation for new
user. This is what should be in:

1. Chapter: What is ConTeXt, what it included, which are basic modules, what
is needed to start with Context, maybe something about instalation

2. Chapter: first document step by step, second document (something like on
contexgarden, maybe little longer step by step)

3. Chapter: my first letter ( how to write little longer document "in
style")

4. Chapter: Formating - quick introduction in text aligment,, fonts (size
and format), tables, how to setup setups page design (mergins...)

5. Chapter: How to create simple presentation

6. Tips and Tricks (maybe some FAQ explained)

Appedix A: Table of math symbols with examples (like sum, matrix...)

Appedix B: Article From Latex to Context
..

Now my question: are we able to create some book like this? And would be
users interested to buy/use it?

Jan


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Re: [NTG-context] halfline broken

2008-02-06 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> Interesting lecture ... just, why does the file read:  file=core-spa,  
> version=1997.03.31 ?

  You shouldn't trust the version statement too much ;-)  The file itself
dates back to January 25th, and diff shows quite a lot of changes with
the version from, say, late December.

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Re: [NTG-context] hash size calculating

2008-02-06 Thread Hans Hagen
Jan Kraljic( wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> i got to the problem that context file compile with PDFtex was not created
> because hash size is to big. OK, I increase hash size but my question is
> little different.
> 
> The problem was on big table whisch was 11 pages long. Now my question is:
> is has size calculating over complete document or over element. So it I
> create 11 smaller tables there wont be such problem?

indeed, table cells + info per cell is stored in variables (i.e. hash 
entries needed)

i could pack 'm but that would be a bit slower (but maybe compensated by 
less mem/hashing)

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Re: [NTG-context] {{ double braces }}

2008-02-06 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Actually I use this to highlight footnotes in my texteditor: colorize  
entire footnotes for for easier reading.

I am quite happy to have (on MacOSX) a text-editor that gives such  
"syntax coloring" flexibility: it is Satoshi Matsumoto's Jedit X. And  
here RegularExpressions are used for that purpose.

If someone knows an editor that does "syntax coloring" with lua or  
gema, I'd be very interested!

Thanks,

Steffen

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Re: [NTG-context] halfline broken

2008-02-06 Thread Hans Hagen
Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>> Since context version: 2008.01.28 up to now there is an error when  
>> running the file attached below:
>>
>> ! Undefined control sequence.
>> \dodosetupwhitespace ...g \witruimteflexibelfalse
>>\ctxparskip 1 
> 
> In the core, the
>   \newif \witruimteflexibel
> became
>   \newconditional \flexiblewhitespace
> 
> so the get the same effect as the old \witruimteflexibelfalse
> and \ifwit... you now need \setfalse\flexiblewhitespace and
> \ifconditional\flexiblewhitespace.
> 
> As Peter said: see core-spa.tex for details
> 
> Best wishes,
> Taco
> 
> PS Hans, the \newconditional itself is actually not there. Wouldn't
>   it be nicer to add it? It would help while grepping through the
>   source.

ok, i now have

\newconditional \flexiblewhitespace \settrue\flexiblewhitespace


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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt book

2008-02-06 Thread PChot
On Feb 6, 2008 10:37 AM, Taco Hoekwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
> Jan Kraljič wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > i think it would be great to have some basic documentation published.
>
> http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/ms-cb-en.pdf (screen )
> http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/mp-cb-en.pdf (paper )
>
> Is not what you had in mind?


Pretty much something like that. (Paper version)

I believe that no one would print this on printer. So I wonder if there
would be interest for published book?

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt book

2008-02-06 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Jan Kraljič wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> i think it would be great to have some basic documentation published. 

http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/ms-cb-en.pdf (screen )
http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/mp-cb-en.pdf (paper )

Is not what you had in mind?

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt book

2008-02-06 Thread Gour
> "PChot" == PChot  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

PChot> I believe that no one would print this on printer. So I wonder if
PChot> there would be interest for published book?

I'd buy a book for sure, but in the meantime printed the above stuff in
local copy-shop and put in spiral binding ;)

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt book

2008-02-06 Thread Otared Kavian

Hi all,

Indeed the documents mentioned by Taco are great, but some time ago  
there was a discussion on the list about an update of those manuals  
(dating from 1999, according to the colofon) and about how we users  
can contribute to the job by finding the possible bugs, errors,  
misprints, etc. But us far as I know we, at least I, didn't do anything…


Now in my opinion the idea of having a book is a good one: for  
instance many of my students when writing reports and theses ask me  
about a book on TeX or LaTeX, even though there are many electronic  
documents about them freely available. Our library has the books by  
Donald Knuth, Leslie Lamport and Raymond Séroul among others, and if  
there were a book about ConTeXt I would certainly order at least two  
for our library and one for myself. For making ConTeXt more popular  
among mathematicians (or other academic users) I think it is good to  
have books about it in libraries, since at first students look for  
books before sticking to one of TeX flavors.


