[NTG-context] ctxtools --updatecontext

2008-04-24 Thread David Arnold
All,

If you run:

ctxtools --updatecontext

And it just hangs and times out, what should you try?

D.
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Re: [NTG-context] question about mplib/mkiv

2008-04-24 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hans Hagen wrote:
 Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
 Hi,

 for my presentations, I have a graphical counter on every slide, so  
 metapost has to write a graphic for every slide/page that ConTeXt  
 produces. This works with mkii, but when I process my file in mkiv, I  
 get this error after page 16:

 report  error: 15 output files written:  ..
 Transcript written on mpout.log.

 Memory size overflow!
 [15.15]

That error indeed comes from mplib, but from the overflow test in
realloc(), not the memory array overflow function. You get this
error when you attempt to allocate more than 2^31 bytes. Since that
clearly should not happen, there is a bug somewhere in MPlib. But
I'll need your source to dig it out. (likely you do something we
have never tested yet).


Best wishes,
Taco


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Re: [NTG-context] ctxtools --updatecontext

2008-04-24 Thread Taco Hoekwater
David Arnold wrote:
 All,
 
 If you run:
 
 ctxtools --updatecontext
 
 And it just hangs and times out, what should you try?

Check you network connection, you could be behind a firewall
that prevents direct access to the internet. You can specify
a proxy server on the commandline with --proxy=...

Best wishes,
Taco


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Re: [NTG-context] ctxtools --updatecontext

2008-04-24 Thread David Arnold
Taco,

Thanks. But it works in my office, but not in my colleague's office.  
I have gwtex and he has mactex.

Admitting my ignorance, what is a proxy server?

D.

On Apr 23, 2008, at 11:42 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

 David Arnold wrote:
 All,

 If you run:

 ctxtools --updatecontext

 And it just hangs and times out, what should you try?

 Check you network connection, you could be behind a firewall
 that prevents direct access to the internet. You can specify
 a proxy server on the commandline with --proxy=...

 Best wishes,
 Taco


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Re: [NTG-context] ctxtools --updatecontext

2008-04-24 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 9:02 AM, David Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Taco,

 Thanks. But it works in my office, but not in my colleague's office.
 I have gwtex and he has mactex.

 Admitting my ignorance, what is a proxy server?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_server

The important part for your colleague.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_server#At_schools_and_offices

Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] urw garamond typescript

2008-04-24 Thread Peter Münster
Great, now it works!  (with luatex-r1188 and context-beta)


The typescript from Hans at the end of this message works fine.
Some questions for my understanding:
- Why 2 \starttypescript-\stoptypescript sections, and not 1?
- What does \setups[font:fallback:serif] mean?
- What is \definetypeface for?
- What is the meaning of each parameter of \definetypeface?
- Why does the third \starttypescript only have one parameter and no
  [serif]?

After playing around with the typescript, I got the following minmal
typescript, that seems to give the same result:

\starttypescript [urwgaramond]
   \definefontsynonym [Serif]   [file:GaramondNo8-Reg]
   \definefontsynonym [SerifBold]   [file:GaramondNo8-Med]
   \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [file:GaramondNo8-Ita]
   \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [file:GaramondNo8-MedIta]
   \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [] [serif] [\typescriptone]
\stoptypescript
\usetypescript[urwgaramond]
\setupbodyfont[urwgaramond]

I strongly believe, that Hans' typescript is better, could somebody explain
why?

Cheers, Peter




% engine=luatex
\definefontfeature[complete][liga=yes,kern=yes,compose=yes,tlig=yes,trep=yes]

\starttypescript [serif] [urwgaramond]
   \setups[font:fallback:serif]
   \definefontsynonym [Serif]   [Garamond-Regular]
   \definefontsynonym [SerifBold]   [Garamond-Medium]
   \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [Garamond-Italic]
   \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [Garamond-MediumItalic]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [serif] [urwgaramond]
   \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Regular]  [file:GaramondNo8-Reg]
[features=complete]
   \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Medium]   [file:GaramondNo8-Med]
[features=complete]
   \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Italic]   [file:GaramondNo8-Ita]
[features=complete]
   \definefontsynonym [Garamond-MediumItalic] [file:GaramondNo8-MedIta]
[features=complete]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [urwgaramond]
   \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [rm] [serif] [urwgaramond] [default]
\stoptypescript

\usetypescript[urwgaramond]
\setupbodyfont[urwgaramond]

\starttext
\rm\input knuth

\it\input knuth

\bf\input knuth

\bi\input knuth
\stoptext


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[NTG-context] correct installation gnuplot module question

2008-04-24 Thread Jan-Erik Hägglöf
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HI!

I have minimal context installation installed in my $USER/ctx-test/
directory tree and have two questions.

First:

I've downloaded the 2007.02.16 zip and placed the containing 3 files

in my case
$USER/ctx-test/tex/texmf-context/tpm/t-gnuplot.tpm
$USER/ctx-test/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/third/gnuplot/t-gnuplot.tex
$USER/ctx-test/tex/texmf-context/metapost/context/base/mp-gnuplot.mp

Then $ mktexlsr
and then texexec gnuplot-test.tex

Following code in my tex file

\mainlanguage[sv]
\enableregime[utf]
\usemodule[gnuplot]
\setupGNUPLOT[terminal=mp]

\startGNUPLOTscript[datatest]
set xlabel Halloj
set ylabel hej
plot 'testdata.dat'
\stopGNUPLOTscript
\starttext
\useGNUPLOTgraphic[datatest]
\stoptext

gnuplot works ok on my system

but context cannot produce the pdf-file that includes in the document.
Complains about a missing gnuplot-test-gnuplot-1-mp-0.pdf( see
attached logfile)

Following files was created in the directory

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/context/gnuplot$ ls -l
totalt 1556
- -rw--- 1 janne janne 1431174 2008-03-25 10:14 gnuplot.pdf
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne4477 2008-04-24 08:38
gnuplot-test-gnuplot-1-mp.0
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne 291 2008-04-24 08:38
gnuplot-test-gnuplot-1-mp.log
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne5869 2008-04-24 08:38
gnuplot-test-gnuplot-1-mp.mp
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne5641 2008-04-24 08:38
gnuplot-test-gnuplot-1-mp.mp.keep
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne7440 2008-04-24 08:38
gnuplot-test-gnuplot-1-mp.mpx
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne1604 2008-04-24 08:38
gnuplot-test-gnuplot-1-mp-temp.dvi
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne   5 2008-04-24 08:38
gnuplot-test-gnuplot-1-mp-temp-mpgraph.mp
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne 119 2008-04-24 08:38
gnuplot-test-gnuplot-1.plt
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne9595 2008-04-24 08:38 gnuplot-test.log
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne   5 2008-04-24 08:38 gnuplot-test-mpgraph.mp
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne   39373 2008-04-24 08:38 gnuplot-test.pdf
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne 241 2008-04-23 23:32 gnuplot-test.tex
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne 231 2008-04-23 23:30 gnuplot-test.tex~
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne 269 2008-04-24 08:38 gnuplot-test.tmp
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne   17983 2008-04-24 08:38 gnuplot-test.tui
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne 812 2008-04-24 08:38 gnuplot-test.tuo
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne   5 2008-04-24 08:38 mpgraph.mp
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne  33 2008-04-23 23:20 testdata.dat
- -rw-r--r-- 1 janne janne   1 2008-04-23 23:18 testdata.dat~

See the attached logfile.

