Re: [NTG-context] zero padding with itemize
And 9? Best
\starttext
\def\mypaddednumber#1{\ifnum#110 0\fi\number#1\relax}
\defineconversion[pn] [\mypaddednumber]
\startitemize[pn,broad]
\item oeps
\item oeps
\item oeps
\stopitemize
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] zero padding with itemize
Hi Carlos,
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 8:37 AM, Carlos Breton Besnier
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And 9? Best
What do you mean, I didn't understand your questions.
Wolfgang
\starttext
\def\mypaddednumber#1{\ifnum#110 0\fi\number#1\relax}
\defineconversion[pn] [\mypaddednumber]
\startitemize[pn,broad]
\item oeps
\item oeps
\item oeps
\stopitemize
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] zero padding with itemize
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Peter Münster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Jun 08 2008, Hans Hagen wrote:
If yes, how? And if no, where is the magic point, where I could apply a
patch (if it's not too difficult ;)
has always been possible ...
\starttext
\def\mypaddednumber#1{\ifnum#19 0\fi\number#1\relax}
\defineconversion[pn] [\mypaddednumber]
So the \defineconversion is the magic point I could not find (I only
searched in core-itm.tex ...).
This is described in ConTeXt the manual, page 216:
The symbols used under 1 to 8 can be defined with the command
\definesymbol and the conversion of the numbering with \defineconversion
Thanks a lot!
Peter
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] zero padding with itemize
2008/6/8, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Peter Münster wrote:
Hello,
Is it already possible to get 0 padding with \startitemize:
01
02
03
and so on ?
If yes, how? And if no, where is the magic point, where I could apply a
patch (if it's not too difficult ;)
has always been possible ...
\starttext
\def\mypaddednumber#1{\ifnum#19 0\fi\number#1\relax}
\defineconversion[pn] [\mypaddednumber]
\startitemize[pn,broad]
\item oeps
\item oeps
\item oeps
\stopitemize
\stoptext
And 9?
Best
\def\mypaddednumber#1{\ifnum#110 0\fi\number#1\relax}
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Re: [NTG-context] TeXCalc
Thanks for your replies. Hans' suggestion worked. As for... [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Bureau$ ./texcalc [1] 16901 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Bureau$ I don't understand a thing about it. It's like klingon to me. ;O) Nevertheless, I'm curious. Where do you input that ? FYI, I'm on Windows. Alan On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:54 PM, Michael Hallgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le mercredi 11 juin 2008 à 20:28 +0200, Alan Stone a écrit : I downloaded Taco's TeXCalc script at http://tex.aanhet.net/utils/texcalc and installed the required perlTk thingie. Newbie question... How do you run this silly script (*) ? Using ActivePerl and sciTE. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Bureau$ ./texcalc [1] 16901 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Bureau$ unless you prefer to add it to your PATH. Cheers, mh Thanks, Alan (*) No, no it's not me who said it first... Taco wrote it himself ! ;O) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] fontscript for delicious?