Best regards: OK


On 6 févr. 08, at 10:50, PChot wrote:


On Feb 6, 2008 10:37 AM, Taco Hoekwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Jan Kraljič wrote:
> Hello,
>
> i think it would be great to have some basic documentation  
published.


http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/ms-cb-en.pdf (screen )
http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/mp-cb-en.pdf (paper )

Is not what you had in mind?

Pretty much something like that. (Paper version)

I believe that no one would print this on printer. So I wonder if  
there would be interest for published book?


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Re: [NTG-context] Unicode greek in Context

2008-02-06 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Feb 5, 2008 8:24 PM, Βασίλης Γκολφινόπουλος wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am evaluating context for using it to write long greek documents. So far I
> have not succeeded in typesetting unicode greek in live-context. I have
> tried scanning the documentation and mailing list archive with no success. I
> must admit I am not a very technical user. This is what I have tried so far
> (unseccessfuly):
>
> \enableregime[utf-8]
> \mainlanguage[gr]
> \starttext
> Hello world!
> Καλημέρα κόσμε!
> \stoptext
>
> Is there something wrong with that? Sorry if I am wasting your time -- if
> there is a good "RTFM" answer I would not mind.

ConTeXt Live didn't work because the default font (Latin Modern) has
almost no Greek glyphs present. You need to use another font, but then
again - the garden might be lacking good greek fonts. You shold add at
least

\usetypescript[antykwa-torunska]
\setupbodyfont[antykwa]

and choose XeTeX or LuaTeX.

But then again - I bothered Taco so much about the urge to upload the
latest version of ConTeXt to CTAN, and completely forgot that the
latest LM font release broke the ConTeXt live as well.

ConTeXt live is based on TeX Live 2007 + latest ConTeXt - we will
probably move it to use the "new minimals". In the meantime I will try
to replace the Latin Modern fonts.

The misfunction of live ConTeX should not be the showstopper.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Unicode greek in Context

2008-02-06 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> ConTeXt Live didn't work because the default font (Latin Modern) has
> almost no Greek glyphs present.

  Actually there's more to it, Greek letters seem to be given a weird
treatment: when trying the sample file Vassilis posted, I see vowels
with tonos are rendered as an apostrophe followed by the Latin
equivalent letter (!), and -- except for the capital Kappa -- the other
letters are obviously taken from Latin Modern Math Italic (so the
absence of the glyphs from the roman fonts is not such a problem, but
the result is typographically very poor).

  With XeTeX or LuaTeX, the glyphs are missing altogether, which is
actually what I expected (of course I have to get rid of \enableregime
first).  I guess Mark II tries to be smart and fake Greek letters with
Math Italic, but fails to render the letter with accents correctly.

  Then I try with Antykwa Toruńska which indeed has the glyphs:

> \usetypescript[antykwa-torunska]
> \setupbodyfont[antykwa]

  First of all, these two lines don't change anything for me, I have to
specify an encoding, but I don't know which one to use for Greek so I
took my chances with ec and replaced the first line with
“\usetypescript[antykwa-torunska][ec]”.

  Then, with pdfTeX, the result is more or less the same as with Latin
Modern (roman capital Kappa, italic small letters, 'e for epsilon with
tonos).  With XeTeX it's a bit better but the mu are missing (?), and
with LuaTeX it looks right. My head hurts ...

  But isn't it possible to use Silvio Levy and Claudio Beccari's Greek
fonts?  They are part of the minimal distribution, and I see there is a
whole typescript file for them (type-cbg), and I would expect to use
them for Greek, rather than the Polish fonts.  The only thing I don't
know, actually, is which encoding to use (in LaTeX this would be LGR, I
think, but it doesn't seem to work here).

