Re: [NTG-context] Why is the \crlf needed to display the table correctly

2011-08-16 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 16.08.2011 um 00:05 schrieb Cecil Westerhof:

 I think it is an obscure bug. If I take your code but change the following:
  \setupTABLE[c][1][align=right,width=.35\textwidth]
  \setupTABLE[c][2][width=.65\textwidth]
 
 I have the same problem.

Change “align=right” to “align={right,broad}”.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Why is the \crlf needed to display the table correctly

2011-08-16 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/8/16 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com

  I think it is an obscure bug. If I take your code but change the
 following:
   \setupTABLE[c][1][align=right,width=.35\textwidth]
   \setupTABLE[c][2][width=.65\textwidth]
 
  I have the same problem.

 Change “align=right” to “align={right,broad}”.


At the moment I am not at the (Windows) computer where I write this
document. I'll try it tonight.

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Re: [NTG-context] Tracking in MKII and MKIV

2011-08-16 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 16.08.2011 um 02:22 schrieb Raymond LeClair:

 I am automating the creation of books using ConTeXt with a graphic design 
 graduate student at the Rhode Island School of Design.
 
 The book cover is created using MetaPost inside a ConTeXt source file.
 
 The graphic designer tells me it is very common to specify the interletter 
 spacing, or tracking, and in fact, he considers this capability to be 
 essential.
 
 I understand that these, so called, microtypography capabilities are present 
 in pdfTeX fully, but only partially present in LuaTeX (protrusion and 
 expansion), although tracking can be set in a way using \kerncharacters[0.5] 
 in LuaTeX.
 
 However, the quality of the typesetting produced by LuaTeX is completely 
 inadequate, while the quality of the typesetting produced by pdfTeX is very 
 good.
 
 Am I miss-understanding the differences in capability between pdfTeX and 
 LuaTeX in this regard?


To place elements on a fixed position on the page you can use layers.

It’s also important to disable kerning, ligatures etc.

\definepapersize[LG1][width=9.24in,height=6.87in]
\definepapersize[LP1][width=9.49in,height=7.12in]

\setuppapersize[LG1][LP1]

\setuplayout[location=middle,marking=off]

\setuppagenumber[state=stop]

%\definefont[LabelFont][Serif sa 0.583]
\definefont[LabelFont][Serif*none at 7pt]

\definelayer[cover]

\starttext

\startlayout[page]
\startstandardmakeup

\setlayerframed
  [cover]
  [x=0.3472in,
   y=0.3472in]
  [frame=off,
   width=2.6in,
   align={right,broad},
   foregroundstyle=LabelFont]
  {\setupinterlinespace[line=10.5pt]
   \setuptolerance[space]%
   \kerncharacters[0.25]
   THIS BOOK CONTAINS 988 TWEETS POSTED TO
   TWITTER BY LADYGAGA FROM MARCH 27, 2008
   TO AUGUST 5, 2011. IT WAS PUBLISHED ON
   DEMAND ON AUGUST 14, 2011\par}

\placelayer[cover]

\stopstandardmakeup
\stoplayout

\stoptext

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] Tracking in MKII and MKIV

2011-08-16 Thread Hans Hagen

On 16-8-2011 2:22, Raymond LeClair wrote:


The graphic designer tells me it is very common to specify the interletter 
spacing, or tracking, and in fact, he considers this capability to be essential.


intercharacter spacing is ok for titling but for running text ... maybe 
common but not that good (after all it spoils the font design)



I understand that these, so called, microtypography capabilities are present in 
pdfTeX fully, but only partially present in LuaTeX (protrusion and expansion), 
although tracking can be set in a way using \kerncharacters[0.5] in LuaTeX.


pdftex has some inter character kerning features but they are considered 
to be experimental and in context they are supported (see hand-ini.mkii) 
but I must admit that I never used it and have forgotten how to enable it



However, the quality of the typesetting produced by LuaTeX is completely 
inadequate, while the quality of the typesetting produced by pdfTeX is very 
good.


nu clue (yet) but i might as well remove the old mechanism from mkiv as 
we have better ways



Am I miss-understanding the differences in capability between pdfTeX and LuaTeX 
in this regard?


yes, see example below (somewhat changed so you might want to wikify it 
as example (it will confuse mojca's number of hits filters as 'twitter' 
and 'ladygaga' might lead to false google lookups).