The second question is how to make this work with the luatex engine?

Many thanks for any help in advance


Janneman
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 (/home/janne/ctx-test/tex/texmf-context/web2c/natural.tcx)
**gnuplot-test.tex \emergencyend
(./gnuplot-test.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2008.04.16 17:34 MKII  fmt: 2008.4.16  int: english/english

language: language en is active
system  : cont-new loaded
(/home/janne/ctx-test/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex
(/home/janne/ctx-test/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkii)
(/home/janne/ctx-test/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-mtx.tex))
system  : cont-old loaded
(/home/janne/ctx-test/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex
loading : Context Old Macros
)
system  : cont-fil loaded
(/home/janne/ctx-test/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex
loading : Context File Synonyms
)
system  : cont-sys loaded
(/home/janne/ctx-test/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user/cont-sys.tex
(/home/janne/ctx-test/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-tmf.tex)
(/home/janne/ctx-test/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/home/janne/ctx-test/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-one.tex)
(/home/janne/ctx-test/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
system (OLDTEX) : [line 67] 
)
bodyfont: 12pt rm is loaded
language: patterns nl-texnansi:texnansi-1-2:3 nl-ec:ec-2-2:3 fr-
texnansi:texnansi-3-2:3 fr-ec:ec-4-2:3 de-texnansi:texnansi-5-2:3 de-e
c:ec-6-2:3 it-texnansi:texnansi-7-2:3 it-ec:ec-8-2:3 pt-texnansi:texna
nsi-9-2:3 pt-ec:ec-10-2:3 hr-ec:ec-11-2:3 pl-pl0:pl0-12-2:3 pl-ec:e
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c-22-2:3 uk-ec:ec-23-2:3 us-ec:ec-24-2:3 agr-agr:agr-25-2:3 da-ec:e
c-26-2:3 sv-ec:ec-27-2:3 af-ec:ec-28-2:3 no-ec:ec-29-2:3 deo-ec:ec-
30-2:3 es-ec:ec-34-2:3 ca-ec:ec-35-2:3 la-ec:ec-36-2:3 

Re: [NTG-context] Minimals - how to use?

2008-04-24 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Diego Depaoli wrote:
 A bit ot...
  running first-setup.sh under FreeBSD I get

  /usr/local/bin/rsync
  /usr/local/bin/ruby
  receiving file list ... done

  sent 98 bytes  received 149 bytes  164.67 bytes/sec
  total size is 4219262  speedup is 17082.03

  MtxRun | version 1.0.2 - 2007+ - PRAGMA ADE / CONTEXT

  MtxRun | skipping configuration for /texmf-local/web2c from
  
 /home/diego/luatex-cache/context/fcf214085bb2c4fcd9a0f9a9f0d0aecf/trees/d80510d450a3fa2a64df4d3741825f1d
  MtxRun | skipping configuration for /texmf/web2c from
  
 /home/diego/luatex-cache/context/fcf214085bb2c4fcd9a0f9a9f0d0aecf/trees/3113242409ded67a0ad7bd508bd26609
  MtxRun | using script: ./bin/mtx-update.luareport  state: loaded
  report  update: start
  ./bin/mtx-update.lua:181: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got 
 nil)

  what's wrong here?

Did the new LuaTeX resolve the problems? (I'm not sure if FreeBSD
minimals have ever worked - Hans has applied a patch several days ago,
but it has not been tested so far.)

Thanks,
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] ctxtools --updatecontext

2008-04-24 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 8:29 AM, David Arnold wrote:
 All,

  If you run:

  ctxtools --updatecontext

  And it just hangs and times out, what should you try?

Does this work?
   rsync -av \
  rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/current/context/current/ \
  /usr/local/mactex/texmf.local
(adapt the path according to your needs, I have no idea how the tree
is organized)

(but you still need to run texexec --make --all manually after
fetching all the files)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] urw garamond typescript

2008-04-24 Thread Hans Hagen
Peter Münster wrote:
 Great, now it works!  (with luatex-r1188 and context-beta)
 
 
 The typescript from Hans at the end of this message works fine.
 Some questions for my understanding:
 - Why 2 \starttypescript-\stoptypescript sections, and not 1?

taste and acess to verbose fontname

 - What does \setups[font:fallback:serif] mean?

just grep for font:fallback in type*

 - What is \definetypeface for?

to make a collection out of font with diifferent styles

 - What is the meaning of each parameter of \definetypeface?

see mfonts.pdf

 - Why does the third \starttypescript only have one parameter and no
   [serif]?

lazynessa, after all, gamamond is a serif

 After playing around with the typescript, I got the following minmal
 typescript, that seems to give the same result:
 
 \starttypescript [urwgaramond]
\definefontsynonym [Serif]   [file:GaramondNo8-Reg]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBold]   [file:GaramondNo8-Med]
\definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [file:GaramondNo8-Ita]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [file:GaramondNo8-MedIta]
\definetypeface [\typescriptone] [] [serif] [\typescriptone]
 \stoptypescript
 \usetypescript[urwgaramond]
 \setupbodyfont[urwgaramond]
 
 I strongly believe, that Hans' typescript is better, could somebody explain
 why?

in a document with multiple fonts it may be handy to be able to say:

\definedfont[Garamond-Regular*default at 36pt]Some Big Title

 Cheers, Peter
 
 
 
 
 % engine=luatex
 \definefontfeature[complete][liga=yes,kern=yes,compose=yes,tlig=yes,trep=yes]
 
 \starttypescript [serif] [urwgaramond]
\setups[font:fallback:serif]
\definefontsynonym [Serif]   [Garamond-Regular]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBold]   [Garamond-Medium]
\definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [Garamond-Italic]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [Garamond-MediumItalic]
 \stoptypescript
 
 \starttypescript [serif] [urwgaramond]
\definefontsynonym [Garamond-Regular]  [file:GaramondNo8-Reg]
 [features=complete]
\definefontsynonym [Garamond-Medium]   [file:GaramondNo8-Med]
 [features=complete]
\definefontsynonym [Garamond-Italic]   [file:GaramondNo8-Ita]
 [features=complete]
\definefontsynonym [Garamond-MediumItalic] [file:GaramondNo8-MedIta]
 [features=complete]
 \stoptypescript
 
 \starttypescript [urwgaramond]
\definetypeface [\typescriptone] [rm] [serif] [urwgaramond] [default]
 \stoptypescript
 
 \usetypescript[urwgaramond]
 \setupbodyfont[urwgaramond]
 
 \starttext
 \rm\input knuth
 
 \it\input knuth
 
 \bf\input knuth
 
 \bi\input knuth
 \stoptext
 
 


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Re: [NTG-context] Letter module: Public version available

2008-04-24 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Peter Münster wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 22 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

   @Peter: You could take a look at letter-17.tex, I wrote a first version
 for page optimation of the output, feel free to change optimize.nle or
 to add additional methods.