Arthur

P-S: OK, on a second try the mu's are actually there with XeTeX as well ...
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Re: [NTG-context] Unicode greek in Context

2008-02-06 Thread Hans Hagen
Arthur Reutenauer wrote:

>   Actually there's more to it, Greek letters seem to be given a weird
> treatment: when trying the sample file Vassilis posted, I see vowels
> with tonos are rendered as an apostrophe followed by the Latin
> equivalent letter (!), and -- except for the capital Kappa -- the other
> letters are obviously taken from Latin Modern Math Italic (so the
> absence of the glyphs from the roman fonts is not such a problem, but
> the result is typographically very poor).

this is because when no greek is present (keep in min dthat we talk of 
fonts with at most 256 chars) the defaults are real stupid defaults just 
to get something ... in enco-def there are definitions like:

\definecharacter greekAlphatonos   {'A}


>   With XeTeX or LuaTeX, the glyphs are missing altogether, which is
> actually what I expected (of course I have to get rid of \enableregime
> first).  I guess Mark II tries to be smart and fake Greek letters with
> Math Italic, but fails to render the letter with accents correctly.
> 
>   Then I try with Antykwa Toruńska which indeed has the glyphs:
> 
>> \usetypescript[antykwa-torunska]
>> \setupbodyfont[antykwa]
> 
>   First of all, these two lines don't change anything for me, I have to
> specify an encoding, but I don't know which one to use for Greek so I
> took my chances with ec and replaced the first line with
> “\usetypescript[antykwa-torunska][ec]”.
> 
>   Then, with pdfTeX, the result is more or less the same as with Latin
> Modern (roman capital Kappa, italic small letters, 'e for epsilon with
> tonos).  With XeTeX it's a bit better but the mu are missing (?), and
> with LuaTeX it looks right. My head hurts ...

with luatex there is some more trickery .. trying to find a match using 
the unicode tables but even then if fonts lack the chars ... well .. bad 
luck (if tex would not have math and therefore math greek one would 
never notice the differerences in such defaults)

>   But isn't it possible to use Silvio Levy and Claudio Beccari's Greek
> fonts?  They are part of the minimal distribution, and I see there is a
> whole typescript file for them (type-cbg), and I would expect to use
> them for Greek, rather than the Polish fonts.  The only thing I don't
> know, actually, is which encoding to use (in LaTeX this would be LGR, I
> think, but it doesn't seem to work here).

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt logo with cows

2008-02-06 Thread Matija Šuklje
Dne torek 5. februarja 2008 je Matija Šuklje napisal(a):
> No, it was a presentation in Cyberpipe (video will be available on
> http://video.kiberpipa.org in a few days/weeks) ;)

Actually, here it is already:

http://video.kiberpipa.org/media/POT_Mojca_Miklavec-ConTeXt-Latex_v_novi_preobleki/raw.html

Hurray, for the Cyberpipe video team! :D


Cheers,
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[NTG-context] week of wiki 1: call for "installation instructions"

2008-02-06 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Dear ConTeXt felows,

Wiki has been sleeping for a long time. Specifically, some topics
change considerably over time, but wiki pages do not, and so newbie
users are completely confused.

I would like to announce
  "The First Week of Wiki: Improving the Installation Instructions"
   http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Category:Installation

Take this page for example:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TeTeX_3.0_installation
It should more-or-less disapear (it may be left for historical reasons
in quarantine, but other than that, it should not confuse people!!!)

So, I have a little request: can we devote one week (or 10 days if
neded) for improvement of installation instructions? This means:
- improve a generic page (Installation) with links,  general notes
about dependencies (ruby, perl), general settings
(\useMPTEXgraphicstrue, \preloadtypescripts, write18, texexec --make
--all, ctxtools --updatecontext, ..), release notes
- three (or slightly more) main pages: Windows Installation, Mac
Installation, Linux Installation
- Linux Installation may have links to Debian Installation or to
Installation from source or similar, but we certainly do not need
dozens of different pages for the same thing (Debian TeXlive install,
Debian installation, TeX-live)
- an template for obsolete stuff (what to do with Aleph? - it's not
supported any more anyway)
Etc.

The topic to follow should probably be about fonts or hello world
documents. But we should start somewhere.

Mojca

PS: here is some statistics about the top 5 pages visited on the wiki:

/Main_Page  14.96%
/Windows_Installation   2.82%
/What_is_ConTeXt1.78%
/Special:Recentchanges  1.75%
/First_Document 1.44%
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Re: [NTG-context] Bookmark question

2008-02-06 Thread WN

Taco Hoekwater wrote:

WN wrote:
  

Hi,

When I use \bookmark[chapter]{Some bookmark} the bookmark appears twice 
in the list of bookmarks

but the bookmark also appears twice in the Table of Contents.



I think chapter titles are supposed appear automatically in the
bookmarks, no need for an explicit \bookmark.
  

True enough. But should they appear twice ?
I want a custom bookmark for the table of contents and list of figures,
so I used \bookmark[chapter] to include these (once not twice).

Best wishes
Wim

Best wishes,
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[NTG-context] DEB of Context 2008-01-28 anybody?

2008-02-06 Thread Johannes Graumann
Hi all,

Is there a *.deb release for the current context version, or what are the
plans for it? I'm hesitant to go with a distribution independent context
install ...

