[NTG-context] Request to help categorizing commands on wiki
Dear ConTeXters, Jan Heinen did some heaving wiki editing in order to achieve better categorization of different topics on the wiki. One particular part where your help would be welcome is a big number of different commands listed here: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Category:Commands It would be great to assign one or more categories to each command. Sure, many commands are (still) missing, but once commands are categorized, it will be a lot easier to concentrate on - say - describing just interaction/color/font commands at once, and also to keep adding missing commands. The list of all commands together will be assembled later (once commands are categorized). All uncategorized commands are on top category Commands. Please replace that one with [[Category:Command/Some Category|commandname]] (or more than that) and in case that you need to create a new category, please add at least [[Category:Commands|Some Category]] to that Category page. Thanks a lot for help, Mojca PS: Text to the right of "|" in Category:*| is used for sorting (else all commands would end up under "C" for "Command/Whatevercommand"). ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Referencing a Document within the same Project
Hi all,
I am designing a document suite consisting of two dozen or so documents that
are all interrelated. I was wondering whether there is a way that I can define
a reference point for an entire document within a project and then refer to
that from another document, like
\document{global-definitions-document} % This is fictitious syntax
...in one document and then refer to that in another document:
For global definitions, please see \about{global-definitions-document}.
...or something along those lines.
Regards,
Malte.
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Re: [NTG-context] PDF Digital Signatures
2012/3/20 Mojca Miklavec : > If qpdf exists it is probably not a legal issue to do password protection > then. Of course. > But from the same perspective ... one first needs PDF to be (almost) > finished before being able to sign it. One needs to read as-good-as > the whole PDF, read the certificate from somewhere on the disk and > then sign with that certificate. If certificate is password-protected, > one also needs to provide the password somehow. You can technically sign only parts (IIRC streams) of a PDF. > government. On the other hand they could just as well have used some > standard tool and it would work out of the box. So much about signing > ... gpg is free. So is jpdfsign. See also http://wiki.cacert.org/PdfSigning Best Martin ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break
On Tue, 20 Mar 2012, Kip Warner wrote: On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 06:46 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: You can’t have a assignment in both parameters because this would lead to the same problem as before, combine both settings in one argument and it works. I must not be doing it right because the item numbers are gone now and replaced with hyphens: \startitemize[R,2*broad,before=\startlinecorrection,after= \stoplinecorrection,start=11] \setupitemize[left=(, right=)] \item foo. \item foo. \stopitemize You are back to square one :) You cannot mix options (R, 2*broad, anything without an = sign) with assignments (before=..., after=..., anything with an = sign). The format of \startitemize is \startitemize[options][assignments] or \startitemize[options] or \startitemize[assignments] Anything else will leave to undersirable behaviour (or segfaults :) ) As I had said in one of my earlier emails, this is the case for ALL context macros that take both options and assignments. Aditya___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 06:46 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > You can’t have a assignment in both parameters because this would lead > to the same problem as before, > combine both settings in one argument and it works. I must not be doing it right because the item numbers are gone now and replaced with hyphens: \startitemize[R,2*broad,before=\startlinecorrection,after= \stoplinecorrection,start=11] \setupitemize[left=(, right=)] \item foo. \item foo. \stopitemize -- Kip Warner -- Software Engineer OpenPGP encrypted/signed mail preferred http://www.thevertigo.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [luatex] Itemize without page break
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Kip Warner wrote: > On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 21:39 +0100, luigi scarso wrote: >> When TeX says >> ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [token memory size=<...>] >> it is its graceful way to exit from an irreversible situation. >> It can be caused by luatex or ConTeXt mkiv >> but it's *not* a segmentation fault, as you said early: >> >Actually highly probably, since the seg fault is raised in luatex and >> >not context. Even if context is feeding it malformed input, luatex >> >should not ever crash. >> Only luatex can do a segmentation fault -- of course due a tex macro >> /lua function possibly called from ConTeXt. >> What happen for me (linux ubuntu 10lts 32bit) and Hans (windows (7 >> professional 64bit ?) ) is a "TeX capacity exceeded," , not a seg. >> fault, and sometime happen if one calls a macro in a wrong way. >> So, do you have a segmentation fault or a TeX capacity exceeded on you >> linux 64bit box ? > > As I said earlier, I get a segmentation fault if I leave it to run, but > I always have to kill it before it takes down the entire operating > system with it (apparently this is normal). I don't get the TeX capacity > exceeded error message, as you saw from my earlier console output. Ok, this is not normal and I suspect that it's linux 64bit issue -- can be bug of luatex then. Can anyone confirm that on linux 64bit the following \starttext \startitemize[before=\startlinecorrection,after=\stoplinecorrection][] \item foo \stopitemize \stoptext gives a segmentation fault ? -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] getting xml instead of context
In the processing of incoming xml-data this is typeset as is, not as processed
text.