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:38 AM, Uwe Koloska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Wolfgang, mmmh, very curious. Today I wasn't able to reproduce the problems I have had yesterday ... Everything works exactly as you said with no changes to your files. So I revoke and argue the converse. Am Mittwoch, 11. Juni 2008 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: I tested it now on my own system and it worked for me. ConTeXt: MtxRun | main context file: C:/tex/share/texmf-local/tex/context/base/context.tex MtxRun | current version: 2008.06.07 23:44 context --version MtxRun | main context file: /home/koloska/context-minimal/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex MtxRun | current version: 2008.06.03 19:55 but with context, I was not able to compile the file, cause there are the tfm-files missing. What's with mtxrun --script context delicious and texexec --lua delicious, messages for tfm files should come with pdfTeX. LuaTeX: This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.25.3-2008060811 ... This is build 1309, created on 20080608T112701Z luatex --version This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.25.3-2008052302 ... This is build 0, created on 20080410T143312Z Compiled with libpng 1.2.15; using libpng 1.2.15 Compiled with zlib 1.2.3; using zlib 1.2.3 Compiled with xpdf version 3.01 XeTeX: XeTeX 3.1415926-2.2-0.999.1 (Web2C 7.5.6) xetex --version XeTeX 3.1415926-2.2-0.998.5-dev (Web2C 7.5.6) 1. The interface for the \definefontsynonym command seems to have changed: There is no third parameter -- this one [features=default] end up in the document as text. Makes no sense because you need the third parameter to define smallcaps if you don't have a seperate font but select it as OpenType feature. Kerning, ligatures etc. are enabled with the features parameter too. No idea, what was wrong ... The third parameter was included as normal text in the resulting pdf. 2. To load the typescript, the command is not \usetypefile [delicious] but \usetypescriptfile [type-delicious] Why did it not work for you, do you get a error message or is the file not loaded, give us more information, ConTeXt version, LuaTeX version, log files ... I've got an error that the command doesn't matches it's definition. This works today without problems, too ... I'm on linux and have installed the context minimal with the help of first-setup.sh on 2008-06-07. So, thank you for your help! The next time I get any curious result, I will save the logfiles ;-) Uwe Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] distro info
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 3:22 AM, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:37:11 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: David wrote: On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:34:15 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: Andrea Valle wrote: Hmm, with Luatex I can use system fonts like in XeTeX. Am I right? yes, if you set up OSFONTDIR I would like to set up OSFONTDIR, but I don't know how or where or when to do so. I've tried setting it in my bash profile, and that seems to have no effect. What is the correct procedure? (I'm on a Mac, if it matters.) we can consider setting it up automatically but that can only be done when it's a stable location Well, that would be excellent from my point of view, of course. But my question is much more simple: I only want to know, where and when do I type OSFONTDIR=...? I've read many times that in order to use it I need to set it up, but I actually don't know what set it up means in this situation. It's a system variable. Under Linux you can set it up in your /home/YOUR_NICKNAME/.bashrc file, adding : export OSFONTDIR=THE_PATH_TO_YOUR_FONT_DIR At the end of the file. There's certainly the same under Mac. Olivier. -- [Message tapé sur un clavier Bépo : http://www.clavier-dvorak.org ] Olivier [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nemolivier.blogspot.com ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] TeXCalc
Le jeudi 12 juin 2008 à 09:27 +0200, Alan Stone a écrit : Thanks for your replies. Hans' suggestion worked. As for... [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Bureau$ ./texcalc [1] 16901 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Bureau$ I don't understand a thing about it. It's like klingon to me. ;O) Nevertheless, I'm curious. Where do you input that ? FYI, I'm on Windows. Sorry, my excuses. That's the way you would do if you were using a Unix alike system. Cheers, mh Alan On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:54 PM, Michael Hallgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le mercredi 11 juin 2008 à 20:28 +0200, Alan Stone a écrit : I downloaded Taco's TeXCalc script at http://tex.aanhet.net/utils/texcalc and installed the required perlTk thingie. Newbie question... How do you run this silly script (*) ? Using ActivePerl and sciTE. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Bureau$ ./texcalc [1] 16901 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Bureau$ unless you prefer to add it to your PATH. Cheers, mh Thanks, Alan (*) No, no it's not me who said it first... Taco wrote it himself ! ;O) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] bibl-apa.tex wrong?