  Hello Wolfgang,

  Again, thanks a lot for you great module!

  Yes, one day I'll change it, to use also vertical skips around subject
  line, date, opening, closing and signature, because the parskip alone is in
  general not enough.

  And of course, I'll send my changes back to you. I hope, we'll find your
  module in the next version of the ConTeXt-distribution !?

I will add it to http://minimals.contextgarden.net/current/modules/,
but there are some serious problems with modules application, so
filenames are completely messed up. I cannot add it until that has
been resolved.

Mojca
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[NTG-context] urgent reference problem (full path)

2008-04-24 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Hi,

my current project is set up like shown below.

A serious problem is the section-reference: while section numbering  
should be in general (text and TOC) without previous number, it must  
show the full path when referenced (otherwise nobody will find 2).

Is there help?


Thank you very much,

Steffen


\definehead[EbeneEins]  [chapter]

\setupsection[section-3][conversion=Characters,previousnumber=no]
\setupsection[section-4][conversion=Romannumerals,previousnumber=no]
\setupsection[section-5][conversion=numbers,previousnumber=no]
%
%\setupsection[section-3][conversion=Characters,previousnumber=yes]
%\setupsection[section-4][conversion=Romannumerals,previousnumber=yes]
%\setupsection[section-5][conversion=numbers,previousnumber=yes]

%\def\NummerGewStyle{\switchtobodyfont[rm,10pt] 
\setupinterlinespace[line=12pt]\mr}
\def\KapitelZweiCommand#1#2%
  {\vbox \bgroup
 \framed[align=middle,frame=off,offset=0pt,width=\textwidth] 
{Abschnitt  #1\blank [6pt]}%
 \framed[align=middle,frame=off,offset=0pt,width=\textwidth]{#2}%
   \egroup}
\setuphead[EbeneEins]
[header=empty,page=yes,command= 
\KapitelZweiCommand 
,style 
=,alternative=paragraph,before={\blank[24pt]},after={\blank[14pt]}]

\starttext
\EbeneEins{Eins}
\subsection{Zuerst}
\subsubsection{Test}
\subsubsection[MyRef]{Here reference test}
\subsubsection{Test}
\subsection{Danach}
\subsubsection{Test}
\subsubsection{Test}
\section{Zwei}
\subsection{Und dann}
\subsubsection{Test}
In \in[MyRef] % should be: Abschnitt 1 I.2
\stoptext




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Re: [NTG-context] letter

2008-04-24 Thread Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini
 have you called luatools --generate because this is neccesary
 for MkIV to let it find new files in your TeX tree.

Ok! I have learned this now. Is this a replacement or an additive to 
mktexlsr?

Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] \indenting[next] and math = no vertical space before the formula

2008-04-24 Thread Mikael Persson
Dear all,

I have a problem with \indenting[next] combined with math formulas.
Look at the example below. The space between the text above the
formula and the formula is way to small. This goes away if I change
next to for example yes.

Btw, this happens on my TeXLive 2007 on ubuntu at home, my ConTeXt
minimal from 2007-04-03 at work and on live.contextgarden.net (with
pdfTeX but not LuaTeX).

Do I misuse the indenting macros?

Thanks, Micke P

% test file
\setupindenting[yes,small]
\indenting[next]

\starttext
Hello World! This is just some dumb text to show the problem.
\startformula
a=b
\stopformula
Goodbye World! The space below the formula is OK.
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] GNU Emacs - Context Command Reference

2008-04-24 Thread Gour
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Suno However, since I am a big GNU Info fanboy -- I love to not leave
Suno Emacs while writing Context source etc. -- I was looking for
Suno something faster than fiddling around with some PDF manual
Suno respectively the on-line command reference. I am now using [1]
Suno which works quite nice [2] ...

Heh, same here...I'd like to have all docs available in emacs...

iirc, Patrick spoke sometime ago that he might update etexshow...


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Re: [NTG-context] urw garamond typescript

2008-04-24 Thread Peter Münster
On Thu, Apr 24 2008, Hans Hagen wrote:

  - What is the meaning of each parameter of \definetypeface?
 
 see mfonts.pdf

There are examples, but I didn't find an explanation of the parameters.
If I understand right, theses are synonyms:
rm - serif
ss - sans
tt - mono
mm - math

I'm trying to reduce redundancy, and indeed this works very well:

\definetypeface [\typescriptone] [] [serif] []

(This works too: \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [XXX] [serif] [YYY] )


In the end, I come up with the following typescript:

\starttypescript [urwgaramond]
  \setups[font:fallback:serif]
  \definefontsynonym [Serif] [Garamond-Regular]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [Garamond-Medium]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic]   [Garamond-Italic]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic]   [Garamond-MediumItalic]
  \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Regular]  [file:GaramondNo8-Reg]
  \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Medium]   [file:GaramondNo8-Med]
  \definefontsynonym [Garamond-Italic]   [file:GaramondNo8-Ita]
  \definefontsynonym [Garamond-MediumItalic] [file:GaramondNo8-MedIta]
  \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [] [serif] []
\stoptypescript
\usetypescript[urwgaramond]
\setupbodyfont[urwgaramond]

Is this clean, or do you see any problems?

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Re: [NTG-context] \indenting[next] and math = no vertical space before the formula

2008-04-24 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Mikael Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear all,

 I have a problem with \indenting[next] combined with math formulas.
 Look at the example below. The space between the text above the
 formula and the formula is way to small. This goes away if I change
 next to for example yes.

 Btw, this happens on my TeXLive 2007 on ubuntu at home, my ConTeXt
 minimal from 2007-04-03 at work and on live.contextgarden.net (with
 pdfTeX but not LuaTeX).

 Do I misuse the indenting macros?

 Thanks, Micke P

 % test file
 \setupindenting[yes,small]
 \indenting[next]

 \starttext
 Hello World! This is just some dumb text to show the problem.
 \startformula
 a=b
 \stopformula
 Goodbye World! The space below the formula is OK.
 \stoptext

I could reproduce the result and have also a fix but I don't know what
the correct
reults should be and other people like Aditya should decide if it makes sense
to change the current behaviour.

