Re: [NTG-context] Lilypond
Hi Aditya & Hraban,
I'm very glad to see improved Lilypond integration being discussed. I can't
offer too much besides moral support, but would just point out one solution
I've found for proper width/alignment of a snippet with extra-staff material
(e.g. a piano staff marker { ): If the ConTeXt textwidth is equal to the
Lilypond line-width, aligning the float to the right gives you a snippet nicely
aligned with flush text (extra-staff material being pushed towards the left
margin).
Something like this (as in the example in the garden):
\def\readlilypondoutput#1{\setupfloats[location=right,frame=off]\placefigure[]{}}{\externalfigure[#1]}}
Regards,
David
On Aug 20, 2011, at 1:19 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Aug 2011, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
>
>> Am 2011-08-19 um 17:08 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:
>>
>> But - can you even support different setups, say
>>
>> \startlilypondpreamble
>> global settings for everything
>> \stoplilypondpreamble
>>
>> \startlilypondpreamble[snippet]
>> global settings for snippets
>> \stoplilypondpreamble
>>
>> \startlilypondpreamble[fullscore]
>> global settings for full scores
>> \stoplilypondpreamble
>>
>> \startlilypond[setup=fullscore]
>> the score
>> \stoplilypond
>>
>> etc.
>
> Yes. I can support the following syntax:
>
> \startbuffer[snippets] ... \stopbuffer
>
> \startbuffer[fullscore] ... \stopbuffer
>
> \startbuffer[common] ... \stopbuffer
>
> \startlilypond[bufferbefore={snippets,common}, bufferafter={}]
> \stoplilypond
>
> (In fact, provide similar support for anything defined using the filter
> module).
>
>>> The other thing is to be able to change linespace, papersize, offset, etc
>>> using parameters, so that one can say:
>>> \startlilypond[linespace=...]
>>> ...
>>> \stoplilypond
>>> This will require some lua side processing.
>>
>> You mean, translate ConTeXt-style settings to LilyPond settings, like we did
>> with the old module?
>
> Yes.
>
>> That wouldn’t make much sense. LilyPond just has too much settings. And most
>> of them you can set in different ways. To fully support this, you’d need a
>> complete LilyPond parser including Scheme. And a small set of settings is
>> never the right set for everyone.
>
> OK.
>
>> Ok, there are a few settings that we could translate, e.g. set ConTeXt’s
>> main fonts also for LilyPond.
>
> Agreed. Does anyone know how to get the name of the current font in MkIV?
>
>> We don’t need LilyPond's layout settings, as long as we go the
>> \externalfigure path.
>
> But I think that at least automatic paper size settings (set paper size to be
> equal to text area) are needed.
>
>> I don’t know a solution for line breaking of scores - if you’d set
>> LilyPond’s page size to ConTeXt’s remaining space, it would stay the same
>> for the second page. Perhaps we can get single lines (systems) and let
>> ConTeXt to the page breaking. I’ll look into that.
>
> OK.
>
>> But I don’t know how we can make it "right" WRT LilyPond snippets - I’d want
>> to align a note systems’s base line with ConTeXt’s text baseline, but the
>> height and clipping of a snippet depends on the visible elements. Without
>> some picture analysis (or runtime data from LilyPond, that doesn’t exist
>> AFAIK) you need to adjust your snippets manually.
>
> Does lilypond-book handle this at all? It does not appear to. Manually
> adjusting each inline snippet will be too much work, IMO.
>
>>> Do you know how lilypond numbers its output files. In some cases I get
>>> filename-1.pdf sometimes not. Can I force it to always give filename-1.pdf
>>> or always give filename.pdf
>>
>> LilyPond adds a number to EPS, if there’s more that one page.
>> But in my songbook setup, I always get a filename-temp-lilypond-##.eps plus
>> an identical filename-temp-lilypond-##-1.eps
>>
>> When you order more than one \midi{} in several \score blocks, the first
>> MIDI file is unnumbered, the second gets number 1 etc.; didn’t try with
>> different \layout blocks yet.
>>
>> Seems like I must do some tests with multipage scores.
>
> Look at the current version on github. It should be able to handle multi-page
> snippets.
>
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Re: [NTG-context] A [paragraph] parameter to \startitemize seems not to work
Up;) Dnia 2011-08-07, o godz. 02:34:40 Marcin Borkowski napisał(a): > Hi, > > the manual says that > \startitemize[paragraph] > \item doesn't > \item leave > \item blank space > \item before the paragraph. > \stopitemize > But as the above example shows, this doesn't work. > > Is it a bug in ConTeXt, a bug in the manual or a bug in my brain? > > Regards, > -- Marcin Borkowski ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How to typeset ellipsis (=three dots)?