Hi, For all of you out there that wnat to help set up the new bibl-apa.tex, I have uploaded an experimental version of the bib module to the garden. http://modules.contextgarden.net/bib It already has some improvements, but it is (probably) not done yet. Corrections are welcome, either in tex source patches or as output specifications for particular bbl entries. Best wishes, Taco Taco Hoekwater wrote: David wrote: The 5th edition of the APA Publication Manual is unambiguous on this point. Section 4.14, page 230, states: (note, I have transcribed their table of examples into plain text for easier reading in email) Thanks a lot. I will wait a few days before releasing an updated version, in case someone find more issues, but there will be a new release about a week from now. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] distro info
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Olivier Guéry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 3:22 AM, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:37:11 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: David wrote: On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:34:15 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: Andrea Valle wrote: Hmm, with Luatex I can use system fonts like in XeTeX. Am I right? yes, if you set up OSFONTDIR I would like to set up OSFONTDIR, but I don't know how or where or when to do so. I've tried setting it in my bash profile, and that seems to have no effect. What is the correct procedure? (I'm on a Mac, if it matters.) we can consider setting it up automatically but that can only be done when it's a stable location Well, that would be excellent from my point of view, of course. But my question is much more simple: I only want to know, where and when do I type OSFONTDIR=...? I've read many times that in order to use it I need to set it up, but I actually don't know what set it up means in this situation. It's a system variable. Under Linux you can set it up in your /home/YOUR_NICKNAME/.bashrc file, adding : export OSFONTDIR=THE_PATH_TO_YOUR_FONT_DIR At the end of the file. There's certainly the same under Mac. On Mac that would mean putting export OSFONTDIR=$HOME/Library/Fonts:/Library/Fonts:/System/Library/Fonts to ~/.bash_profile, but since yesterday that is not needed any more unless you keep your fonts at some exotic locations. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] distro info
The fact IMHO is that there's a potentially large base of ConTeXt users which are willing to learn the syntax but are scared about terminals, setting paths etc (well, me too: knowing substantially nothing of unix I'm never comfortable with unix aspects of my system) So, an installer is really welcome. Best -a- On 11 Jun 2008, at 22:43, Jesse Alama wrote: I second Andrea's opinion -- I'm also looking forward to a straightforward way of updating ConTeXt and kin. I'm comfortable with ctxtools --updatecontext, but much less comfortable updating binaries and fonts, based on my experience screwing up my installation; a nice Mac OS X interface to deal with all these would be great. How about allowing installation of modules from http://modules.contextgarden.net, too? (I admit that there's probably a good deal of FUD here on my part and it's not as complicated as I think it is. My guess, though, is that I'm not alone.) Jesse Andrea Valle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wow, much needed. Looking forward to see it. Best -a- On 11 Jun 2008, at 18:05, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Andrea Valle wrote: Hi Oliver, I've already assembled a working ConTeXt package based on the minimals that installs via the Apple installer. In other words, it will provide the same seamless installation experience to the user as known from the MacTeX package and, in fact, as known from any decent Mac software. Fantastic. Exactly what I need. But will you include TeXShop? You can use the existing TeXShop or any other editor. Besides that, in summer or autumn a new cross-platform editor by Jonathan Kew will be available. Will the tex file system be local (i.e. separated from the usual locations) ? You will be able to use PreferencePane to select whether you want to use MacTeX or ConTeXt minimals (and which version), and that will be done globally. /usr/texbin will be a symlink to binaries. Mojca _ __ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/ listinfo/ ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net _ __ -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Think of it as seasoning . noise [salt] is boring . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty (Ken Perlin on noise) _ __ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net _ __ -- Jesse Alama ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) __ _ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net __ _ -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Think of it as seasoning . noise [salt] is boring . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty (Ken Perlin on noise) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net
Re: [NTG-context] TeXCalc
That's the way you would do if you were using a Unix alike system. Mama mia ! That definitely doesn't motivate me to switch to something Unix-ish. Forgive me, I'm a simple soul. ;O) Good you've put it here for future reference nevertheless. Best, Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Where is the fonts Directory of OpenSuse?