Thus for example: with \xmlflush{#1} the incoming data:
"its_content" is not typeset as: "its_content", but as:
its_content.
Substitution of \xmlcontext{#1}{.} for \xmlflush{#1} makes everything go away.
Allthough my program is a bit too long to present here, a minimal example is
the application of \xmlstripped{#1}{.} instead of \xmlflush{#1}; it has the
same result.
The output below shows how things looks and clarifies the issue; see the second
answer of the multiple choice.
How to process these data to neatly typeset material?
Hans van der Meer
xm-test-exam.pdf
Description: xm-test-exam.pdf
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Re: [NTG-context] [luatex] Itemize without page break
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 21:44 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: > sure, but mu experience is that browsers of email clients are way more > demanding than tex when it comes to memory usage I've never had either take down the entire operating system. There is a different from intended memory usage and unintended anyways. In this case, we are talking about the latter. > for tex it depends how much memory is permitted (there are some maxima > that can be set in configuration files) ... i must say that I never run > out of memory, although with doing extreme torture tests with many fonts > one can come pretty close Well, you saw what happened with my sample minimal. Anyways, if this is normal behaviour, that's fine, I just wanted to bring it to the list's attention. That's all. -- Kip Warner -- Software Engineer OpenPGP encrypted/signed mail preferred http://www.thevertigo.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF Digital Signatures
Le mardi 20 mars 2012 à 20:23 +0100, Mojca Miklavec a écrit : > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 23:12, Hans Hagen wrote: > > On 19-3-2012 22:08, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > >> > >> Out of curiosity: is inability to create password-protected PDF files > >> with pdfTeX/LuaTeX due to legal issues or due to nobody caring enough > >> to implement it? > > > > it's not worth the trouble. Afaik it's a second pass issue and would > > complicate the code much. > > > > Just use qpdf to do it ... pretty fast. > > If qpdf exists it is probably not a legal issue to do password protection > then. You mean strong encryption? Some countries, regimes I should rather say, are not in favour of such... Sad fact, IMHO. Signing a document digitally, should never be much of an issue, in your mentioned legal context, though. Well, needs to be honoured by the receiving party... but... hey, make regimes modern ! :) Cheers, mh > > But from the same perspective ... one first needs PDF to be (almost) > finished before being able to sign it. One needs to read as-good-as > the whole PDF, read the certificate from somewhere on the disk and > then sign with that certificate. If certificate is password-protected, > one also needs to provide the password somehow. > > The usecase would be sending documents to officials (proving that the > document really comes from the person claiming the ownership). But it > is also true that in principle one can sign emails with PDF > attachments. It is not the same, but it comes close. Another usecase > could be, say, sending invoices to clients. > > > We have a company that sells crappy software for signing PDFs and XML > for over 1000 EUR per version per browser per OS (each new version for > each supported browser on a single OS costs that much; and they have a > lot of clients). And of course it never works since of course it only > supports Mac OS X 10.6 (10.7 still doesn't work), on Windows only IE 7 > or Firefox 3.6 (latest Firefox won't work and it is awfully difficult > to find the old versions), on Linux probably a similar story (never > tried). And that is the only possible way to send any document to the > government. On the other hand they could just as well have used some > standard tool and it would work out of the box. So much about signing > ... > > Mojca > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [luatex] Itemize without page break
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 21:39 +0100, luigi scarso wrote: > When TeX says > ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [token memory size=<...>] > it is its graceful way to exit from an irreversible situation. > It can be caused by luatex or ConTeXt mkiv > but it's *not* a segmentation fault, as you said early: > >Actually highly probably, since the seg fault is raised in luatex and > >not context. Even if context is feeding it malformed input, luatex > >should not ever crash. > Only luatex can do a segmentation fault -- of course due a tex macro > /lua function possibly called from ConTeXt. > What happen for me (linux ubuntu 10lts 32bit) and Hans (windows (7 > professional 64bit ?) ) is a "TeX capacity exceeded," , not a seg. > fault, and sometime happen if one calls a macro in a wrong way. > So, do you have a segmentation fault or a TeX capacity exceeded on you > linux 64bit box ? As I said earlier, I get a segmentation fault if I leave it to run, but I always have to kill it before it takes down the entire operating system with it (apparently this is normal). I don't get the TeX capacity exceeded error message, as you saw from my earlier console output. -- Kip Warner -- Software Engineer OpenPGP encrypted/signed mail preferred http://www.thevertigo.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [luatex] Itemize without page break
On 20-3-2012 20:59, