[NTG-context] Attachment sizes

2008-12-15 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Hi all,

A quick note from your mailing list moderator.

The maximum message size for this list is 64KB. Because
pdf documents tend to be base64 encoded during email
transport, this means that you cannot attach PDFs
larger than approximately 40KB in file size.

Please, will you keep that in mind while sending mails
to ntg-context? Having to go through the moderation list
and manually forwarding messages people is tedious and
error prone.

We will not change the size limit because there are quite
a few people here on slow links. Besides, it will never
be large enough anyway.

When you do have a large file, please email it directly
to the target persion (offlist), or, if it is meant for
everybody, put it on a web or ftp site (if you have one)
or upload it to the wiki:

  http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Special:Upload


Thanks in advance,

Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] interactionbuttons question

2008-12-15 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Alan STONE wrote:
 Hi,
  
 Is it possible to make a column (a vertical alignment) of buttons with
 the interactionbuttons command ?

A simple solution could be \rotate[90], but that may look silly
depending on your style. Otherwise I guess you will have to do
the buttons by Hand, one at a time.

Best wishes,
Taco
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[NTG-context] about LuaTools | error unable to identify cnf file

2008-12-15 Thread Dalyoung Jeong

Dear Mojca,


texmfstart texexec --make (--xtx) --all run smoothly, but luatools
still has a cnf error.


Did you update the scripts in binaries as well? (Unless you updated
ConTeXt from TL repository, it will keep the old mtxrun in binaries,
and that one doesn't work at all.)

Mojca

I upgraded MacTeX using tlmgr updarw --all first. And then,
texhash
texmfstart texexec --make --all
texmfstart texexec --make --xtx --all

It's working good.

But, I try luatools --generate, then error messages are appreared.

luatools --generate

LuaTools | error unable to identify cnf file
LuaTools | error unable to identify cnf file
LuaTools | no cnf files found (TEXMFCNF may not be set/known)
LuaTools |
LuaTools | runtime: 0.002 seconds


Should I run .luatex(containing export $texmf= ... , etc) as before  
to set environment?


Thank you for your help.

Best regards,

Dalyoung
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Re: [NTG-context] looking for equivalence to LaTeX algorithm package

2008-12-15 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Zhaopeng Xing zpx...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Does anyone know how to describe algorithm procedures in similar way as
 LaTeX algorithmic and algorithm packages? I tried to search it on wiki but
 found nothing. Thanks.

xml based solution by Hans:

http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20050125.164829.e244f458.en.html

Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] markiv, output written on...

2008-12-15 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hi,

when I run a markiv file I don't get any message of the resulting pdf
file. Is this done on purpose?

I'd like to have a message that I can parse from textmate (to create a
hyperlink to the resulting pdf).

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Re: [NTG-context] about LuaTools | error unable to identify cnf file

2008-12-15 Thread Diego Depaoli
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Dalyoung Jeong hak...@mac.com wrote:
 Dear Mojca,

 texmfstart texexec --make (--xtx) --all run smoothly, but luatools

 still has a cnf error.
Stupid question... did you run/source setuptex before?

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Re: [NTG-context] context mascot

2008-12-15 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hi,

 Have we  a mascot ?

 http://chl.be/mascots/

 Yes we do. Its the dutch cow :-)

I thought that people in Bohinj more ore less agreed(*) that we don't want
any animals as a logo (except for your elephant, of course ;-)). Wasn't
this the reason, we tried hard to come up with a geometrically formed
context logo? 

(*) those two or three that were still awake :)

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Re: [NTG-context] on imposition and local or external files

2008-12-15 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hi,

 Sorry, but I don't understand the problem here. If people upload all 
 kinds of junk, why is this an issue? Or does ConteXt live show or store 
 data for other users than the uploader? I thought that it was not a 
 hosting or publishing service.

ConTeXt live does not store anything for more than a few minutes.