Can someone tell me please where the fonts directory of OpensSuse 10.3 (Kde) lies, so I can add my fonts to my bash profile? Thanks for your help. Armando ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] TeXCalc
Thanks Mojca. For future reference, on how to proceed: http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000549.htm http://vlaurie.com/computers2/Articles/environment.htm or google (with quotes): windows xp +path Alan On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Alan Stone wrote: That's the way you would do if you were using a Unix alike system. Mama mia ! That definitely doesn't motivate me to switch to something Unix-ish. Forgive me, I'm a simple soul. ;O) On Windows you can create a file texcalc.bat with contents perl C:\path-to-texcalc\texcalc.pl and put it somewhere into PATH. Then, you will be able to call texcalc from console. If you want it in Start Menu, I guess that you can simply put a link to that bat file (or copy that bat file there). Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Rendering of ZWNJ and ZWJ
On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 06:32:13PM -0600, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: Hi Hans, On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:45:10 -0600, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Khaled Hosny wrote: Using Luatex engine, ZWNJ and ZWJ chars are rendered incorrectly. If the font has a glyph for it, it does the expected behaviour (force non-joining or joining respectively) but the glyph get rendered while it shouldn't. But if the font has no glyphs for it, it has no effect at all. See the attached example. i uploaded a beta after analyzing i now remove the joiners Not sure if this is the best approach: Despite what MS Typography says, I think it's important to maintain the joiner info after analysis. If I select text from a pdf, the joiner info should be there. This is important for, eg, switching from Arabic-language to Farsi-language typography. So If I select some pdf text formatted according to Farsi rules, I should be able to save that text with the rules included. Can this be made an option, so fonts that contain zwj zwnj are not affected? Well, I've very little ConTeXt knowledge to actually understand this. My main point was that non-printable formatting characters like ZWNJ, ZWJ should be font independent i.e. when I insert a ZWNJ it inhibits the joining of Arabic letters without being printed, the font having or not having a glyph for it shouldn't affect this. In the other hand, it should be their so that when I copy the text I get it (since it is part of the input and has semantical value). Is this what we have here? Regards, Khaled -- Khaled Hosny Arabic localizer and member of Arabeyes.org team signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Rendering of ZWNJ and ZWJ
Khaled Hosny wrote: On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 06:32:13PM -0600, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: Hi Hans, On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:45:10 -0600, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Khaled Hosny wrote: Using Luatex engine, ZWNJ and ZWJ chars are rendered incorrectly. If the font has a glyph for it, it does the expected behaviour (force non-joining or joining respectively) but the glyph get rendered while it shouldn't. But if the font has no glyphs for it, it has no effect at all. See the attached example. i uploaded a beta after analyzing i now remove the joiners Not sure if this is the best approach: Despite what MS Typography says, I think it's important to maintain the joiner info after analysis. If I select text from a pdf, the joiner info should be there. This is important for, eg, switching from Arabic-language to Farsi-language typography. So If I select some pdf text formatted according to Farsi rules, I should be able to save that text with the rules included. Can this be made an option, so fonts that contain zwj zwnj are not affected? Well, I've very little ConTeXt knowledge to actually understand this. My main point was that non-printable formatting characters like ZWNJ, ZWJ should be font independent i.e. when I insert a ZWNJ it inhibits the joining of Arabic letters without being printed, the font having or not having a glyph for it shouldn't affect this. In the other hand, it should be their so that when I copy the text I get it (since it is part of the input and has semantical value). Is this what we have here? i made them font independent in the sense that they need not be present in the font; however, the rendering is optional - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] context command and the bbl file
Hi all, I have a file with citations. Using: context myfile does not create the bbl file when needed (but reads it when it exists). texexec --lua myfile does the expected job. Is there a reason for that? -- Jean ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Where is the fonts Directory of OpenSuse?
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:11:18AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone tell me please where the fonts directory of OpensSuse 10.3 (Kde) lies, so I can add my fonts to my bash profile? Thanks for your help. Armando Fonts are usually under /user/share/fonts/, some distros (like debian) has a separate subdir truetype for TrueType fonts. Users may added fonts under ~/.fonts as well. -- Khaled Hosny Arabic localizer and member of Arabeyes.org team signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Where is the fonts Directory of OpenSuse?