Joh

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Re: [NTG-context] {{ double braces }}

2008-02-06 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

> Actually I use this to highlight footnotes in my texteditor: colorize
> entire footnotes for for easier reading.
>
> I am quite happy to have (on MacOSX) a text-editor that gives such
> "syntax coloring" flexibility: it is Satoshi Matsumoto's Jedit X. And
> here RegularExpressions are used for that purpose.
>
> If someone knows an editor that does "syntax coloring" with lua or
> gema, I'd be very interested!

In vim you can highlight comands and their "regions" using region start, 
region end, and region contains. That can be used to highlight footnotes. 
(I once used something similar for highlighting sections in LaTeX, but no 
longer have that code).

Of course, vim comes with rest of its baggage.

Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt book

2008-02-06 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008, Otared Kavian wrote:

> Now in my opinion the idea of having a book is a good one: for instance many

How about distributing the ConTeXt manuals from Lulu or someother self 
publishing website. I think that the eplain manual is distributed this 
way.

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt logo with cows

2008-02-06 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> http://video.kiberpipa.org/media/POT_Mojca_Miklavec-ConTeXt-Latex_v_novi_preobleki/raw.html

  The Content-Type is wrong :-D  (Actually, missing altogether ...)

> p.s. the presentation is in Slovene, but you can still admire the costume and 
> the cowfont ;)

  Grml, missing Theora codecs somehow ... but well, I still heard what I
was supposed to :-)

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt logo with cows

2008-02-06 Thread Hans Hagen
Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
>> http://video.kiberpipa.org/media/POT_Mojca_Miklavec-ConTeXt-Latex_v_novi_preobleki/raw.html
> 
>   The Content-Type is wrong :-D  (Actually, missing altogether ...)
> 
>> p.s. the presentation is in Slovene, but you can still admire the costume 
>> and 
>> the cowfont ;)
> 
>   Grml, missing Theora codecs somehow ... but well, I still heard what I
> was supposed to :-)

it views ok on windows (uses java plugin in video streaming in internet 
explorer; firefox just want to download it); but i need an additional 
realtime babelfish plugin i fear

interesting costume indeed -)

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt logo with cows

2008-02-06 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Le 06 février à 18:12:30 Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> écrit notamment:

| Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
| >> 
http://video.kiberpipa.org/media/POT_Mojca_Miklavec-ConTeXt-Latex_v_novi_preobleki/raw.html
| > 
| >   The Content-Type is wrong :-D  (Actually, missing altogether ...)
| > 
| >> p.s. the presentation is in Slovene, but you can still admire the costume 
and 
| >> the cowfont ;)
| > 
| >   Grml, missing Theora codecs somehow ... but well, I still heard what I
| > was supposed to :-)
>
| it views ok on windows (uses java plugin in video streaming in internet 
| explorer; firefox just want to download it); but i need an additional 
| realtime babelfish plugin i fear

No problem to watch it with firefox on linux (clicking on the first link);
on the "video" link, it wants to download the film.

>
| interesting costume indeed -)

True!
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt logo with cows

2008-02-06 Thread Steffen Wolfrum

Am 06.02.2008 um 19:00 schrieb Jean Magnan de Bornier:

> Le 06 février à 18:12:30 Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> écrit notamment:
>
> | Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
> | >> http://video.kiberpipa.org/media/POT_Mojca_Miklavec-ConTeXt- 
> Latex_v_novi_preobleki/raw.html
> | >
> | >   The Content-Type is wrong :-D  (Actually, missing  
> altogether ...)
> | >
> | >> p.s. the presentation is in Slovene, but you can still admire  
> the costume and
> | >> the cowfont ;)

Where is the cowfont actually ?


> | >   Grml, missing Theora codecs somehow ... but well, I still  
> heard what I
> | > was supposed to :-)
>>
> | it views ok on windows (uses java plugin in video streaming in  
> internet
> | explorer; firefox just want to download it); but i need an  
> additional
> | realtime babelfish plugin i fear
>
> No problem to watch it with firefox on linux (clicking on the first  
> link);
> on the "video" link, it wants to download the film.


Same on Mac (10.4) here.

Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] Bookmark question

2008-02-06 Thread Taco Hoekwater

WN wrote:


I think chapter titles are supposed appear automatically in the
bookmarks, no need for an explicit \bookmark.
  

True enough. But should they appear twice ?
I want a custom bookmark for the table of contents and list of figures,
so I used \bookmark[chapter] to include these (once not twice).


Ah, I see now. Looks like a bug to me. I do not understand the code
well enough to fix it, however. I am attaching a minimal example for
Hans.

(meanwhile, you could use \bookmark without the optional argument).