Patrick

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Re: [NTG-context] PDF page numbers

2008-12-15 Thread Mohamed Bana

Derek CORDEIRO wrote:
In latex + book/memoir + hyperref, if \frontmatter \mainmatter are used, 
the pdf files generated use the roman numbers in the pdf itself. It 
appears as ii (2 of 500) in the pdfviewer. Is it possible to do the same 
with ConTeXt?


It would be great if ConTeXt could.



Is there any introduction to using fonts(typefaces) in ConTeXt? I find 
myself stumbling on simple things(I'm a beginner). For example, the 
following works fine.


\usetypescriptfile[type-gyr]
\usetypescript[palatino]
\setupbodyfont[palatino,11pt]

but the following does not work.

\usetypescriptfile[type-gyr]
\usetypescript[schoolbook][ec]
\setupbodyfont[schoolbook,11pt]

I have tried with and older distribution of ConTeXt which comes along 
with Fedora 10 as well as with ConTeXt minimals. Incidentally if I use 
\definetypeface[schola][rm][serif][schola][default][encoding=t5] it 
works fine. What am I doing wrong?


Regards,
Derek




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Re: [NTG-context] context mascot

2008-12-15 Thread luigi scarso
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Patrick Gundlach patr...@gundla.ch wrote:

 Hi,

  Have we  a mascot ?
 
  http://chl.be/mascots/
 
  Yes we do. Its the dutch cow :-)

 I thought that people in Bohinj more ore less agreed(*) that we don't want
 any animals as a logo (except for your elephant, of course ;-)). Wasn't
 this the reason, we tried hard to come up with a geometrically formed
 context logo?

It's not a logo.
It's a mascot, like TeX lion,  linux penguin,  GNU gnu and so on .
Cow fonts was made from  Duane Bibby's illustrations ,as far I know,
so no doubt that they are in TeX tradition

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Re: [NTG-context] context mascot

2008-12-15 Thread Hans Hagen

Patrick Gundlach wrote:

Hi,


Have we  a mascot ?

http://chl.be/mascots/

Yes we do. Its the dutch cow :-)


I thought that people in Bohinj more ore less agreed(*) that we don't want
any animals as a logo (except for your elephant, of course ;-)). Wasn't
this the reason, we tried hard to come up with a geometrically formed
context logo? 


right: no mechandising of animals and no animals on covers of books -)

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Re: [NTG-context] context mascot

2008-12-15 Thread Hans Hagen

luigi scarso wrote:



On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Patrick Gundlach patr...@gundla.ch wrote:

Hi,

  Have we  a mascot ?
 
  http://chl.be/mascots/
 
  Yes we do. Its the dutch cow :-)

I thought that people in Bohinj more ore less agreed(*) that we
don't want
any animals as a logo (except for your elephant, of course ;-)). Wasn't
this the reason, we tried hard to come up with a geometrically formed
context logo?

It's not a logo.
It's a mascot, like TeX lion,  linux penguin,  GNU gnu and so on .
Cow fonts was made from  Duane Bibby's illustrations ,as far I know,
so no doubt that they are in TeX tradition


Sure, but that's just visual jokes; you're not advocating a real 
'pluche' animal are you? (hm, reminds me of this inflatable pig that the 
pink floyd guys use(d), a big inflatable cow floating above the context 
conference location)


Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] context mascot

2008-12-15 Thread luigi scarso
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:23 PM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

 Patrick Gundlach wrote:


 I thought that people in Bohinj more ore less agreed(*) that we don't want
 any animals as a logo (except for your elephant, of course ;-)). Wasn't
 this the reason, we tried hard to come up with a geometrically formed
 context logo?


 right: no mechandising of animals and no animals on covers of books -)


I must admit that martina particularly like O'REAILLY books for their covers
Every time that she is able to take one (i.e., every time that I'm not able
to stop her from
taking one) she says 'b', appartently happy to see a beautiful animal
(the book is then stressed to see if
this animal can come out from the cover, I suppose)

I don't know why 'b' (children have their little secrets);  BTW, 'b'
is much like 'm' .