\definepapersize[LG1][width=9.24in,height=6.87in]
\definepapersize[LP1][width=9.49in,height=7.12in]

\setuppapersize[LG1][LP1]

\setuplayout[location=middle,marking=off]

\definefont[LabelFont][Serif sa 0.583]

\definecharacterkerning [mykerning] [factor=.5]

\startbuffer
THIS BOOK CONTAINS 988 TWEETS POSTED TO
TWITTER BY LADYGAGA FROM MARCH 27, 2008
TO AUGUST 5, 2011. IT WAS PUBLISHED ON
DEMAND ON AUGUST 14, 2011
\stopbuffer

\startsetups covertext
\framed
[
width=2.389in,
align=normal,
frame=off,
offset=0pt,
foregroundstyle=\LabelFont
]
{
\baselineskip10.5pt
\setcharacterkerning[mykerning]
\getbuffer
\par
}
\stopsetups

\startuniqueMPgraphic{cover}
StartPage ;
left_margin := 0.3472in ;
top_margin  := 0.3472in ;

draw
textext.lrt(\setups[covertext])
shifted ulcorner Page
shifted (left_margin,-top_margin) ;

StopPage ;
\stopuniqueMPgraphic

\defineoverlay[cover][\uniqueMPgraphic{cover}]

\definelayer
  [page]
  [width=\paperwidth,
   height=\paperheight]

\showframe

\starttext

% variant one:

\setupbackgrounds
  [paper]
  [background={cover}]

\startstandardmakeup\stopstandardmakeup \page

\setupbackgrounds
  [paper]
  [background=]

% variant two:

\setlayer
  [page]
  [preset=lefttop,
   offset=0.3472in]
  {\setups[covertext]}

\setuplayout
  [page]

\tightlayer[page] \page

\setuplayout

\stoptext

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] Tracking in MKII and MKIV

2011-08-16 Thread Hans Hagen


best disable the regular kerning:

\starttext

\definedfont[Serif*none] % no kerning

\hsize 2.389in
\kerncharacters[0.125]
THIS BOOK CONTAINS 988 TWEETS POSTED TO TWITTER BY LADYGAGA FROM MARCH 
27, 2008

TO AUGUST 5, 2011. IT WAS PUBLISHED ON DEMAND ON AUGUST 14, 2011

\kerncharacters[0.250]
THIS BOOK CONTAINS 988 TWEETS POSTED TO TWITTER BY LADYGAGA FROM MARCH 
27, 2008

TO AUGUST 5, 2011. IT WAS PUBLISHED ON DEMAND ON AUGUST 14, 2011

\stoptext




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[NTG-context] wrong mlib process calls

2011-08-16 Thread Peter Rolf
Hi,

I have added the 'mtr' process in front of the normal 'tr'
process.

[mlib-pps.lua]
...
appendaction(processoractions,system,fg_process)
appendaction(processoractions,system,mtr_process)
appendaction(processoractions,system,tr_process) -- last, as color can
be reset
...

Strangely the 'mtr' process is also(!) called, if normal transparency
('tr') or text ('tx') is used. You can imagine that the 'cleanup
code' has unwanted side effects here. :-)
A change of the 'appendaction' order has no impact.

