[NTG-context] FunnyFrame in an enumeration.

[Fabrice]

Hi,

	Playing with metafun, I saw the FunnyFrame example (page 239 MetaFun  
screen manual), where a framed is put around some paragraph and this  
frame has a small framed title inserted at the top of the framed  
paragraph. I would like to do a similar  output but in the context of  
an enumeration. I am able to obtain the main frame by a proper  
definition of  the \definenumeration, but not the title !


For clarity, a sample test file is provided below.

	I have tried to look in the mailing list for some examples  that can  
help me, but no luck ! Do you think this is something feasible ? I  
wouldl take any hint  !


Thanks,
Fabrice.



%[ The main code of this example came actullay from a thread in 2000  
by Hans.]

% http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/2929.130642.dc591d10.en.html

\setupcolors[state=start]

\def\FrameText#1%
{\startuseMPgraphic{FunnyFrame}
picture p ; numeric w, h, o ;
p := btex \strut#1 etex ;
w := \overlaywidth ;
h := \overlayheight ;
o := \the\bodyfontsize/2 ;
p := p shifted (4o,h-ypart center p) ; draw p ;
drawoptions (withpen pencircle scaled 1pt withcolor red) ;
draw (3o,h)--(0,h)--(0,0)--(w,0)--(w,h)--(xpart urcorner p+o,h) ;
draw boundingbox p enlarged(o,0) withcolor red ;
setbounds currentpicture to unitsquare xyscaled(w,h) ;
\stopuseMPgraphic}

\defineoverlay[FunnyFrame][\useMPgraphic{FunnyFrame}]

\defineframedtext[FunnyText][frame=off,background=FunnyFrame,width= 
\hsize]


\def\StartFrame#1{\FrameText{#1}\startFunnyText}
\def\StopFrame {\stopFunnyText }

\starttext

\StartFrame{A nice place for a title}
The value of variables inside this fence are isolated
from the values outside.
\StopFrame

\defineenumeration[Definition]
[width=fit,
before=\StartFrame{},
after=\StopFrame,
text={Definition}
]

\startDefinition
The text of the definition.  The sentence "{\bf Definition 1}" should  
be in the above small box.

\stopDefinition


\stoptext


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Re: [NTG-context] fullpage and XeTeX typescript

[Yue Wang]

Concerning the second question, the following is the reply from Hans
months ago to me.
I think Hans is right, since fonts are quite complex, but it *will* be
a lot easier if we have that mechanism since this mechanism will be
applicable to most fonts.
If there are fonts that fontconfig cannot handle well, then the user
can define them in the old way.:

Yue Wang wrote:

> last question: is it possible to add fontconfig-like interface? if I
> define to use minion famaily, then all the alternatives are
> automatically defined like xetex?

i never looked into that interface so i cannot comment on it, but i've
learned my lessons with fonts ... they are all different and any 'clever
automated mechanism' will at some point fail, so then one ends up with
exeptions; when defining a document style one needs to know the font,
its usage (what variants, styles, etc) and often also it slimitations
(font feature are not that well defined and fonts might have incomplete
implementations)

the best one can do is make a typescript (or a collection, as with tex
gyre which tries to be consistent over the whole range) that implements
a definition and even then, a different version of a font (i mostly use
commercial fonts and font ABC may have different implementations) may
hav edifferent properties; also, there is not one good usage (typescript
combination) of a specific font, esp now that we have many features

actually, talking about features, you need to keep in mind that even
when you define a specific instance, applying such an instance to a
whole document might fail because some features may not cover the whole
possible set of combinations of characters (take frac as an example) and
so usage demands knowlegde

eventually we may have a set of predefined typescripts that cover most
system fonts

On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 1:44 AM, Mohamed Bana
 wrote:
> hi,
>
> 1.
>
> what's the equivalent of the \usepackage{fullpage} for ConTeXt?
>
>
> 2.
>
> it would be convenient if LuaTeX supported typescripts like XeTeX does
> instead of having to define font synonyms, e.g.,
>
> \definetypeface[mainface][rm][Xserif][Warnock Pro]
> \definetypeface[mainface][ss][Xsans][Cronos Pro]
> \definetypeface[mainface][tt][Xmono][Inconsolata][default]%[rscale=0.9] %
> use only for Monaco
> %\definetypeface[mainface][mm][Xmath][palatino]
> \definetypeface[mainface][mm][math][palatino][default]%[encoding=texnansi]
> \setupbodyfont[mainface, 13pt]
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Re: [NTG-context] lucida and mactex 2008

[Yue Wang]

tug version will work in both mkiv and mkii. (I mean luatex 0.30.0)
in the future I think we should suggest TUG to distribute opentype
version of the font (including converting the math glyphs into
opentype math table).

On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 5:56 AM, Mohamed Bana
 wrote:
> sorry i'm stealing your thread, but i'm thinking of buying the lucida fonts
> with maths, which version works with luatex and which one works with mkii,
> please provide a link for both.
>
> Jerónimo Alaminos Prats wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have been using the lucida fonts without problems for a long time. They
>> work like a charm with mactex 2007 but moving to the 2008 version I've found
>> that some math symbols are shuffled  or simply do not appear in the pdf. For
>> example, \midint compiles correctly but do not appear in the pdf result.
>>
>> I have checked everything that  I can imagine but cannot find a reason for
>> this behaviour.
>>
>> As example, the result that I get when i compile
>>
>> \setupcolors[state=start]
>>
>> \usetypescript[lucida][texnansi]
>> \usetypescript[lucidabfm][texnansi]
>> \usetypescript[lucidaboldmath][texnansi]
>> \setupbodyfont[lucida,10pt]
>> \starttext
>> \showmathcharacters
>> \stoptext
>>
>> can be seen at
>>
>> http://www.ugr.es/~alaminos/_Media/lucida-2008.pdf
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jeronimo
>>
>>
>> -
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>> Dpto. An�lisis Matem�tico
>> Facultad de Ciencias
>> Universidad de Granada
>> Granada - 18071
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Re: [NTG-context] lucida and mactex 2008

[Yue Wang]

Well, he use pdftex to process the file.

On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 7:33 AM, Aditya Mahajan  wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Dec 2008, Jerónimo Alaminos Prats wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have been using the lucida fonts without problems for a long time. They
>> work like a charm with mactex 2007 but moving to the 2008 version I've found
>> that some math symbols are shuffled  or simply do not appear in the pdf. For
>> example, \midint compiles correctly but do not appear in the pdf result.
>>
>> I have checked everything that  I can imagine but cannot find a reason for
>> this behaviour.
>
> This is because the math encoding files have not been completely extended to
> mkiv yet. We are in the process of adding encoding information for all
> unicode math symbols. \midintop is not a unicode character, and we need to
> figure out how to represent non-unicode characters in the private areas of
> unicode table. I do not know if there is a temporary workaround to make this
> work.
>
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Re: [NTG-context] Serious bug?

[Fengnan Gao]

Hi, all

Can I roll back and use the old version when context isn't broken? I have 
several documents which need to be processed ASAP. Thanks.


Fengnan Gao




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Re: [NTG-context] lucida and mactex 2008

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Tue, 23 Dec 2008, Jerónimo Alaminos Prats wrote:


Hello,

I have been using the lucida fonts without problems for a long time. They 
work like a charm with mactex 2007 but moving to the 2008 version I've found 
that some math symbols are shuffled  or simply do not appear in the pdf. For 
example, \midint compiles correctly but do not appear in the pdf result.


I have checked everything that  I can imagine but cannot find a reason for 
this behaviour.


This is because the math encoding files have not been completely extended 
to mkiv yet. We are in the process of adding encoding information for all 
unicode math symbols. \midintop is not a unicode character, and we need to 
figure out how to represent non-unicode characters in the private areas of 
unicode table. I do not know if there is a temporary workaround to make 
this work.


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Re: [NTG-context] lucida and mactex 2008

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 23.12.2008 um 21:07 schrieb Jerónimo Alaminos Prats:


Hello,

I have been using the lucida fonts without problems for a long time.  
They work like a charm with mactex 2007 but moving to the 2008  
version I've found that some math symbols are shuffled  or simply do  
not appear in the pdf. For example, \midint compiles correctly but  
do not appear in the pdf result.


I have checked everything that  I can imagine but cannot find a  
reason for this behaviour.


As example, the result that I get when i compile

\setupcolors[state=start]

\usetypescript[lucida][texnansi]
\usetypescript[lucidabfm][texnansi]
\usetypescript[lucidaboldmath][texnansi]
\setupbodyfont[lucida,10pt]
\starttext
\showmathcharacters
\stoptext

can be seen at

http://www.ugr.es/~alaminos/_Media/lucida-2008.pdf

Any ideas?


Send your log file.

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] lucida and mactex 2008

[Mohamed Bana]

sorry i'm stealing your thread, but i'm thinking of buying the lucida 
fonts with maths, which version works with luatex and which one works 
with mkii, please provide a link for both.


Jerónimo Alaminos Prats wrote:

Hello,

I have been using the lucida fonts without problems for a long time. 
They work like a charm with mactex 2007 but moving to the 2008 version 
I've found that some math symbols are shuffled  or simply do not appear 
in the pdf. For example, \midint compiles correctly but do not appear in 
the pdf result.


I have checked everything that  I can imagine but cannot find a reason 
for this behaviour.


As example, the result that I get when i compile

\setupcolors[state=start]

\usetypescript[lucida][texnansi]
\usetypescript[lucidabfm][texnansi]
\usetypescript[lucidaboldmath][texnansi]
\setupbodyfont[lucida,10pt]
\starttext
\showmathcharacters
\stoptext

can be seen at

http://www.ugr.es/~alaminos/_Media/lucida-2008.pdf

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Jeronimo


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Dpto. An�lisis Matem�tico
Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad de Granada
Granada - 18071
alami...@ugr.es

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[NTG-context] lucida and mactex 2008

[Jerónimo Alaminos Prats]

Hello,

I have been using the lucida fonts without problems for a long time.  
They work like a charm with mactex 2007 but moving to the 2008 version  
I've found that some math symbols are shuffled  or simply do not  
appear in the pdf. For example, \midint compiles correctly but do not  
appear in the pdf result.


I have checked everything that  I can imagine but cannot find a reason  
for this behaviour.


As example, the result that I get when i compile

\setupcolors[state=start]

\usetypescript[lucida][texnansi]
\usetypescript[lucidabfm][texnansi]
\usetypescript[lucidaboldmath][texnansi]
\setupbodyfont[lucida,10pt]
\starttext
\showmathcharacters
\stoptext

can be seen at

http://www.ugr.es/~alaminos/_Media/lucida-2008.pdf

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Jeronimo


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Dpto. Análisis Matemático
Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad de Granada
Granada - 18071
alami...@ugr.es

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Re: [NTG-context] fullpage and XeTeX typescript

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 23.12.2008 um 18:44 schrieb Mohamed Bana:


hi,

1.

what's the equivalent of the \usepackage{fullpage} for ConTeXt?




\usemodule[fullpage][style={cm,empty}]

%\showframe

\starttext
\input knuth
\stoptext



%D \module
%D   [   file=p-fullpage,
%Dversion=2008.12.23,
%D  title=\CONTEXT\ User Module,
%D   subtitle=Fullpage documents,
%D author=Wolfgang Schuster,
%D   date=\currentdate,
%D  copyright=Wolfgang Schuster,
%Dlicense=Public Domain]

\unprotect

\startinterface all
  \setinterfacevariable {fullpage} {fullpage}
  \setinterfacevariable {in}   {in}
  \setinterfacevariable {cm}   {cm}
  \setinterfacevariable {plain}{plain}
  \setinterfacevariable {headings} {headings}
\stopinterface

\startmodule[\v!fullpage]

\setupmodule
  [\c!style={\v!in,\v!plain}]

\startsetups[\v!fullpage:\v!in]

\setuplayout
  [\c!backspace=1in,
   \c!width=\v!middle,
   \c!topspace=1in,
   \c!height=\v!middle]

\stopsetups

\startsetups[\v!fullpage:\v!cm]

\setuplayout
  [\c!backspace=15mm,
   \c!width=\v!middle,
   \c!topspace=15mm,
   \c!height=\v!middle]

\stopsetups

\startsetups[\v!fullpage:\v!plain]

\setuplayout
  [\c!header=0pt,
   \c!footer=.5in]

\stopsetups

\startsetups[\v!fullpage:\v!empty]

\setuplayout
  [\c!header=0pt,
   \c!footer=0pt]

\stopsetups

\startsetups[\v!fullpage:\v!headings]

\setuplayout
  [\c!header=.5in,
   \c!footer=.5in]

\stopsetups

\def\dofullpagelayout#1%
  {\directsetup{\v!fullpage:#1}}

\processcommacommand[\currentmoduleparameter\c!style]\dofullpagelayout

\stopmodule

\protect \endinput


Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] fullpage and XeTeX typescript

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 23.12.2008 um 18:44 schrieb Mohamed Bana:


hi,

1.

what's the equivalent of the \usepackage{fullpage} for ConTeXt?



Tell us next time what a package is supposed to do.

\setuplayout
  [backspace=1in,
   width=middle,
   topspace=1in,
   header=0pt,
   footer=0pt,
   height=middle]

\starttext
...
\stoptext

or use \definelayout to predefine different layouts and load
them in your document.

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] Serious bug?

[Taco Hoekwater]

Taco Hoekwater wrote:

Alan STONE wrote:

I did a clean minimals install on my Windows XP Home SP3 system and
get the same strange output.

ConTeXt ver: 2008.11.10 21:40 MKIV fmt: 2008.12.22 int: english/english
This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.31.2-2008121200, build 1659

texmfstart texexec --lua hello
context.cmd --lua hello

C:\context\tex\texmf-cache\luatex-cache\context\2fea56f92e5267d7cc9662e4d5f52e1e\fonts\otf\lmroman12-regular.tma 


C:\context\tex\texmf\fonts\opentype\public\lm\lmroman12-regular.otf

mailed to Taco.


Thanks, got them.  More later, but at first glance the tma does not look
all that weird.


Short update on the files people sent me:

 * the otf file is identical,
 * the tma and tmc seem fine

It seems that somehow, when the tmc is read in, context (i.e. luatex)
misinterprets the numeric values in the bytecode completely, resulting
in ridiculous values for character widths, heights, depths etc.

I am afraid I still have no idea why this happens.

Best wishes,
Taco


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Re: [NTG-context] Serious bug?

[Taco Hoekwater]

Mojca Miklavec wrote:


Does it behave any differently if you try to replace the luatex binary
inside tex/texmf-mswin/bin with the extracted luatex from
?



I would love to know the answer to this question as well.

Best wishes,
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[NTG-context] fullpage and XeTeX typescript

[Mohamed Bana]

hi,

1.

what's the equivalent of the \usepackage{fullpage} for ConTeXt?


2.

it would be convenient if LuaTeX supported typescripts like XeTeX does 
instead of having to define font synonyms, e.g.,


\definetypeface[mainface][rm][Xserif][Warnock Pro]
\definetypeface[mainface][ss][Xsans][Cronos Pro]
\definetypeface[mainface][tt][Xmono][Inconsolata][default]%[rscale=0.9] 
% use only for Monaco

%\definetypeface[mainface][mm][Xmath][palatino]
\definetypeface[mainface][mm][math][palatino][default]%[encoding=texnansi]
\setupbodyfont[mainface, 13pt]


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Re: [NTG-context] Unicode and BibTeX

[Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي ح امد]

Salaam, Khaled,

On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:51:56 -0700, Khaled Hosny   
wrote:



I'm trying to typeset an Arabic book with Arabic bibliography, I'm using
bib module, but bibtex doesn't support unicode. Any workaround or another
alternative?


Can you port your database to bbl format -- \start-stoppublication -- and  
just use the bib module without bibtex?


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[NTG-context] Fixed: mpost finds BAD TFM

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hi all,

This turned out to be an endianness bug in the TFM reader.
You can expect mpost 1.102 tomorrow.

Best wishes,
Taco

Hans van der Meer wrote:
> NASTY PROBLEM WITH READING TFM FILES IN LATEST METAPOST
> 
> A nasty problem has surfaced that Taco Hoekwater cannot solve, because
> it does not occur on his system. My system is Apple Macintosh 10.5.6 and
> I am using the command "sh build.sh" to compile metapost-1.101.

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Re: [NTG-context] Serious bug?

[Derek CORDEIRO]

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Derek CORDEIRO wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Fengnan Gao  wrote:
>
>>  I just installed ConTeXtMinimal using first-setup.bat. But it seems it
>> has some serious bug that context even couldn't deal with such a easy
>> document:
>>
>> \starttext
>> Hello world!
>> \stoptext
>>
>> What's the problem? Anybody can help me?
>>
>>
>
> I got the same error so I tried texexec instead of context and it seems to
> work fine. How different is context from texexec?


Oops dumb question on my part... did not realise that texexec used pdfTeX by
default and context uses luaTeX.

...
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Re: [NTG-context] Serious bug?

[Derek CORDEIRO]

On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Fengnan Gao  wrote:

>  I just installed ConTeXtMinimal using first-setup.bat. But it seems it
> has some serious bug that context even couldn't deal with such a easy
> document:
>
> \starttext
> Hello world!
> \stoptext
>
> What's the problem? Anybody can help me?
>
>

I got the same error so I tried texexec instead of context and it seems to
work fine. How different is context from texexec?

Regards,
Derek

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Re: [NTG-context] Serious bug?

[Taco Hoekwater]

Alan STONE wrote:

I did a clean minimals install on my Windows XP Home SP3 system and
get the same strange output.

ConTeXt ver: 2008.11.10 21:40 MKIV fmt: 2008.12.22 int: english/english
This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.31.2-2008121200, build 1659

texmfstart texexec --lua hello
context.cmd --lua hello

C:\context\tex\texmf-cache\luatex-cache\context\2fea56f92e5267d7cc9662e4d5f52e1e\fonts\otf\lmroman12-regular.tma
C:\context\tex\texmf\fonts\opentype\public\lm\lmroman12-regular.otf

mailed to Taco.


Thanks, got them.  More later, but at first glance the tma does not look
all that weird.

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Re: [NTG-context] Serious bug?

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hi Mojca,

Mojca Miklavec wrote:

!luaTeX error (file
/tmp/context/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/lm/lmroman12-regular.otf):
Parsing CFF DICT failed. (error=-1)


I can almost certainly reproduce this, I see an uninitialized variable
in valgrind. More about this later, but this is *not* the same as
Fengnan's problem.

This problem happens in the backend when the pdf resources are output,
while his problem occurs much earlier in the process, during the
actual typesetting.


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Re: [NTG-context] different behavior between xetex and luatex

[Yue Wang]

Hi, Jonathan:


Thanks for the analysis! Now I replace the trk with TRK, and xetex
output is right.

>
> In the LuaTeX case, I don't think *any* ligatures are enabled by default, so
> the language is irrelevant; notice that there's no "ff" ligature in your
> output either, even though this should be expected.


The input file is not right. here is the right one: luatex do not
enable kerning and ligatures by default, users should specify them or
just using the "default" feature. Sorry for the noise.

Yue Wang


luatex.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document


a.tex
Description: TeX document
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Re: [NTG-context] different behavior between xetex and luatex

[Yue Wang]

Hi, Hans:

>
> When trk is replaced by TRK it works OK in XeTeX.

Thanks! So I think we should support lowercase code for xetex as well
for api consistency?
LuaTeX/MKIV use lowercase labels.

Then we can get similar output using the same tex file.

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Re: [NTG-context] different behavior between xetex and luatex

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Jonathan Kew wrote:
> On 23 Dec 2008, at 04:26, Yue Wang wrote:
>
>> Hi, all.
>>
>> I expect different output in xetex and luatex using context. and I
>> think the problem is quite serious although I do not speak Turkish.
>> in turkish, fi can not be treat as ligatures and I can see luatex
>> handle that quite well. however, in xetex, fi are treated as
>> ligatures.
>> I attach the files and output here. I don't know it is a bug in xetex,
>> context or dvipdfmx:(
>>
>> Yue Wang
>> 
>
> I don't know how the ConTeXt+XeTeX font setup works, but I notice
> "language=trk" in your file. OpenType language tags are all-uppercase, so I
> would have expected this to be "language=TRK". If the proper language system
> isn't specified, you will get the default behavior, which includes the "fi"
> ligatures.

When trk is replaced by TRK it works OK in XeTeX.

> In the LuaTeX case, I don't think *any* ligatures are enabled by default, so
> the language is irrelevant; notice that there's no "ff" ligature in your
> output either, even though this should be expected.

LuaTeX (ConTeXt with LuaTeX support) is a bit broken at the moment -
the example doesn't compile here, so it's difficult to say anything.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] ntg-context Digest, Vol 54, Issue 69

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 5:37 AM, Fengnan Gao wrote:
>
>> Does it behave any differently if you try to replace the luatex binary
>> inside tex/texmf-mswin/bin with the extracted luatex from
>>
>> ?
>>
>> Mojca (with zero ideas left)
>>
>
> Nope, Mojca, not working too.
>
> Just one more question: why I cannot receive emails from the mail-list, what
> I get only is the digest?

It appears to be some multiplatform bug, not only on windows, but
happens on new ConTeXt installations only. That's probably up to Hans
to fix, but LuaTeX is not supposed to crash either.

Mojca

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Re: [NTG-context] ntg-context Digest, Vol 54, Issue 69

[Taco Hoekwater]

Fengnan Gao wrote:



Does it behave any differently if you try to replace the luatex binary
inside tex/texmf-mswin/bin with the extracted luatex from
? 



Mojca (with zero ideas left)



Nope, Mojca, not working too.

Just one more question: why I cannot receive emails from the mail-list, 
what I get only is the digest?


Go here:


http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context


Log in (link at the bottom), and change the "Set Digest Mode" back to
off.

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Re: [NTG-context] different behavior between xetex and luatex

[Jonathan Kew]

On 23 Dec 2008, at 04:26, Yue Wang wrote:


Hi, all.

I expect different output in xetex and luatex using context. and I
think the problem is quite serious although I do not speak Turkish.
in turkish, fi can not be treat as ligatures and I can see luatex
handle that quite well. however, in xetex, fi are treated as
ligatures.
I attach the files and output here. I don't know it is a bug in xetex,
context or dvipdfmx:(

Yue Wang



I don't know how the ConTeXt+XeTeX font setup works, but I notice  
"language=trk" in your file. OpenType language tags are all-uppercase,  
so I would have expected this to be "language=TRK". If the proper  
language system isn't specified, you will get the default behavior,  
which includes the "fi" ligatures.


In the LuaTeX case, I don't think *any* ligatures are enabled by  
default, so the language is irrelevant; notice that there's no "ff"  
ligature in your output either, even though this should be expected.


JK

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