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[NTG-context] distributed / parallel TeX?

2008-12-15 Thread Lars Huttar
Hello,

We've been using TeX to typeset a 1200-page book, and at that size, the
time it takes to run becomes a big issue (especially with multiple
passes... about 8 on average). It takes us anywhere from 80 minutes on
our fastest machine, to 9 hours on our slowest laptop.

So the question comes up, can TeX runs take advantage of parallelized or
distributed processing? As many in the computer industries are aware,
processor speed (clock rate) has plateaued; it is not going to continue
rising at the rate it had been. Hence the common move to dual-core,
quad-core, etc. machines. But applications in general cannot take
advantage of multiple cores to speed their work unless they are
architected to take advantage of them.

We googled around a bit but were surprised not to find any real
references to efforts at running TeX in parallel or on distributed
networks or clusters. Wouldn't this be something that a lot of people
would find useful? Or does everyone only use TeX for typesetting short
papers?

Sure, you can use manual tricks to speed up TeX processing.
You can comment out sections of a document, or select them via modes.
But then you have to remember where you did the commenting out, so you
can reverse it. And you have no guarantees as to whether the
inclusion/exclusion of section B will affect the layout of section C or not.

Wouldn't it be nice if TeX (or a TeX wrapper, or macro package, or
typesetting system) could take care of this for you?
What if you had a language -- or a few extensions to existing languages
-- to give your typesetting engine hints or commands about where to
split up your long document into fairly-independent chunks? What if you
designed your document specifically to be typeset in independent,
parallel pieces so that you could guarantee that you would get the same
result for section B whether or not you were typesetting the whole book
at the same time?
What if the typesetting system automated the stitching-back-together
process of the chunks, gathering page reference info from each chunk to
inform the next iteration of typesetting the other chunks?

Has anyone been working on this already? It seems like it must have been
discussed, but I don't know where to go to look for that discussion.

Thanks,
Lars

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Re: [NTG-context] context mascot

2008-12-15 Thread luigi scarso
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:27 PM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

 luigi scarso wrote:



 On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Patrick Gundlach patr...@gundla.ch
 wrote:

Hi,

  Have we  a mascot ?
 
  http://chl.be/mascots/
 
  Yes we do. Its the dutch cow :-)

I thought that people in Bohinj more ore less agreed(*) that we
don't want
any animals as a logo (except for your elephant, of course ;-)). Wasn't
this the reason, we tried hard to come up with a geometrically formed
context logo?

 It's not a logo.
 It's a mascot, like TeX lion,  linux penguin,  GNU gnu and so on .
 Cow fonts was made from  Duane Bibby's illustrations ,as far I know,
 so no doubt that they are in TeX tradition


 Sure, but that's just visual jokes; you're not advocating a real 'pluche'
 animal are you?

Well , actually I really appreciate a *real* dutch cow... martina needs milk
every morning...
BTW, no, I'm not advocate for a real pluche animal.

(hm, reminds me of this inflatable pig that the pink floyd guys use(d), a
 big inflatable cow floating above the context conference location)

Arrghh.. this pig (Animals album) created some problems to floyd..

On 3 December 1976, during the second day, a gust of wind broke the pig free
of its moorings. Because there was no one to shoot the pig down, it sailed
away into the morning sky. A passenger plane reported seeing the pig,
causing all the flights at London Heathrow
Airporthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Heathrow_Airportto be
delayed
[*citation needed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed*].
A police helicopter was sent up to track the pig, but was forced to return
after following the pig to an altitude of 5,000 feet. A warning was sent out
to pilots that a giant, flying pink pig was loose in the area[*citation
needed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed*]. The CAA
lost radar contact on the pig near Chatham in Kent, at a height of 18,000
feet and flying East. It finally landed in a farmer's field, without much
damage.
..:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animals_(album)

-- 
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[NTG-context] Dynamic frame height

2008-12-15 Thread Bart C. Wise
I'm trying to create a section at the bottom of a page that has a number of  
blank lines for writing notes.  However, I want the frame and the lines to be 
automatically generated from the remaining space on the page.  How do I 
control the number of lines and the frame height to achieve the desired 
results?

\starttext
\input tufte
\blank
\framed[
corner=00
]{
\vbox{
Notes:\crlf
\dorecurse{4}{\crlf\thinrule}
}}
\stoptext

Thanks,
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Re: [NTG-context] \hspace variations

2008-12-15 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
Thank you, Wolfgang, for your solution. Seems like \hspace cannot take 
numeric values at the moment, only predefined constants like big. 
Maybe it is reasonable to include your code below into context core files?


Meanwhile, I used \hskip 2cm, it worked fine.


I have some problems with \hspace. I try to insert it between two 
images, and this is what I get
1) \hspace{1cm} or \hspace1cm gives space  but writes 1cm betwen 
images;

2) \hspace[1cm] does not work at all
3) \hspace[big] works fine, but \hspace[2*big] does not

I want to get space twice as big, but how?

Hello,

\unprotect

\def\dodohspace[#1][#2]%
  {\def\dododohspace##1{\dodododohspace{#1}{##1}}%
   \ifhmode
 \removeunwantedspaces
 \dorepeatwithcommand[#2]\dododohspace
 \expandafter\ignorespaces
\fi}

\def\dodododohspace#1#2%
  {\hskip\hspaceamount{#1}{#2}}

\def\hspaceamount#1#2%
  {\executeifdefined{\??hs#1:#2}{\executeifdefined{\??hs:#2}{#2\relax}}}

\protect

\starttext

text \hspace[big] text

text \hspace[2*big] text

text \hspace[3*big] text

text \hspace[1cm] text

text \hspace[2cm] text

text \hspace[3cm] text

\stoptext


Best,
Vyatcheslav

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Re: [NTG-context] Dynamic frame height

2008-12-15 Thread Bart C. Wise
Thanks Wolfgang!
Bart

On Monday 15 December 2008 04:48:03 pm Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 Am 16.12.2008 um 00:29 schrieb Bart C. Wise:
  I'm trying to create a section at the bottom of a page that has a
  number of
  blank lines for writing notes. However, I want the frame and the
  lines to be
  automatically generated from the remaining space on the page. How do I
  control the number of lines and the frame height to achieve the
  desired
  results?
 
  \starttext
  \input tufte
  \blank
  \framed[
  corner=00
  ]{
  \vbox{
  Notes:\crlf
  \dorecurse{4}{\crlf\thinrule}
  }}
  \stoptext
  Thanks,
  Bart

 %\showframe

 \starttext

 \input tufte

 \blank

 \framed[corner=00,align=right,width=\textwidth]
{\getnoflines{\dimexpr\pagegoal-\pagetotal-2\lineheight\relax}%
 Notes:\crlf
 \thinrules[n=\noflines]}

 \stoptext

 Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] about LuaTools | error unable to identify cnf file

2008-12-15 Thread Dalyoung Jeong

Dear Diego,



Yes, in ConTeXt Minimals, LuaTeX is working well.

Now, I am testing LuaTeX in TL2008.
I hope that LuaTeX works in both environments. Too greedy?

However, I couldn't solve cnf problem yet. I may leave it for a while.

Thank you.

Best regards,

Dalyoung 
 
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[NTG-context] Some ligatures cannot be copied and pasted

2008-12-15 Thread Yue Wang
Hi,

see the attachment

Yue Wang


test.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document


test.tex
Description: TeX document
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Re: [NTG-context] markiv, output written on...

2008-12-15 Thread Yue Wang
and I also find that MKIV does not take terminal width into consideration.
(pdftex output has a max line length limit)

On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 4:08 AM, Patrick Gundlach patr...@gundla.ch wrote:
 Hi,

 when I run a markiv file I don't get any message of the resulting pdf
 file. Is this done on purpose?

 I'd like to have a message that I can parse from textmate (to create a
 hyperlink to the resulting pdf).

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