Dnia 2011-08-07, o godz. 11:35:39
Steffen Wolfrum napisał(a):
>
> Am 06.08.2011 um 23:39 schrieb Marcin Borkowski:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I looked into the \dots macro: I can see how it works in math mode,
> > but in text mode it puts a thin space (\,) after the dots. So what
> > is the right way to type, say, this sentence:
> >
> > "I like ConTeXt... but the learning curve is steep!"
> >
> > A. I like \CONTEXT\dots but the learning curve is steep!
> >
> > or
> >
> > B. I like \CONTEXT\dots\ but the learning curve is steep!
>
>
> What about this?
>
> I like \CONTEXT{\dots} but the learning curve is steep!
This I consider equivalent to "\dots\ " (at least in this, well,
context;)).
>
>
> Steffen
>
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Re: [NTG-context] How to typeset ellipsis (=three dots)?
Dnia 2011-08-07, o godz. 08:07:24 Wolfgang Schuster napisał(a): > > Am 06.08.2011 um 23:39 schrieb Marcin Borkowski: > > > Hi, > > > > I looked into the \dots macro: I can see how it works in math mode, > > but in text mode it puts a thin space (\,) after the dots. So what > > is the right way to type, say, this sentence: > > > > "I like ConTeXt... but the learning curve is steep!" > > > > A. I like \CONTEXT\dots but the learning curve is steep! > > > > or > > > > B. I like \CONTEXT\dots\ but the learning curve is steep! > > > > ? > > “\CONTEXT\unknown” or “\CONTEXT …” > > Wolfgang Thanks! Do I get it correctly that \unknown yields three characters (dots) in the resulting pdf and … one (if it's available in the font, at least)? Regards, -- Marcin Borkowski ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Fw: Pretty printing ConTeXt sources
Any ideas, please?
Data: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 01:34:05 +0200
Od: Marcin Borkowski
Do: ntg-context@ntg.nl
Temat: Re: [NTG-context] Pretty printing ConTeXt sources
Dnia 2011-08-05, o godz. 14:24:56
Wolfgang Schuster napisał(a):
>
> Am 04.08.2011 um 22:53 schrieb Marcin Borkowski:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm sure it was answered before, but I couldn't find it: how to
> > pretty-print ConTeXt (and lua) files (I mean especially ConTeXt
> > sources, but also module sources)?
>
> TeX: context --ctx=s-mod
> Lua: context --ctx=x-ldx
OK.
So I switched to a /tmp directory and did
context --ctx=s-mod pack-rul.mkiv
and no pdf was produced.
I copied pack-rul.mkiv to ~/tmp, did the same - then I got only the
title page and an error (log file below).
What am I doing wrong?
=== log file ===
(pack-rul.run
ConTeXt ver: 2011.07.21 19:17 MKIV fmt: 2011.7.22 int:
english/english
system > cont-new.mkiv loaded
(/home/marcin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkiv
system > beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.mkiv
)
system > pack-rul.top loaded
system > options > start used options
used options> % runtime options files (command line driven)
used options> \unprotect
used options> % feedback and basic job control
used options> % handy for special styles
used options> \startluacode
used options> document = document or { }
used options> document.arguments={
used options> ["ctx"]="s-mod",
used options> ["global"]=true,
used options> ["prep"]=true,
used options> }
used options> document.files={
used options> "pack-rul.mkiv",
used options> }
used options> \stopluacode
used options> % process info
used options> \setupsystem[inputfile=pack-rul.mkiv]
used options> \setupsystem[\c!n=1,\c!m=1]
used options> % modes
used options> % options (not that important)
used options> \startsetups *runtime:options
used options> \stopsetups
used options> % styles and modules
used options> \startsetups *runtime:modules
used options> \usemodule[mod-01]
used options> \stopsetups
used options> % done
used options> \protect \endinput
system > options > stop used options
(pack-rul.top)
fonts > latin modern fonts are not preloaded
languages > language en is active
resolvers > modules > loaded: 'mod-01'
(/home/marcin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/s-mod-01.mkiv
resolvers > modules > loaded: 'mod-00'
(/home/marcin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/s-mod-00.mkiv
resolvers > modules > loaded: 'units'
(/home/marcin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/m-units.mkiv<+
/home/marcin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/x-mathml.lua>)
resolvers > modules > loaded: 'int-load'
(/home/marcin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/x-set-11.mkiv))
resolvers > modules > loaded: 'abr-01'
(/home/marcin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/s-abr-01.tex)
fonts > preloading latin modern fonts (third stage)
(/home/marcin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-siz.mkiv)
(/home/marcin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-otf.mkiv)
files > readfile > asked name: 'loc', not found
{/home/marcin/context/tex/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-math.map}{/home/marcin/context/tex/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-rm.map}{/home/marcin/context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/mkiv-base.map}
fonts > virtual math > unable to resolve name mapsfromchar
fonts > fallback modern rm 10pt is loaded )
system > prepfiles > loading ctx log file (specified)
(pack-rul.mkiv.prep
backend > xmp > using file
'/home/marcin/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/lpdf-pdx.xml'
pages > flushing realpage 1, userpage 1, subpage 1
pages > flushing realpage 2, userpage 1 . . .