\def\startdisplaymath
  {\ifgridsnapping
 \beforedisplayspace
 \snapmathtogrid\vbox
 \bgroup
 \informulatrue
%\forgetall % breaks side floats
   \else
 \bgroup
 \parskip\formulaparskip % ! !
 \informulatrue
%\forgetall % otherwise backgrounds fail
 \ifdim\lastskip\zeropoint\else
   \par
   \ifvmode \ifdim\parskip\zeropoint\relax
 \whitespace \vskip-\parskip % kind of forces and cancels again
   \fi \fi
 \fi
 \doif\displaygridcorrection{-\v!top}{\kern-\strutht}% new,
currently only option/default
 \beforedisplayspace
 \par
 \ifvmode
   \ifindentfirstparagraph
 \verticalstrut
 \vskip-\struttotal
 \vskip-\baselineskip
   \fi
 \fi
   \fi
   $$\setdisplaydimensions
   \setpredisplaysize\lastlinewidth
   \startinnermath}

I added the \ifindentfirstparagraph test before the last skip
upwards is executed.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] urw garamond typescript

2008-04-24 Thread Peter Münster
On Thu, Apr 24 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

 \starttypescipt [mytypeface]
   \definetypeface [mytypeface] [ss] [sans] [...] [default]
 \stoptypescript

I try to ask better questions:
- The first argument to \definetypeface is the name of the typeface, right?
- Why do I need the second *and* the third arguments, they seem redundant
  to me?  (ss means always sans and so on)
- What is the meaning of the fourth argument, it seems that I don't need
  it?
- Same question for the fifth argument.


 If you use this typescript as bodyfont a sans style would be used
 instead of roman.
 

 Why this odd defintion I see now why why you have to enclose all synonyms
 within a typescript environment.

I don't have to, this works too:
\starttypescript [urwgaramond]
  \setups[font:fallback:serif]
  [...]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [urwgaramond]
  [...]
  \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [] [serif] []
\stoptypescript


 You will also loose the functionality to create a new font collcetion
 for your document with the serif garamond as serif typeface, palatino
 for math etc.

Next exercise for me: creation of a new font collection!
Could you suggest please, what fonts would fit nicely with garamond,
for ss, tt and mm?

Then I'll report back the font collection with garamond as main font.

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Re: [NTG-context] urw garamond typescript

2008-04-24 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Peter Münster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 24 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

  \starttypescipt [mytypeface]
\definetypeface [mytypeface] [ss] [sans] [...] [default]
  \stoptypescript

 I try to ask better questions:
 - The first argument to \definetypeface is the name of the typeface, right?

The first argument is what you as font name for \setupbodyfont.

 - Why do I need the second *and* the third arguments, they seem redundant
  to me?  (ss means always sans and so on)

AFAIK they are the command to switch from one style to another one,
e.g. \rm, \ss
but I wondered myself about this.

 - What is the meaning of the fourth argument, it seems that I don't need it?

The content is the name of the typescript you want to use for the font
collection,
take for example you are interested to combine different fonts for one document
to one collcetion.

\starttypescript [letter]
  \definetypeface [letter] [rm] [serif] [cambria] [default]
  \definetypeface [letter] [ss] [serif] [corbel] [default]
  \definetypeface [letter] [tt] [mono] [consolas] [default]
\stoptypescript

\usetypescript[letter]
\setupbodyfont[letter]

This is waht I use in my letter manual, I combine cambria as serif font,
corbel as sans font and consolas as mono font into the font collcetion letter.

Each of the three font is defined in a seperate typescript, the typescript for
the cambria font looks like

\starttypescript [serif] [cambria]
   ...
\stoptypescript

and the one for calibri

\starttypescripot [sans] [calibri]
  ...
\stoptypescript

 - Same question for the fifth argument.

Don't know, I though is has something to do with optical sizes but I never
tried anything else than default.

  If you use this typescript as bodyfont a sans style would be used
  instead of roman.

  Why this odd defintion I see now why why you have to enclose all synonyms
  within a typescript environment.

 I don't have to, this works too:
 \starttypescript [urwgaramond]
  \setups[font:fallback:serif]
  [...]
 \stoptypescript
 \starttypescript [urwgaramond]
  [...]
  \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [] [serif] []
 \stoptypescript

What do you use for [...] in the second typescript.

  You will also loose the functionality to create a new font collcetion
  for your document with the serif garamond as serif typeface, palatino
  for math etc.

 Next exercise for me: creation of a new font collection!
 Could you suggest please, what fonts would fit nicely with garamond,
 for ss, tt and mm?

I suggest palatino (mathpazo?) for math but this would be more a topic
for Hraban, you could try to use the luxi mono fonts for typewriter.

Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] MetaPost v1.003: graph package broken

2008-04-24 Thread Stephan Hennig
A note from the MetaPost developers:

We have noticed an incompatibility between the latest MetaPost v1.003
and the graph package.

Severity is considered high, since it prevents compilation of even the
most simple figures.  The problem is identified and a fix is under way.
 A workaround is not possible.

Users of the graph package should not update to MetaPost v1.003.
MetaPost versions 1.002 and prior are not affected.

Best regards,
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Re: [NTG-context] letter

2008-04-24 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini wrote:
   have you called luatools --generate because this is neccesary
   for MkIV to let it find new files in your TeX tree.
  
   Ok! I have learned this now. Is this a replacement or an additive to
   mktexlsr?

  hm, it could replace mktexlsr if needed; anyhow, in mkiv the kpse lib is
  not used at all, and as such mktexlsr is not used too

  in that respect luatools is the replacement for kpsewhich+mktexlsr as
  stand alone tools, but the same libs are used in mkiv which give sus
  more flexibility, speed, etc
[ot]
I usually make
$mktexlsr; luatools --generate
because i like/need  to see
ls-R
database.
Also,
while making modules i have discovered that pdftex is used again -- i
must investigate on this -- .

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Re: [NTG-context] urgent reference problem (full path)

2008-04-24 Thread Steffen Wolfrum

I don't know how the section number (with/without previous number) is  
build internally, but I hope there could be a hack, with ...

setupsection[...][previousnumber=yes]% so that referencing gets the  
full path

... but a section-design like previousnumber=no, made with ...

\setuphead[...][command=\PreviousNumberNo]


Could this be done?


Steffen



Am 24.04.2008 um 10:51 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:

 Hi,

 my current project is set up like shown below.

 A serious problem is the section-reference: while section numbering
 should be in general (text and TOC) without previous number, it must
 show the full path when referenced (otherwise nobody will find 2).

 Is there help?


 Thank you very much,

 Steffen


 \definehead[EbeneEins][chapter]

 \setupsection[section-3][conversion=Characters,previousnumber=no]
 \setupsection[section-4][conversion=Romannumerals,previousnumber=no]
 \setupsection[section-5][conversion=numbers,previousnumber=no]
 %
 %\setupsection[section-3][conversion=Characters,previousnumber=yes]
 %\setupsection[section-4][conversion=Romannumerals,previousnumber=yes]
 %\setupsection[section-5][conversion=numbers,previousnumber=yes]  

 %\def\NummerGewStyle{\switchtobodyfont[rm,10pt]
 \setupinterlinespace[line=12pt]\mr}
 \def\KapitelZweiCommand#1#2%
  {\vbox \bgroup
 \framed[align=middle,frame=off,offset=0pt,width=\textwidth]
 {Abschnitt  #1\blank [6pt]}%
 \framed[align=middle,frame=off,offset=0pt,width=\textwidth]{#2}%
   \egroup}
 \setuphead[EbeneEins]
 [header=empty,page=yes,command=
 \KapitelZweiCommand
 ,style
 =,alternative=paragraph,before={\blank[24pt]},after={\blank[14pt]}]

 \starttext
 \EbeneEins{Eins}
 \subsection{Zuerst}
 \subsubsection{Test}
 \subsubsection[MyRef]{Here reference test}
 \subsubsection{Test}
 \subsection{Danach}
 \subsubsection{Test}
 \subsubsection{Test}
 \section{Zwei}
 \subsection{Und dann}
 \subsubsection{Test}
 In \in[MyRef] % should be: Abschnitt 1 I.2
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Re: [NTG-context] (no subject)

2008-04-24 Thread richard . stephens
 I have consulted the manuals and even the source (core-con.tex) but I 
 cannot find a way of getting a three-letter month using the \date 
command.
 For example, I would like to display today's date as 23-Apr-08.  This 
 gives a short display suitable for use in a margin, but avoids the 
 confusion of American (04-23-08) vs English (23-04-08) ordering when 
using 
 numbers.
 Can anyone help?

These are available (sort of)

   \currentdate[day,--,{\monthshort\normalmonth},--,year] % lowercase

or

   \currentdate[day,--,{\MONTHSHORT\normalmonth},--,year] % uppercase


Thanks, Taco, that does the job for now. 
Now all we need is something called \Monthshort which puts the 
first letter in uppercase (Jan, Feb etc)!!!

Thanks,

Richard
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Re: [NTG-context] urw garamond typescript

2008-04-24 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

 AFAIK they are the command to switch from one style to another one,
 e.g. \rm, \ss
 but I wondered myself about this.

not really, since we also have hw (handwritten) and cg (calligraphy)

anyhow, sometimes i do map the ss to a serif or rm to sans; depends on 
how mixed your doc may be


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Re: [NTG-context] Date with three-letter month

2008-04-24 Thread richard . stephens
 I have consulted the manuals and even the source (core-con.tex) but I 
 cannot find a way of getting a three-letter month using the \date 
command.
 For example, I would like to display today's date as 23-Apr-08.  This 
 gives a short display suitable for use in a margin, but avoids the 
 confusion of American (04-23-08) vs English (23-04-08) ordering when 
using 
 numbers.
 Can anyone help?

These are available (sort of)

   \currentdate[day,--,{\monthshort\normalmonth},--,year] % lowercase

or

   \currentdate[day,--,{\MONTHSHORT\normalmonth},--,year] % uppercase

Best wishes,
Taco

Thanks Taco.  This does the job.  All I need now is a version (\Monthshort 
??) which puts the first
letter in uppercase, Jan , Feb, etc.

Thanks,

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Re: [NTG-context] urw garamond typescript

2008-04-24 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

  AFAIK they are the command to switch from one style to another one,
  e.g. \rm, \ss
  but I wondered myself about this.

 not really, since we also have hw (handwritten) and cg (calligraphy)

I know rm, ss, tt, mm, hw and cg but you write in the font manual it is
also possible to define own commands, is this possible for the short
command and if yes how.

 anyhow, sometimes i do map the ss to a serif or rm to sans; depends on
 how mixed your doc may be

Do you mean I could write \definetype [...] [rm] [sans] to get a sans font
with the \rm command.

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Re: [NTG-context] urw garamond typescript

2008-04-24 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

 AFAIK they are the command to switch from one style to another one,
 e.g. \rm, \ss
 but I wondered myself about this.
 not really, since we also have hw (handwritten) and cg (calligraphy)
 
 I know rm, ss, tt, mm, hw and cg but you write in the font manual it is
 also possible to define own commands, is this possible for the short
 command and if yes how.
 
 anyhow, sometimes i do map the ss to a serif or rm to sans; depends on
 how mixed your doc may be
 
 Do you mean I could write \definetype [...] [rm] [sans] to get a sans font
 with the \rm command.

indeed

rm ss etc are defined infont-ini and you can define more if needed

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Date with three-letter month

2008-04-24 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have consulted the manuals and even the source (core-con.tex) but I
 cannot find a way of getting a three-letter month using the \date
 command.
 For example, I would like to display today's date as 23-Apr-08.  This
 gives a short display suitable for use in a margin, but avoids the
 confusion of American (04-23-08) vs English (23-04-08) ordering when
 using
 numbers.
 Can anyone help?

 These are available (sort of)

   \currentdate[day,--,{\monthshort\normalmonth},--,year] % lowercase

 or

   \currentdate[day,--,{\MONTHSHORT\normalmonth},--,year] % uppercase

 Best wishes,
 Taco

 Thanks Taco.  This does the job.  All I need now is a version (\Monthshort
 ??) which puts the first
 letter in uppercase, Jan , Feb, etc.


See if this works (untested)

\unprotect
\setuplabeltext [\s!en] [\v!january  :\s!mnem=Jan.]
\setuplabeltext [\s!en] [\v!february :\s!mnem=Feb.]
\setuplabeltext [\s!en] [\v!march:\s!mnem=Mar.]
\setuplabeltext [\s!en] [\v!april:\s!mnem=Apr.]
\setuplabeltext [\s!en] [\v!may  :\s!mnem=May]
\setuplabeltext [\s!en] [\v!june :\s!mnem=Jun.]
\setuplabeltext [\s!en] [\v!july :\s!mnem=Jul.]
\setuplabeltext [\s!en] [\v!august   :\s!mnem=Aug.]
\setuplabeltext [\s!en] [\v!september:\s!mnem=Sep.]
\setuplabeltext [\s!en] [\v!october  :\s!mnem=Oct.]
\setuplabeltext [\s!en] [\v!november :\s!mnem=Nov.]
\setuplabeltext [\s!en] [\v!december :\s!mnem=Dec.]
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[NTG-context] metapsot vs. graphviz

2008-04-24 Thread Gour
Hi!

While writing some written assignments I have a need to draw some simple
diagrams.

Tried with Dia, but it's not superb. That's why I'm thinking about
learning some graphic programming language...

Anyone familiar with metapost  graphviz can write few words how the two
compare?

Any other suggestion?

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Re: [NTG-context] Fatal error: catcode push/pop mismatch. Fix this!

2008-04-24 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Hi,

luigi scarso wrote:
 hmm, new for me.
 
 Fatal error: catcode push/pop mismatch. Fix this!
 
 \wait=
 
 (sorry, no more info )

We are hoping for a hint about what input caused this ?

 This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.25.3-2008042217
 ConTeXt  ver: 2008.04.18 14:17 MKIV  fmt: 2008.4.22  int: english/english

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Re: [NTG-context] metapsot vs. graphviz

2008-04-24 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, Gour wrote:

 Hi!

 While writing some written assignments I have a need to draw some simple
 diagrams.

 Tried with Dia, but it's not superb. That's why I'm thinking about
 learning some graphic programming language...

 Anyone familiar with metapost  graphviz can write few words how the two
 compare?

Metapost is for drawing all kinds of graphics. It give you a very fine 
control on where to place objects, and is very well integrated with 
ConTeXt (your labels will be the same font as the rest of the document). 
With the new mplib, using metapost in ConTeXt is very fast (for me I do 
not notice any difference; with mkii it used to take aboud 3-4 sec).

Graphviz is good for automatic positioning of nodes. If you have a large 
number of nodes, it can figure out the best way to place them. There are 
different versions, dot (for directed graphs), circo (for circular 
graphs), neato (for undirected graphs), fps (uses a different model for 
undirected graphs). For most of the cases, the output is average: the node 
placement is very good, but then it is difficult to get tex to process the 
labels, it is limited in terms of color effects that you can get. I find 
it very hard to modify the output.

Graphiz does give metapost output, but I found it to be a bit akward to 
use. The good part about graphiz is that is very easy to learn, and for 
most cases the output is acceptable.

 Any other suggestion?

There is dot2tex, which a python script that converts from dot (graphviz) 
to tikz. I have not tried it, but from the examples it appears to remove 
all the drawbacks of integrated graphviz with tex. It is tailored towards 
integration with latex, but it should not be too hard to configure it for 
context.

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Re: [NTG-context] Fatal error: catcode push/pop mismatch. Fix this!

2008-04-24 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi,


  luigi scarso wrote:
   hmm, new for me.
  
   Fatal error: catcode push/pop mismatch. Fix this!
  
   \wait=
  
   (sorry, no more info )

  We are hoping for a hint about what input caused this ?
yes, I'm trying and error.
It disappears when I comment \protect that is at the end of a
stylesheet of mine.






   This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.25.3-2008042217
   ConTeXt  ver: 2008.04.18 14:17 MKIV  fmt: 2008.4.22  int: english/english

  Cheers,
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Re: [NTG-context] Fatal error: catcode push/pop mismatch. Fix this!

2008-04-24 Thread luigi scarso
Sorry, a bit more.

specials   : fdf loaded
) (./layout-electrolux-enh.tex
(/home/usr7/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-pre.tex)
color  : mpcmyk color space is supported
color  : mpspot color space is supported
color  : system rgb is global activated
interaction: active
(/home/usr7/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/type-pre.tex)
Underfull \hbox (badness 1) in paragraph at lines 696--696
 []| $\*12ptmmmarm*: I$$I$

Underfull \hbox (badness 1) detected at line 698
 []

Fatal error: catcode push/pop mismatch. Fix this!

\wait=


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Re: [NTG-context] urgent reference problem (full path)

2008-04-24 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't know how the section number (with/without previous number) is build
 internally, but I hope there could be a hack, with ...

 setupsection[...][previousnumber=yes]% so that referencing gets the full
 path

 ... but a section-design like previousnumber=no, made with ...

 \setuphead[...][command=\PreviousNumberNo]


 Could this be done?

I hope we get a better interface in the future.

\def\CurrentChapterNumber#1#2%
  {\countervalue{@@sesection-2}:#2}

\def\CurrentSectionNumber#1#2%
  {\countervalue{@@sesection-3}:#2}

\setuphead[chapter][command=\CurrentChapterNumber]
\setuphead[section][command=\CurrentSectionNumber]

\starttext
\chapter{text}
\section[label]{text}
\section{text}
\section{text}
\chapter{text}
\in{Section}[label]
\section{text}
\section{text}
\section{text}
\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] metapsot vs. graphviz

2008-04-24 Thread Gour
 Aditya == Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hello Aditya!


Aditya Metapost is for drawing all kinds of graphics. It give you a
Aditya very fine control on where to place objects, and is very well
Aditya integrated with ConTeXt (your labels will be the same font as
Aditya the rest of the document).  With the new mplib, using metapost
Aditya in ConTeXt is very fast (for me I do not notice any difference;
Aditya with mkii it used to take aboud 3-4 sec).

This is very nice feature...

Aditya Graphviz is good for automatic positioning of nodes. If you have
Aditya a large number of nodes, it can figure out the best way to place
Aditya them. There are different versions, dot (for directed graphs),
Aditya circo (for circular graphs), neato (for undirected graphs), fps
Aditya (uses a different model for undirected graphs). For most of the
Aditya cases, the output is average: the node placement is very good,
Aditya but then it is difficult to get tex to process the labels, it is
Aditya limited in terms of color effects that you can get. I find it
Aditya very hard to modify the output.

I will probably not deal with many modes, but having support for all
kinds of graphics is preferred.

Aditya Graphiz does give metapost output, but I found it to be a bit
Aditya akward to use. The good part about graphiz is that is very easy
Aditya to learn, and for most cases the output is acceptable.

But, as you wrote above, it is not a 'general' graphic package?

Aditya There is dot2tex, which a python script that converts from dot
Aditya (graphviz) to tikz. I have not tried it, but from the examples
Aditya it appears to remove all the drawbacks of integrated graphviz
Aditya with tex. It is tailored towards integration with latex, but it
Aditya should not be too hard to configure it for context.

Thanks a lot for your input.

It seems that metapost is not the most easy way, but considering that
luatex  context are future, it looks worth to sit  have metafun ;)


Sincerely,
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Re: [NTG-context] Date with three-letter month

2008-04-24 Thread richard . stephens
Aditya Mahajan wrote:
See if this works (untested)

\unprotect
\setuplabeltext [\s!en] [\v!january  :\s!mnem=Jan.]
\setuplabeltext [\s!en] [\v!february :\s!mnem=Feb.]
\setuplabeltext [\s!en] [\v!march:\s!mnem=Mar.]
\setuplabeltext [\s!en] [\v!april:\s!mnem=Apr.]
\setuplabeltext [\s!en] [\v!may  :\s!mnem=May]
\setuplabeltext [\s!en] [\v!june :\s!mnem=Jun.]
\setuplabeltext [\s!en] [\v!july :\s!mnem=Jul.]
\setuplabeltext [\s!en] [\v!august   :\s!mnem=Aug.]
\setuplabeltext [\s!en] [\v!september:\s!mnem=Sep.]
\setuplabeltext [\s!en] [\v!october  :\s!mnem=Oct.]
\setuplabeltext [\s!en] [\v!november :\s!mnem=Nov.]
\setuplabeltext [\s!en] [\v!december :\s!mnem=Dec.]
\protect

That's fantastic!  Thanks for that.

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Re: [NTG-context] \indenting[next] and math = no vertical space before the formula

2008-04-24 Thread Hans Hagen
Aditya Mahajan wrote:

 Hans, if you agree with Wolfgang's fix, I think it should be included in 
 core-mat.

i just wait till you send me a core-mat with fixes .. fixing whitespace 
is always a bit tricky ... test with/without whitespace as well as with 
grids

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Re: [NTG-context] Date with three-letter month

2008-04-24 Thread Peter Münster
On Thu, Apr 24 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks Taco.  This does the job.  All I need now is a version (\Monthshort 
 ??) which puts the first
 letter in uppercase, Jan , Feb, etc.

% engine=luatex
\startluacode
function Monthshort(m)
--  os.setlocale(fr_FR.utf8) -- just for testing...
tex.print(os.date(%b, os.time({day = 10, month = m, year = 2000})))
os.setlocale(C)
end
\stopluacode
\starttext
\ctxlua{Monthshort(\the\normalmonth)}
\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] Date with three-letter month

2008-04-24 Thread Hans Hagen
Peter Münster wrote:

 % engine=luatex
 \startluacode
 function Monthshort(m)
 --os.setlocale(fr_FR.utf8) -- just for testing...
   tex.print(os.date(%b, os.time({day = 10, month = m, year = 2000})))
   os.setlocale(C)
 end
 \stopluacode
 \starttext
 \ctxlua{Monthshort(\the\normalmonth)}
 \stoptext

beware with locales ... mkiv assumes no locale (basecilly kills it)

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Re: [NTG-context] \indenting[next] and math = no vertical space before the formula

2008-04-24 Thread Mikael Persson
Thank you Wolfgang, Aditya and Hans for your kind answers.

Today the new ubuntu was released, and I did upgrade. That was not too smart:

With the newer TeXLive in ubuntu 8.04 came an updated ConTeXt which
gave me the problem explained in
http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20070830.154143.005528b8.en.html
again.

Since I am finishing my PhD thesis and really want to use the
utopia+fourier fonts, I downgraded to an old ConTeXt minimal for now.
I have not managed to get Wolfgang's solution to work (just tried to
copy that definition to my file, and that did not change the vertical
space. I will try to make the change in core-mat.tex now). However,
some questions remain:

1) I also tried the new context minimal with LuaTeX  (to see if it
worked better there) and found out that the fourier fonts are not
included in the minimals anymore. Are there any plans to include them?
Or to make some kind of package with these and other nice free fonts?

2) Will the problem from
http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20070830.154143.005528b8.en.html
go away in the near future (of new versions)? From the answers to that
question I did not really get if the problem was a big one or not.

Best Regards, Micke P

PS I am impressed by the speed of LuaTeX. It compiled my document in
~20s instead of 1-2 minutes.

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Aditya Mahajan wrote:

   Hans, if you agree with Wolfgang's fix, I think it should be included in
   core-mat.

  i just wait till you send me a core-mat with fixes .. fixing whitespace
  is always a bit tricky ... test with/without whitespace as well as with
  grids

  Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Date with three-letter month

2008-04-24 Thread Peter Münster
On Thu, Apr 24 2008, Hans Hagen wrote:
 Peter Münster wrote:
 
  % engine=luatex
  \startluacode
  function Monthshort(m)
  --  os.setlocale(fr_FR.utf8) -- just for testing...
  tex.print(os.date(%b, os.time({day = 10, month = m, year = 2000})))
  os.setlocale(C)
  end
  \stopluacode
  \starttext
  \ctxlua{Monthshort(\the\normalmonth)}
  \stoptext
 
 beware with locales ... mkiv assumes no locale (basecilly kills it)

Indeed, I've already seen that: when setting the locale to fr_FR.utf8,
without resetting it to C just after the tex.print(), then I get this
error:
!luaTeX error (file 
/opt/TeX-live/texmf-dist/fonts/opentype/public/lm/lmroman12-regular.otf): 
Parsing CFF DICT failed. (error=-1)
 == Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!

(That's why I wrote just for testing...)

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Re: [NTG-context] \indenting[next] and math = no vertical space before the formula

2008-04-24 Thread Mikael Persson
First, thank you Wolfgang, I tried to change it in the core-mat.tex
and it looks great now!

   1) I also tried the new context minimal with LuaTeX  (to see if it
   worked better there) and found out that the fourier fonts are not
   included in the minimals anymore. Are there any plans to include them?
   Or to make some kind of package with these and other nice free fonts?

  mojca will look into it (out of reach, mail etc now) since it came up
  last week

sounds great!


   2) Will the problem from
   http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20070830.154143.005528b8.en.html
   go away in the near future (of new versions)? From the answers to that
   question I did not really get if the problem was a big one or not.

  depends on who wants to fix it -)


I don't know what to do (and I am not a programmer), but if there is
some monkey-see-monkey-do work, I am happy to help.


   PS I am impressed by the speed of LuaTeX. It compiled my document in
   ~20s instead of 1-2 minutes.

  Due to mplib or in general? Some parts of mkiv can still be sped up,
  e.g. xml processing, but there's not that much more to gain in font
  handling (that is ... we're playing with runtime mp fonts and there we
  can gain a lot when the new img related features show up). Also, some
  mechanisms will be reimplemented and  as such be sped up.

Hm, I hoped you would tell me why ;)
The document is a math document with a lot of references, 5 different
bibliographies. But no MetaPost graphics, just plain text + formulas.
It is about 100 pages at the moment. Could it maybe be the fact that I
am changing font? With LuaTeX I was using the lm fonts. I have a
feeling it takes a bit longer to load other fonts, but that might just
be a feeling from what is written in the terminal?

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Re: [NTG-context] Date with three-letter month

2008-04-24 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
 Indeed, I've already seen that: when setting the locale to fr_FR.utf8,
 without resetting it to C just after the tex.print(), then I get this
 error:
 !luaTeX error (file 
 /opt/TeX-live/texmf-dist/fonts/opentype/public/lm/lmroman12-regular.otf): 
 Parsing CFF DICT failed. (error=-1)
  == Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!

  Interesting :-)  I suppose some of the strings are localized (like,
decimal points being replaced by decimal commas).  I already had that
when writing a small script to output PDF by hand.

  To be precise, on Mac OS 10.5 I need “fr_FR.UTF-8” to reproduce this
behaviour, not “fr_FR.utf8” which looks a bit suspicious.  I have
already heard that the French version of some mainstream Linux
distribution (Ubuntu, I think) set locales to the absurd value
“français”, which was a problem not only because it was absolutely not
standard, but also because the system couldn't guess what encoding the
‘ç’ was in!