I simply added

commands.writestatus('mtr_process',table.serialize(prescript))

at the start of mtr_process and this is what I get for the attached example:

mtr_process  t={
 { tr_transparency, 0.5 },
 { tr_alternative, 1 },
 [tr_alternative]=1,
 [tr_transparency]=0.5,
}
mtr_process  t={
 { tr_transparency, 0.5 },
 { tr_alternative, 1 },
 [tr_alternative]=1,
 [tr_transparency]=0.5,
}
mtr_process  t={
 { tx_stage, final },
 { tx_number, 1 },
 [tx_number]=1,
 [tx_stage]=final,
}

Any ideas what goes wrong here? Example and patched file added.


Peter


mtx-context | current version: 2011.08.04 00:42
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.70.1-2011051907 (rev 4277)
\nopdfcompression
\setuppagenumber[state=stop]


\definecolor[foo][r=1,g=0,b=0,,a=1,t=.5]
%\definecolor[foo][r=1,g=0,b=0]

\startuniqueMPgraphic{foo}{color}
rgbcolor c;
% this only works with non transparent colors; otherwise...
%c:= \MPvar{color}; % ...:  ! Equation cannot be performed (color=numeric).
% works with non|transparent colors, but grayscale conversion!!
c:= \MPcolor{\MPvar{color}};

fill OverlayBox scaled .25 withcolor c;
fill OverlayBox scaled .50 withcolor transparent(normaltransparent,.5,c);
fill OverlayBox scaled 1.0 withcolor c withtransparency(normaltransparent,.5);

label(decimal(redpart c)  ,  decimal(greenpart c)  ,  decimal(bluepart c),center(OverlayBox));
\stopuniqueMPgraphic

\defineoverlay[foo][\uniqueMPgraphic{foo}{color=foo}]

\starttext

\framed[width=10cm,height=2cm,frame=on,background=foo]{}

\stoptext


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[NTG-context] Line length limitation of typing block?

2011-08-16 Thread Vladimir Lomov
Hi.

Please consider the following two examples:

file name=exa-feat1.tex
\setupbackend[export=yes]
\definetyping[EXAMPLE][escape=yes]

\starttext

This is an example with \quotation{long} verbatim text.
Why context fails to compile the file? Is there a method to process this file?

\startEXAMPLE
This is a short verbatim line

This this this this this this very very very very very very long long long long 
long long line line line line line line
\stoptext

\stoptext
/file

file name=exa-feat2.tex
\setupbackend[export=yes]
\definetyping[EXAMPLE][escape=yes]

\starttext

This is an example with \quotation{long} verbatim text.
The version without buffer fails.

\startbuffer[ex1]
This is a short verbatim line

This this this this this this very very very very very very long long long long 
long long line line line line line line
\stopbuffer

\startEXAMPLE
/BTEX\getbuffer[ex1]/ETEX
\stopEXAMPLE

\stoptext
/file

context (mkiv) fails to compile first file (error:
output name=exa-feat1.tex
Runaway argument?
This this this this this this very ve\ETC.
! File ended while scanning use of \dododowithbuffer.

system   tex  error on line 0 in file : File ended while
scanning use of \dododowithbuffer ...

empty file

inserted text 
\par 
* ./exa-feat1.tex 
\stoptext
?
/output
)

Seems that there is a limitation on line length in typing block, then
how to process a file with such line?

The second example compiles well but the long is splitted. How to avoid
this? (Adding ',space=fixed' to '\definetyping' doesn't help.)


P.S. Sorry two questions in one topic.

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[NTG-context] DTD or similar for export file?

2011-08-16 Thread Vladimir Lomov
Hi.

I'm playing with 'export' and wonder is there 'official' DTD or
something similar for 'export' file?



P.S. I'm trying to figure out how to write notes using context and
export them into (x)html. Currently I'm happy with default xhtml
produced by context but want to get 'real' xhtml.


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Re: [NTG-context] Line length limitation of typing block?

2011-08-16 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 16.08.2011 um 12:00 schrieb Vladimir Lomov:

 Hi.
 
 Please consider the following two examples:
 
 [...]
 
 context (mkiv) fails to compile first file (error:

You forgot \stopEXAMPLE.

 Seems that there is a limitation on line length in typing block, then
 how to process a file with such line?
 