! Illegal parameter number in definition of \!!stringa.
system > tex > error on line 50 in file pack-rul.run: Illegal
parameter number in definition of ...
}
\docommand #1->\edef \currentmargindata {#1}
\getparameters [\??mc
\currentma... \dodomargeaanduidingen [#1]#2->\def \docommand ##
1{\indent \hbox {\ifx
#2\re... ...gen [linewidth, setuplinewidth]\tex
\scratchcounter
=\NOfMargi... \doifelsenothing #1->\edef \!!stringa {#1
}\ifx \!!stringa \empty
\expandafte... \domargindata ...ta ][#1]\fi \doifelsenothing {#3}
\donefalse \donetrue
\ifdo... ...
l.50 {linewidth, setuplinewidth}
? x
system > files > start used files
used files >1: filename=pack-rul.run | foundname=pack-rul.run
| usedmethod=direct used files >2: filename=cont-new.mkiv |
f
Re: [NTG-context] Lilypond
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
Am 2011-08-19 um 17:08 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:
But - can you even support different setups, say
\startlilypondpreamble
global settings for everything
\stoplilypondpreamble
\startlilypondpreamble[snippet]
global settings for snippets
\stoplilypondpreamble
\startlilypondpreamble[fullscore]
global settings for full scores
\stoplilypondpreamble
\startlilypond[setup=fullscore]
the score
\stoplilypond
etc.
Yes. I can support the following syntax:
\startbuffer[snippets] ... \stopbuffer
\startbuffer[fullscore] ... \stopbuffer
\startbuffer[common] ... \stopbuffer
\startlilypond[bufferbefore={snippets,common}, bufferafter={}]
\stoplilypond
(In fact, provide similar support for anything defined using the filter
module).
The other thing is to be able to change linespace, papersize, offset, etc
using parameters, so that one can say:
\startlilypond[linespace=...]
...
\stoplilypond
This will require some lua side processing.
You mean, translate ConTeXt-style settings to LilyPond settings, like we did
with the old module?
Yes.
That wouldn’t make much sense. LilyPond just has too much settings. And most
of them you can set in different ways. To fully support this, you’d need a
complete LilyPond parser including Scheme. And a small set of settings is
never the right set for everyone.
OK.
Ok, there are a few settings that we could translate, e.g. set ConTeXt’s main
fonts also for LilyPond.
Agreed. Does anyone know how to get the name of the current font in MkIV?
We don’t need LilyPond's layout settings, as long as we go the
\externalfigure path.
But I think that at least automatic paper size settings (set paper
size to be equal to text area) are needed.
I don’t know a solution for line breaking of scores - if you’d set LilyPond’s
page size to ConTeXt’s remaining space, it would stay the same for the second
page. Perhaps we can get single lines (systems) and let ConTeXt to the page
breaking. I’ll look into that.
OK.
But I don’t know how we can make it "right" WRT LilyPond snippets - I’d want
to align a note systems’s base line with ConTeXt’s text baseline, but the
height and clipping of a snippet depends on the visible elements. Without
some picture analysis (or runtime data from LilyPond, that doesn’t exist
AFAIK) you need to adjust your snippets manually.
Does lilypond-book handle this at all? It does not appear to. Manually
adjusting each inline snippet will be too much work, IMO.
Do you know how lilypond numbers its output files. In some cases I get
filename-1.pdf sometimes not. Can I force it to always give filename-1.pdf
or always give filename.pdf
LilyPond adds a number to EPS, if there’s more that one page.
But in my songbook setup, I always get a filename-temp-lilypond-##.eps plus
an identical filename-temp-lilypond-##-1.eps
When you order more than one \midi{} in several \score blocks, the first MIDI
file is unnumbered, the second gets number 1 etc.; didn’t try with different
\layout blocks yet.
Seems like I must do some tests with multipage scores.
Look at the current version on github. It should be able to handle
multi-page snippets.
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Re: [NTG-context] combining characters in stretchednormalcase
Hi,
Hans, what is the opposite of the following recipe (to make letters
shrink instead of stretch)?
\starttext
\definedfont[file:junicoderegular]
\kerncharacters{N.C.}
\stoptext
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