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Re: [NTG-context] \indenting[next] and math = no vertical space before the formula

2008-04-24 Thread Hans Hagen
Mikael Persson wrote:
 First, thank you Wolfgang, I tried to change it in the core-mat.tex
 and it looks great now!
 
   1) I also tried the new context minimal with LuaTeX  (to see if it
   worked better there) and found out that the fourier fonts are not
   included in the minimals anymore. Are there any plans to include them?
   Or to make some kind of package with these and other nice free fonts?

  mojca will look into it (out of reach, mail etc now) since it came up
  last week
 
 sounds great!
 
   2) Will the problem from
   http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20070830.154143.005528b8.en.html
   go away in the near future (of new versions)? From the answers to that
   question I did not really get if the problem was a big one or not.

  depends on who wants to fix it -)

 
 I don't know what to do (and I am not a programmer), but if there is
 some monkey-see-monkey-do work, I am happy to help.
 
   PS I am impressed by the speed of LuaTeX. It compiled my document in
   ~20s instead of 1-2 minutes.

  Due to mplib or in general? Some parts of mkiv can still be sped up,
  e.g. xml processing, but there's not that much more to gain in font
  handling (that is ... we're playing with runtime mp fonts and there we
  can gain a lot when the new img related features show up). Also, some
  mechanisms will be reimplemented and  as such be sped up.
 
 Hm, I hoped you would tell me why ;)
 The document is a math document with a lot of references, 5 different
 bibliographies. But no MetaPost graphics, just plain text + formulas.
 It is about 100 pages at the moment. Could it maybe be the fact that I
 am changing font? With LuaTeX I was using the lm fonts. I have a
 feeling it takes a bit longer to load other fonts, but that might just
 be a feeling from what is written in the terminal?

mkiv needs less fonts but they may be bigger (more glyphs)

at the end of a run you see the statistics, just write them down 
occasionally so that we can see the improvements

other reasons can be that some mem bugs have been removed over time adn 
that mkiv share more data, so that overall less memory is needed which 
in turn gives less garbage collection

try adding

\usemodule[timing]

to the top of the doc and one or more


\ShowUsage  {}
\ShowMemoryUsage{}
\ShowNodeUsage  {}

at the end ... it generates some pictures that show what takes most time


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Re: [NTG-context] question about mplib/mkiv

2008-04-24 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Apr 24, 2008, at 8:38 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

 That error indeed comes from mplib, but from the overflow test in
 realloc(), not the memory array overflow function. You get this
 error when you attempt to allocate more than 2^31 bytes. Since that
 clearly should not happen, there is a bug somewhere in MPlib. But
 I'll need your source to dig it out. (likely you do something we
 have never tested yet).


Just for the record: Taco found and squished this bug; the new luatex  
trunk doesn't have it anymore. Thanks for the swift action!

Best

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Re: [NTG-context] Date with three-letter month

2008-04-24 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
 Indeed, I've already seen that: when setting the locale to fr_FR.utf8,
 without resetting it to C just after the tex.print(), then I get this
 error:
 !luaTeX error (file 
 /opt/TeX-live/texmf-dist/fonts/opentype/public/lm/lmroman12-regular.otf): 
 Parsing CFF DICT failed. (error=-1)
  == Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!
 
   Interesting :-)  I suppose some of the strings are localized (like,
 decimal points being replaced by decimal commas).  I already had that
 when writing a small script to output PDF by hand.

Just about all string-to|from-float C functions (like strtod, scanf,
atof, printf) and even the string-to|from-integer ones (strtol, scanf),
are automatically influenced by the locale.  The same is true for all
tests like isspace() and isalpha(). It is intended to be helpful,
but as a programmer I simply hate it.

Cheers, Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] question about mplib/mkiv

2008-04-24 Thread Hans Hagen
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
 On Apr 24, 2008, at 8:38 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
 
 That error indeed comes from mplib, but from the overflow test in
 realloc(), not the memory array overflow function. You get this
 error when you attempt to allocate more than 2^31 bytes. Since that
 clearly should not happen, there is a bug somewhere in MPlib. But
 I'll need your source to dig it out. (likely you do something we
 have never tested yet).

 
 Just for the record: Taco found and squished this bug; the new luatex  
 trunk doesn't have it anymore. Thanks for the swift action!

the next mkiv upload will have a bit better reporter for such cases


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Re: [NTG-context] Date with three-letter month

2008-04-24 Thread Hans Hagen
Taco Hoekwater wrote:
 Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
 Indeed, I've already seen that: when setting the locale to fr_FR.utf8,
 without resetting it to C just after the tex.print(), then I get this
 error:
 !luaTeX error (file 
 /opt/TeX-live/texmf-dist/fonts/opentype/public/lm/lmroman12-regular.otf): 
 Parsing CFF DICT failed. (error=-1)
  == Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!
   Interesting :-)  I suppose some of the strings are localized (like,
 decimal points being replaced by decimal commas).  I already had that
 when writing a small script to output PDF by hand.
 
 Just about all string-to|from-float C functions (like strtod, scanf,
 atof, printf) and even the string-to|from-integer ones (strtol, scanf),
 are automatically influenced by the locale.  The same is true for all
 tests like isspace() and isalpha(). It is intended to be helpful,
 but as a programmer I simply hate it.

why not completely remove locatel then ... probably also faster

btw, nilling the locale is done in mkiv:

os.setlocale(nil,nil) -- useless feature and even dangerous in luatex

one of the first lines of lua i wrote -)

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] GNU Emacs - Context Command Reference

2008-04-24 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hi,

 Heh, same here...I'd like to have all docs available in emacs...

 iirc, Patrick spoke sometime ago that he might update etexshow...

I am not going to promise anything, but the whole texshow family will be 
refurbished. Perhaps even the black sheep etexshow :).

Patrick
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Re: [NTG-context] Date with three-letter month

2008-04-24 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
 why not completely remove locatel then ... probably also faster

  There would certainly be many reasons to do so ... if anything,
because ConTeXt has its own “localization” system.

 btw, nilling the locale is done in mkiv:
 
 os.setlocale(nil,nil) -- useless feature and even dangerous in luatex
 
 one of the first lines of lua i wrote -)

  I trust you did ;-)

Arthur
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Re: [NTG-context] GNU Emacs - Context Command Reference

2008-04-24 Thread Suno Ano
 | On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:53:22 +0200,
 | Patrick Gundlach
 | from the organization of chaos
 | who can be reached at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | (whose comments are cited below with  Patrick ),
 | had this to say in article [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | in newsgroups gmane.comp.tex.context
 | concerning the subject of Re: GNU Emacs - Context Command Reference
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 Patrick I am not going to promise anything, but the whole texshow
 Patrick family will be refurbished.
Ohhh ... I like how that one sounds :-)

Packaging however is another issue -- being able to apt-getting it might
be awesome. Afaik there is no Debian repository around now that provides
it.

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