Khaled Hosny wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:11:18AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone tell me please where the fonts directory of OpensSuse 10.3 (Kde) lies, so I can add my fonts to my bash profile? Thanks for your help. Armando Fonts are usually under /user/share/fonts/, some distros (like debian) has a separate subdir truetype for TrueType fonts. Users may added fonts under ~/.fonts as well. so: ~/.fonts;/usr/share/fonts/;/usr/share/fonts/truetype ? Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] color in drawoptions (mplib)
Taco Hoekwater wrote: -extra_endfig := ;draw _tt_p_; extra_endfig ; +extra_endfig := ;addto currentpicture also _tt_p_; extra_endfig; subtle ... fixed Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] context command and the bbl file
Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote: Hi all, I have a file with citations. Using: context myfile does not create the bbl file when needed (but reads it when it exists). texexec --lua myfile does the expected job. Is there a reason for that? i haven't implemented the intermediate run feature yet in mtx-context Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] color in drawoptions (mplib)
Hans Hagen schrieb: Taco Hoekwater wrote: -extra_endfig := ;draw _tt_p_; extra_endfig ; +extra_endfig := ;addto currentpicture also _tt_p_; extra_endfig; subtle ... fixed yep! works again. thank you! Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Where is the fonts Directory of OpenSuse?
Khaled Hosny wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 06:21:36PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: Khaled Hosny wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:11:18AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone tell me please where the fonts directory of OpensSuse 10.3 (Kde) lies, so I can add my fonts to my bash profile? Thanks for your help. Armando Fonts are usually under /user/share/fonts/, some distros (like debian) has a separate subdir truetype for TrueType fonts. Users may added fonts under ~/.fonts as well. so: ~/.fonts;/usr/share/fonts/;/usr/share/fonts/truetype ? I don't think this will work, since /usr/share/fonts and /usr/share/fonts/truetype have multiple subdirs (per package) that has the actuall fonts, does context look into subdirs as well or the top dir only. What about querying fontconfig about installed fonts (which I guess what XeTeX does under linux) this allows calling the font by the actual font name not filename. When you has run mtxrun --script font --reload that file will be consulted too. After than you can access fonts by name by using a name: prefix, so name:mynamedfont With mtxrun --script font --list you can see what fontnames are accepted. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] color in drawoptions (mplib)
Peter Rolf wrote: hi, just encountered an expansion problem with color inside drawoptions... The patch below fixes this issue. Best wishes, Taco --- /opt/tex/texmf-local/metapost/context/base/mp-mlib.mp.orig 2008-05-12 12:14:46.0 +0200 +++ /opt/tex/texmf-local/metapost/context/base/mp-mlib.mp 2008-06-12 18:13:34.785337518 +0200 @@ -26,7 +26,7 @@ _tt_p_ := nullpicture ; enddef ; -extra_endfig := ;draw _tt_p_; extra_endfig ; +extra_endfig := ;addto currentpicture also _tt_p_; extra_endfig; extra_beginfig := extra_beginfig resettextexts;; vardef rawtextext(expr str) = ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] context command and the bbl file
Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote: Hi all, I have a file with citations. Using: context myfile does not create the bbl file when needed (but reads it when it exists). texexec --lua myfile does the expected job. Is there a reason for that? Simply missing code. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How could a typesetting system be today? (slightly off-topic, flame and nostalgic)
Maurício wrote: used ‘ϕ’ in a math formula for one of his papers and Context it showing up depends on what you use (mkii or mkiv), if the character is defined, if the font has it (in text mode) etc etc could not open it, since it was a PDF revision 1.8 instead of 1.3 indeed a future version -) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How could a typesetting system be today? (slightly off-topic, flame and nostalgic)
Do you mean like Scrivener on the Mac? I don’t know. I tried Context, then TeX, than went back to Context. Now also Metapost. Sorry for beeing biased, but I really like the programer approach to computers. What, in any case, constitutes a universal layout approach? Does one exist? (...) I don’t think we need something universal. But there is a lot of common guidelines for most things. For instance, text, music, chess boards and pictures all have to fit or fill their place in a page, and all can have a common main font to be used. Yet he (...) sees the value of maintaining a knowledge base that is predictable when it runs on a program that can pass the trip test. Actually, I’m trying to show my dad he can trust a computer to typeset his class notes, if we use the right tools (i.e., Context plus Metapost instead of what was used for his books in the 90’s, when just a small change would ruin everything). But I’ve just used ‘ϕ’ in a math formula for one of his papers and Context silently ignores it. I’m sure there's a good reason for that. But TeX is predictable when you write a default TeX style document. If you leave it, you have to understand a lot of hidden issues, and a dummy user like me will never know if all of them have been taken care of. Lose that for the sake of innovation, and you can lose real knowledge. And what shall we say for troff, which still possesses an arcane sort of longevity? Troff? I really miss the days of my old TK3000 text editor back in the 80’s. It's great to use 80% of your time thinking about what you want to write and 20% about typesetting. Today it's 4% writing, 2% typesetting and 94% looking over thousands of pages of wiki documentation. I still think Context is really great, but I’ll never try to do something that’s not done in a default installation again. Or try to understand why sometimes [n=x] works but [n = x] doesn’t. (...) you can be creating documents for all the world to see even if you are out in the bush with a generator and mosquito netting. I wrote my résume a few months ago, and sent it to a few companies, just to know a lot of time later that most of them could not open it, since it was a PDF revision 1.8 instead of 1.3 (or something like that). So TeX's stability has the interesting potential side effect of giving a voice to the voiceless. Our cast-off hardware becomes a window for freedom of speech and expression, (...) Sure. I would like to have something simpler than TeX, not more complex or hardware eater. There are places where people still go outside to relieve themselves, (...) Like myself :) Some folks think abstractly and can whack out macros like Paul Bunyan chops wood. Some think visually (...) I can only think abstractly. But TeX macros are a lot less abstract than they could be. I believe DEK says they were never supposed to be used the way they are. DEK (...) brought all his respect and research regarding longstanding, tried and true typographical traditions to his writing of TeX. Sure. You can’t miss that even if you understand nothing about typesetting (like myself). After using TeX for a while, it’s almost painfull to look at text printed by usual office tools. Maurício a écrit : Hi, Just because I'm curious: how could a typesetting system like TeX be if it was created today? I've tried google and wikipedia, and all I found different from TeX is a system called 'Lout', but it seems dead. (...) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] context command and the bbl file
Le 12 juin à 18:18:03 Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrit notamment: | Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote: | Hi all, | I have a file with citations. Using: | | context myfile does not create the bbl file when needed (but reads it | when it exists). | texexec --lua myfile does the expected job. | | Is there a reason for that? | Simply missing code. OK, that's better than a bug! Thanks -- Jean ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How could a typesetting system be today?
Thanks, Idris, for your interest. I don’t understand enough about typesetting and computer math to make an informed sugestion, but I’ll try my best. What about a Metapost-like main engine to define the general layout of pages? That engine would know about borders, floating spaces for pictures or text, and handle “global” information like main fonts or page numbers etc.; and even draw on the page. Plug-ins would render specific information. The main engine could also do Metapost-like operations on what comes from that rendering. That engine would call plug-ins to render anything, using a standard human-writable tag language. The engine will provide plug-ins a shape they should fill, as well as tips on how to fill it (“amount of ink”, how to deal with unconnected shapes, available fonts etc.); and share information with plug-ins so they can know, for instance, which symbols can be used for footnotes, and inform back which ones they have used. Plug-ins would respond rendered results, as well as indicators about how good is the result and what could be done to get it better (less or more to render, adjusts in their area shape etc.). Main engine and plug-ins would negociate good parameters, shapes and information set until they are both happy (enough). The reason for a standard tag language is that the main engine should be able to do some operations on data, like breaking it in pieces like words, paragraphs or staffs on music scores, sometimes without fully understanding what exactly those are. Possible outcomes: with a proper script language (Lua?), things like tables, multi-column text, and even a lot of crazy ideas could be really easy to write. Plug-ins results would be predictable, since they know nothing about the world except what the main engine has informed them. Best, Maurício Hi Maurício, Sorry to insist, but I would be really interested in approaches that are not just great things we could add to TeX. For instance: would it be possible to have some kind of “layout engine” to which text processing would be just one among other plug-ins? I wonder what kind of information that engine should share with plug-ins. Do you think such system is possible? Or something else? I would love to hear more of your thoughts on this. Don't hold back! Best wishes Idris ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