 The second example compiles well but the long is splitted. How to avoid
 this? (Adding ',space=fixed' to '\definetyping' doesn't help.)

Use \typebuffer[ex1].

Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Problem with installing ConTeXt

2011-08-16 Thread Cecil Westerhof
I am still struggling to get ConTeXt running under Windows. At home where
(when I work with Windows) I work with Vista it worked. At the company they
use XP. I did the same as I did at home, but now I get error messages about
configuration files that can not be found in the non existing directory
c:\contextminimal. I installed ConTeXt in c:\context.

Is it possible that something changed since yesterday?

The way I try to couple ConTeXt and TeXworks is described in the following
document:
http://www.decebal.nl/ConTeXtManual.pdf

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Re: [NTG-context] Line length limitation of typing block?

2011-08-16 Thread Vladimir Lomov
** Wolfgang Schuster [2011-08-16 12:07:22 +0200]:


 Am 16.08.2011 um 12:00 schrieb Vladimir Lomov:

 Hi.

 Please consider the following two examples:

 [...]

 context (mkiv) fails to compile first file (error:

 You forgot \stopEXAMPLE.
Sigh, I overlooked it (acutally my vim setup uses autocompletion and it
autocompleted wrong command so I even didn't check whole example).

 Seems that there is a limitation on line length in typing block, then
 how to process a file with such line?

 The second example compiles well but the long is splitted. How to avoid
 this? (Adding ',space=fixed' to '\definetyping' doesn't help.)

 Use \typebuffer[ex1].
Thank you, this rises another question...

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[NTG-context] How to prevent line split in typing block when using custom command?

2011-08-16 Thread Vladimir Lomov
Hi.

Consider the following two example files:

- 8 

file name=exa-feat1.tex
\setupbackend[export=yes]
\definetyping[EXAMPLE][escape=yes]

\starttext

This is an example with \quotation{long} verbatim text.
Why context complians? Is there a method to process this file?

\startEXAMPLE
This is a short verbatim line

This this this this this this very very very very very very long long long long 
long long line line line line line line
\stopEXAMPLE

\stoptext
/file

- 8 

file name=exa-feat3.tex
\setupbackend[export=yes]
\definetyping[EXAMPLE][escape=yes]
\definestartstop[important][style=bold]

\starttext

This is an example with \quotation{long} verbatim text.
Why context fail to compile this example? Is there a method to process it?

\startEXAMPLE
This is a short verbatim line

This this this this this this very very very very very very 
/BTEX\important{long long long long}/ETEX long long line line line line line 
line
\stopEXAMPLE

\stoptext
/file

- 8 


In first case the long line is not splitted, in second case the line is
splitted. How to prevent line splitting?


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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with installing ConTeXt

2011-08-16 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/8/16 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com

 I am still struggling to get ConTeXt running under Windows. At home where
 (when I work with Windows) I work with Vista it worked. At the company they
 use XP. I did the same as I did at home, but now I get error messages about
 configuration files that can not be found in the non existing directory
 c:\contextminimal. I installed ConTeXt in c:\context.


I found the problem. I had previously tried to install with Vyatcheslav
Yatskovsky's installer, which did not work. After cleaning up, it seems to
work.

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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with installing ConTeXt

2011-08-16 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Tue, 16 Aug 2011, Cecil Westerhof wrote:


The way I try to couple ConTeXt and TeXworks is described in the following
document:
   http://www.decebal.nl/ConTeXtManual.pdf


IIRC, if you install minimals using '--goodies=all', you get a properly 
configured texworks.


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[NTG-context] Smileys

2011-08-16 Thread Cecil Westerhof
Is it possible to work with smileys in ConTeXt?

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Re: [NTG-context] Smileys

2011-08-16 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

Am 2011-08-16 um 21:46 schrieb Cecil Westerhof:


Is it possible to work with smileys in ConTeXt?


Why not?
But perhaps you could specifiy what you'd like to achieve.