Best wishes,
Taco


\setupinteraction[state=start] 
\placebookmarks[chapter][chapter]
\setupinteractionscreen[option=bookmark]

\starttext
\chapter{In the beginning}
\bookmark[chapter]{In initio} % Without [chapter], this is fine!

Oh no.
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt logo with cows

2008-02-06 Thread Matija Šuklje
Dne sreda 6. februarja 2008 je Steffen Wolfrum napisal(a):

> Where is the cowfont actually ?

In the titles/sections of the slides  ;)

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Re: [NTG-context] week of wiki 1: call for "installation instructions"

2008-02-06 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2008-02-06 um 15:50 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:

> So, I have a little request: can we devote one week (or 10 days if
> neded) for improvement of installation instructions? This means:
> - improve a generic page (Installation) with links,  general notes
> about dependencies (ruby, perl), general settings
> (\useMPTEXgraphicstrue, \preloadtypescripts, write18, texexec --make
> --all, ctxtools --updatecontext, ..), release notes
> - three (or slightly more) main pages: Windows Installation, Mac
> Installation, Linux Installation

I just cleaned up the Mac page (it was really messy) and added a hint  
to the minimal distribution - that page goes under the bad name of  
"Linux_User_Installation". I guess we should rename that.


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Re: [NTG-context] Bookmark question

2008-02-06 Thread WN


This is what I would like to do

\startfrontmatter
\bookmark[chapter]{Inhoudsopgave}
\completecontent[partnumber=no]
\page
\bookmark[chapter]{Lijst van figuren}
\completelistoffigures[partnumber=no]
\stopfrontmatter
\startbodymatter
\component chapter01
\component chapter02
...
\stopbodymatter

the bookmarks only appears with the [chapter] included, but twice.
Also they appear twice in the table of contents (which is consistent).

I would like the bookmarks to appear once and not in the TOC.
Perhaps Hans can take the above code, as indeed your code works but
not in the above code.

Best wishes
Wim


Taco Hoekwater wrote:

WN wrote:


I think chapter titles are supposed appear automatically in the
bookmarks, no need for an explicit \bookmark.
  

True enough. But should they appear twice ?
I want a custom bookmark for the table of contents and list of figures,
so I used \bookmark[chapter] to include these (once not twice).


Ah, I see now. Looks like a bug to me. I do not understand the code
well enough to fix it, however. I am attaching a minimal example for
Hans.

(meanwhile, you could use \bookmark without the optional argument).

Best wishes,
Taco


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Re: [NTG-context] {{ double braces }}

2008-02-06 Thread Hans van der Meer
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

> Actually I use this to highlight footnotes in my texteditor: colorize
> entire footnotes for for easier reading.
>
> I am quite happy to have (on MacOSX) a text-editor that gives such
> "syntax coloring" flexibility: it is Satoshi Matsumoto's Jedit X. And
> here RegularExpressions are used for that purpose.
>
> If someone knows an editor that does "syntax coloring" with lua or
> gema, I'd be very interested!

BBEdit on MacOSX also recognizes lua files, at least in version 8.7.2


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Re: [NTG-context] Bookmark question

2008-02-06 Thread Hans Hagen
WN wrote:
> 
> This is what I would like to do
> 
> \startfrontmatter
> \bookmark[chapter]{Inhoudsopgave}
> \completecontent[partnumber=no]
> \page
> \bookmark[chapter]{Lijst van figuren}
> \completelistoffigures[partnumber=no]
> \stopfrontmatter
> \startbodymatter
> \component chapter01
> \component chapter02
> 
> \stopbodymatter
> 
> the bookmarks only appears with the [chapter] included, but twice.
> Also they appear twice in the table of contents (which is consistent).


\setupinteraction[state=start]

\placebookmarks

\starttext

\completecontent[partnumber=no]

\bookmark[chapter]{Inhoudsopgave}

\page

\completelistoffigures[partnumber=no]
\bookmark[chapter]{Lijst van figuren}

\chapter{first}
\chapter{second}

\stoptext


> I would like the bookmarks to appear once and not in the TOC.
> Perhaps Hans can take the above code, as indeed your code works but
> not in the above code.
> 
> Best wishes
> Wim
> 
> 
> Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>> WN wrote:

 I think chapter titles are supposed appear automatically in the
 bookmarks, no need for an explicit \bookmark.
   