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[NTG-context] punk is dead

2011-08-16 Thread Jano Kula

Hi Hans  comp.

is there any reason why the latest beta doesn't typeset random glyphs 
with rand feature as it used to at least a year ago?


*.tma and *.tmc files also differ in size.

ConTeXt  ver: 2011.08.04 00:42 MKIV
LuaTeX-0.70.1


\definefontfeature[punk]
[mode=node,script=latn,rand=yes,kern=yes,tlig=yes]

\starttypescript[serif][punknova]
 \definefontsynonym[Serif][file:punknova-regular][features=punk]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript[punknova]
 \definetypeface[punknova][rm][serif][punknova][default]
\stoptypescript

\setupbodyfont[punknova]

\starttext
\rm \input knuth\par
\stoptext



BTW, is \installfontfeature deprecated as the font-ini.mkiv says: 
installing font features *was* experimental? Any other way to install 
font features from *.fea file instead of


\installfontfeature[otf][rock]
\definefontfeature
  [myfeature]
  [mode=node,rock=yes,featurefile=rockfile.fea]

Thank you,

Jano


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Re: [NTG-context] Smileys

2011-08-16 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/8/16 Henning Hraban Ramm hra...@fiee.net

 Is it possible to work with smileys in ConTeXt?



 Why not?
 But perhaps you could specifiy what you'd like to achieve.


Instead of using something like ;-}, what looks nice, but is not the
highpoint of typography, I would like to use something like \smiley, \grin,
\cool, …

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Re: [NTG-context] Smileys

2011-08-16 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 16.08.2011 um 22:55 schrieb Cecil Westerhof:

 2011/8/16 Henning Hraban Ramm hra...@fiee.net
 Is it possible to work with smileys in ConTeXt?
 
 
 Why not?
 But perhaps you could specifiy what you'd like to achieve.
 
 Instead of using something like ;-}, what looks nice, but is not the 
 highpoint of typography, I would like to use something like \smiley, \grin, 
 \cool, …

You need a font with the symbol, there are also fonts available where you can 
use layers to use different colors for parts of the symbol.

- http://www.ffdingbatsfont.com/
- http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2011/057859.html

Apples new emoji font is also very interesting but you can’t use it with 
ConTeXt.

- http://typophile.com/node/83760
- 
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/02/27/inside_mac_os_x_10_7_lion_font_book_3_emoji_support.html

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] How to prevent line split in typing block when using custom command?

2011-08-16 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 16.08.2011 um 14:05 schrieb Vladimir Lomov:

 Hi.
 
 Consider the following two example files:
 
 […]
 
 \definetyping[EXAMPLE][escape=yes]
 \definestartstop[important][style=bold]
 
 \starttext
 
 This is an example with \quotation{long} verbatim text.
 Why context fail to compile this example? Is there a method to process it?
 
 \startEXAMPLE
 This is a short verbatim line
 
 This this this this this this very very very very very very 
 /BTEX\important{long long long long}/ETEX long long line line line line line 
 line
 \stopEXAMPLE
 
 \stoptext
 
 In first case the long line is not splitted, in second case the line is
 splitted. How to prevent line splitting?

Use a nonbreakable space in the escaped text, i.e. “long~long”.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] DTD or similar for export file?

2011-08-16 Thread Hans Hagen

On 16-8-2011 12:05, Vladimir Lomov wrote:

Hi.