>>> True enough. But should they appear twice ?
>>> I want a custom bookmark for the table of contents and list of figures,
>>> so I used \bookmark[chapter] to include these (once not twice).
>>
>> Ah, I see now. Looks like a bug to me. I do not understand the code
>> well enough to fix it, however. I am attaching a minimal example for
>> Hans.
>>
>> (meanwhile, you could use \bookmark without the optional argument).
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Bookmark question

2008-02-06 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hans Hagen wrote:
> WN wrote:
>> This is what I would like to do
>>
>> \startfrontmatter
>> \bookmark[chapter]{Inhoudsopgave}
>> \completecontent[partnumber=no]
>> \page
>> \bookmark[chapter]{Lijst van figuren}
>> \completelistoffigures[partnumber=no]
>> \stopfrontmatter
>> \startbodymatter
>> \component chapter01
>> \component chapter02
>> 
>> \stopbodymatter
>>
>> the bookmarks only appears with the [chapter] included, but twice.
>> Also they appear twice in the table of contents (which is consistent).
> 
> 
> \setupinteraction[state=start]
> 
> \placebookmarks
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \completecontent[partnumber=no]
> 
> \bookmark[chapter]{Inhoudsopgave}
> 
> \page
> 
> \completelistoffigures[partnumber=no]
> \bookmark[chapter]{Lijst van figuren}
> 
> \chapter{first}
> \chapter{second}
> 
> \stoptext

That looks good, but why? Does \complexbookmark only work to
overrule a yet-to-come sectioning command?

Cheers,
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Re: [NTG-context] week of wiki 1: call for "installation instructions"

2008-02-06 Thread Andrea Valle

(Well done)

-a-

On 6 Feb 2008, at 20:18, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:


Am 2008-02-06 um 15:50 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:


So, I have a little request: can we devote one week (or 10 days if
neded) for improvement of installation instructions? This means:
- improve a generic page (Installation) with links,  general notes
about dependencies (ruby, perl), general settings
(\useMPTEXgraphicstrue, \preloadtypescripts, write18, texexec --make
--all, ctxtools --updatecontext, ..), release notes
- three (or slightly more) main pages: Windows Installation, Mac
Installation, Linux Installation


I just cleaned up the Mac page (it was really messy) and added a hint
to the minimal distribution - that page goes under the bad name of
"Linux_User_Installation". I guess we should rename that.


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Re: [NTG-context] {{ double braces }}

2008-02-06 Thread Steffen Wolfrum

Am 06.02.2008 um 20:20 schrieb Hans van der Meer:

> On Wed, 6 Feb 2008, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>
>> Actually I use this to highlight footnotes in my texteditor: colorize
>> entire footnotes for for easier reading.
>>
>> I am quite happy to have (on MacOSX) a text-editor that gives such
>> "syntax coloring" flexibility: it is Satoshi Matsumoto's Jedit X. And
>> here RegularExpressions are used for that purpose.
>>
>> If someone knows an editor that does "syntax coloring" with lua or
>> gema, I'd be very interested!
>
> BBEdit on MacOSX also recognizes lua files, at least in version 8.7.2

Sure, but how does that affect syntax coloring??

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Re: [NTG-context] week of wiki 1: call for "installation instructions"

2008-02-06 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Feb 6, 2008 8:18 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Am 2008-02-06 um 15:50 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:
>
> > So, I have a little request: can we devote one week (or 10 days if
> > neded) for improvement of installation instructions? This means:
> > - improve a generic page (Installation) with links,  general notes
> > about dependencies (ruby, perl), general settings
> > (\useMPTEXgraphicstrue, \preloadtypescripts, write18, texexec --make
> > --all, ctxtools --updatecontext, ..), release notes
> > - three (or slightly more) main pages: Windows Installation, Mac
> > Installation, Linux Installation
>
> I just cleaned up the Mac page (it was really messy)

Great, thanks!

Now that I have seen a note about TeXShop, maybe a note about editors
(TextMate) or link to page with editors and viewers (Skim) would be in
place as well (at least a list of them).

> and added a hint
> to the minimal distribution - that page goes under the bad name of
> "Linux_User_Installation". I guess we should rename that.

True, Linux_User_Installation should be more general since it works
with any "unix".
I have alse created a page
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals, but that one needs to
be improved (too much junk on it - wiki pages need to be short and
clear, else nobody reads them).

Hans has not updated his distribution since August (which means that
there are still old binaries ond fonts) and we're working on improving
the new minimals at the moment. The good side of it is that it uses
rsync, and updates semi-automatically (binaries need to be rebuilt
manually, and many parts need to be improved), the bad side of it is
that if garden goes down, there is no backup server yet to fetch the
binaries from (and if the disk stops working, I will need quite some
time to get all the parts together again), and the structure might
still change a bit.

But the basic idea and the structure once the files are downloaded are
similar (we started building the minimals based more-or-less on the
same set of files as there are in Hans's minimals).

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] {{ double braces }}

2008-02-06 Thread Hans van der Meer

On 6 feb 2008, at 21:01, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

>
> Am 06.02.2008 um 20:20 schrieb Hans van der Meer:
>
>> On Wed, 6 Feb 2008, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>>
>>> Actually I use this to highlight footnotes in my texteditor:  
>>> colorize
>>> entire footnotes for for easier reading.
>>>
>>> I am quite happy to have (on MacOSX) a text-editor that gives such
>>> "syntax coloring" flexibility: it is Satoshi Matsumoto's Jedit X.  
>>> And
>>> here RegularExpressions are used for that purpose.
>>>
>>> If someone knows an editor that does "syntax coloring" with lua or
>>> gema, I'd be very interested!
>>
>> BBEdit on MacOSX also recognizes lua files, at least in version 8.7.2
>
> Sure, but how does that affect syntax coloring??

It recognizes keywords, string constants and comments, each can have a  
different (user definable) color. The comment start (usually --) and  
optionally comment end can be chosen via a preference panel.

Hans van der Meer




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Re: [NTG-context] {{ double braces }}

2008-02-06 Thread Otared Kavian

On 6 févr. 08, at 10:11, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

> […]
>
> If someone knows an editor that does "syntax coloring" with lua or
> gema, I'd be very interested!

Hi Steffen,

Smultron does this on MacOS X:
http://smultron.sourceforge.net/

In fact one can define easily a set of syntax colouring for almost  
anything with Smultron.

Best regards: OK
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Re: [NTG-context] week of wiki 1: call for "installation instructions"

2008-02-06 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2008-02-06 um 21:03 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:

>> I just cleaned up the Mac page (it was really messy)
> Now that I have seen a note about TeXShop, maybe a note about editors
> (TextMate) or link to page with editors and viewers (Skim) would be in
> place as well (at least a list of them).

Ok, I linked to Text_Editors - every further tool should be listed  
there, not on the installation pages.

>> to the minimal distribution - that page goes under the bad name of
>> "Linux_User_Installation". I guess we should rename that.
> True, Linux_User_Installation should be more general since it works
> with any "unix".
> I have alse created a page
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals, but that one needs to
> be improved (too much junk on it - wiki pages need to be short and
> clear, else nobody reads them).

I can't help with that - I use TeXlive, updated with "ctxtools -- 
updatecontext".

> Hans has not updated his distribution since August (which means that
> there are still old binaries ond fonts) and we're working on improving
> the new minimals at the moment. The good side of it is that it uses
> rsync, and updates semi-automatically (binaries need to be rebuilt
> manually, and many parts need to be improved), the bad side of it is
> that if garden goes down, there is no backup server yet to fetch the
> binaries from (and if the disk stops working, I will need quite some
> time to get all the parts together again), and the structure might
> still change a bit.

Ok, we (you?) should explain the relationship between the minimals  
hosted at "pragma-ade.com/context/install/" (Linux_User_Installation)  
and that on "minimals.contextgarden.net" (ConTeXt Minimals).

I could provide some space on my webserver as backup (how much do you  
need?), but I'd prefer to get no too much public traffic.


Greetlings from Lake Constance!
Hraban
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https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer)

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Re: [NTG-context] week of wiki 1: call for "installation instructions"

2008-02-06 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> Ok, we (you?) should explain the relationship between the minimals  
> hosted at "pragma-ade.com/context/install/" (Linux_User_Installation)  
> and that on "minimals.contextgarden.net" (ConTeXt Minimals).
> 
> I could provide some space on my webserver as backup (how much do you  
> need?), but I'd prefer to get no too much public traffic.
> 

I can run a peer on context.aanhet.net, no problem. We just need
a synchronisation protocol.

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Re: [NTG-context] week of wiki 1: call for "installation instructions"

2008-02-06 Thread Hans Hagen
Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

> Ok, we (you?) should explain the relationship between the minimals  
> hosted at "pragma-ade.com/context/install/" (Linux_User_Installation)  
> and that on "minimals.contextgarden.net" (ConTeXt Minimals).

as soon as everything is up and running, the minimals from our website 
will go away (ok, i may consider zipped snapshots taken from the garden)

(i also need to make the cdwincontext etc)

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Re: [NTG-context] Bookmark question

2008-02-06 Thread Hans Hagen
Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> Hans Hagen wrote:
>> WN wrote:
>>> This is what I would like to do
>>>
>>> \startfrontmatter
>>> \bookmark[chapter]{Inhoudsopgave}
>>> \completecontent[partnumber=no]
>>> \page
>>> \bookmark[chapter]{Lijst van figuren}
>>> \completelistoffigures[partnumber=no]
>>> \stopfrontmatter
>>> \startbodymatter
>>> \component chapter01
>>> \component chapter02
>>> 
>>> \stopbodymatter
>>>
>>> the bookmarks only appears with the [chapter] included, but twice.
>>> Also they appear twice in the table of contents (which is consistent).
>>
>> \setupinteraction[state=start]
>>
>> \placebookmarks
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \completecontent[partnumber=no]
>>
>> \bookmark[chapter]{Inhoudsopgave}
>>
>> \page
>>
>> \completelistoffigures[partnumber=no]
>> \bookmark[chapter]{Lijst van figuren}
>>
>> \chapter{first}
>> \chapter{second}
>>
>> \stoptext
> 
> That looks good, but why? Does \complexbookmark only work to
> overrule a yet-to-come sectioning command?

no, the previous one (bookmarks are flushed in everypar)

in this case the \complete... has a \chapter so the bookmark influences 
that one

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Re: [NTG-context] \placeregister[index][compress=yes] BROKEN ??

2008-02-06 Thread Hans Hagen
Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>> In context version 20070417 it works. The next one (2007-07-24) fails.
> 
> And here is a document-level patch (mkii mode) that fixes it.
> I leave it up to Hans to formalize this properly.

ok

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Re: [NTG-context] Bookmark question

2008-02-06 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hans Hagen wrote:
>> That looks good, but why? Does \complexbookmark only work to
>> overrule a yet-to-come sectioning command?
> 
> no, the previous one (bookmarks are flushed in everypar)
> 
> in this case the \complete... has a \chapter so the bookmark influences 
> that one

So what is wrong with this input then?

% engine=pdftex
\setupinteraction[state=start]
\placebookmarks

\starttext
\chapter{In the beginning}

\bookmark[chapter]{In initio} % Without [chapter], this is fine!

Oh no.
\stoptext

This creates three (3!) chapter bookmark entries:

   In the beginning
   In initio
   In initio


instead of the expected 1:

   In initio


Best wishes,
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Re: [NTG-context] Unicode greek in Context

2008-02-06 Thread Βασίλης Γκολφινόπουλος
OK, that worked with XeTeX. Thank you all.

Now, if I could just install the thing...

- Original Message - 
From: "Mojca Miklavec" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Unicode greek in Context


> On Feb 5, 2008 8:24 PM, Βασίλης Γκολφινόπουλος wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am evaluating context for using it to write long greek documents. So 
>> far I
>> have not succeeded in typesetting unicode greek in live-context. I have
>> tried scanning the documentation and mailing list archive with no 
>> success. I
>> must admit I am not a very technical user. This is what I have tried so 
>> far
>> (unseccessfuly):
>>
>> \enableregime[utf-8]
>> \mainlanguage[gr]
>> \starttext
>> Hello world!
>> Καλημέρα κόσμε!
>> \stoptext
>>
>> Is there something wrong with that? Sorry if I am wasting your time -- if
>> there is a good "RTFM" answer I would not mind.
>
> ConTeXt Live didn't work because the default font (Latin Modern) has
> almost no Greek glyphs present. You need to use another font, but then
> again - the garden might be lacking good greek fonts. You shold add at
> least
>
> \usetypescript[antykwa-torunska]
> \setupbodyfont[antykwa]
>
> and choose XeTeX or LuaTeX.
>
> But then again - I bothered Taco so much about the urge to upload the
> latest version of ConTeXt to CTAN, and completely forgot that the
> latest LM font release broke the ConTeXt live as well.
>
> ConTeXt live is based on TeX Live 2007 + latest ConTeXt - we will
> probably move it to use the "new minimals". In the meantime I will try
> to replace the Latin Modern fonts.
>
> The misfunction of live ConTeX should not be the showstopper.
>
> Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Unicode greek in Context

2008-02-06 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Feb 6, 2008 11:00 PM, Βασίλης Γκολφινόπουλος <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK, that worked with XeTeX. Thank you all.
>
> Now, if I could just install the thing...

What is wrong? Which OS?

You can try one of
http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/
(if you don't have MikTeX or TeX Live)

And then run
  ./first-setup.sh
  cd tex
 . setuptex
(if you're on unix)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] DEB of Context 2008-01-28 anybody?

2008-02-06 Thread Joel C. Salomon
On Feb 6, 2008 11:35 AM, Johannes Graumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a *.deb release for the current context version, or what are the
> plans for it?

Norbert Preining is on vacation, so I'm guessing no.  The most recent
version he's got on his site
(http://people.debian.org/~preining/TeX/context/) is 2008.01.02.

> I'm hesitant to go with a distribution independent context install ...

Do you absolutely, positively need the most recent version, or did you
want to test it?

--Joel
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