I'm playing with 'export' and wonder is there 'official' DTD or
something similar for 'export' file?


export-example.rng

but it's not complete yet



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Re: [NTG-context] punk is dead

2011-08-16 Thread Hans Hagen

On 16-8-2011 10:44, Jano Kula wrote:


is there any reason why the latest beta doesn't typeset random glyphs
with rand feature as it used to at least a year ago?


fixed in next veta

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Re: [NTG-context] Tracking in MKII and MKIV

2011-08-16 Thread Hans Hagen

On 16-8-2011 10:37, Hans Hagen wrote:


best disable the regular kerning:

\starttext

\definedfont[Serif*none] % no kerning

\hsize 2.389in
\kerncharacters[0.125]
THIS BOOK CONTAINS 988 TWEETS POSTED TO TWITTER BY LADYGAGA FROM MARCH
27, 2008
TO AUGUST 5, 2011. IT WAS PUBLISHED ON DEMAND ON AUGUST 14, 2011

\kerncharacters[0.250]
THIS BOOK CONTAINS 988 TWEETS POSTED TO TWITTER BY LADYGAGA FROM MARCH
27, 2008
TO AUGUST 5, 2011. IT WAS PUBLISHED ON DEMAND ON AUGUST 14, 2011

\stoptext


node mode fonts supported in next beta



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Re: [NTG-context] punk is dead

2011-08-16 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 12:58:34AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
 On 16-8-2011 10:44, Jano Kula wrote:
 
 is there any reason why the latest beta doesn't typeset random glyphs
 with rand feature as it used to at least a year ago?
 
 fixed in next veta

BTW, the latest release of the fonts have slanted versions, so no need
for auto-slanting. Attached a patch for type-otf.mkiv.

Mojca, can we have the fonts in minimals (they are on CTAN), I think
Hans likes them ;)

Regards,
 Khaled

-- 
 Khaled Hosny
 Egyptian
 Arab
diff --git a/tex/context/base/type-otf.mkiv b/tex/context/base/type-otf.mkiv
index df4809e..a846e4d 100644
--- a/tex/context/base/type-otf.mkiv
+++ b/tex/context/base/type-otf.mkiv
@@ -1887,13 +1887,12 @@
 \starttypescriptcollection[punk]
 
 \definefontfeature [punknova] [mode=node,script=latn,rand=yes,kern=yes,liga=yes,tlig=yes]
-\definefontfeature [punknova-slanted] [punknova] [slant=.25]
 
 \starttypescript [serif] [punknova]
-\definefontsynonym [Serif]   [\s!file:punknova-regular] [\s!features=punknova]
-\definefontsynonym [SerifSlanted][\s!file:punknova-regular] [\s!features=punknova-slanted]
-\definefontsynonym [SerifBold]   [\s!file:punknova-bold][\s!features=punknova]
-\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldSlanted][\s!file:punknova-bold][\s!features=punknova-slanted]
+\definefontsynonym [Serif]   [\s!file:punknova-regular] [\s!features=punknova]
+\definefontsynonym [SerifSlanted][\s!file:punknova-slanted] [\s!features=punknova]
+\definefontsynonym [SerifBold]   [\s!file:punknova-bold][\s!features=punknova]
+\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldSlanted][\s!file:punknova-boldslanted] [\s!features=punknova]
 \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [SerifSlanted]
 \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [SerifBoldSlanted]
 \stoptypescript
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Book: Request for help!

2011-08-16 Thread Russell Urquhart
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 01:16:55PM -0600, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس   سماوي حامد 
wrote:
 Yes!! That's _exactly_ the challenge! My vision is for ConTeXt to break  
 out of the shell!

 :-)

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Hi Idris,

As a tech writer for 27+ years, who is a recent Context newbie, I applaud your 
efforts and wish you the best. I just recently have been in the middle of a 
paradigm change myself, going from Xywrite on the PC to trying to learn and use 
Context and using vim/gvim as my editor. 

Back in 1988 or so, when i was employed at TI, we were tasked with trying to 
get people to use the then new Ventura Publisher for creating documents, etc. 
This was all pre- Windows. As a result of that i can understand your concern 
for having a complete system in place for your new users. Everything has to be 
in place.

I too look forward to your book. I also look forward to seeing some examples 
using an Arabic font. My wife is Persian so I've gained an appreciation for 
typography with regard to this language also. The fact that Context as well as 
Vim could handle these fonts well were factors in my trying to learn them.

Keep up the good work.


Russ
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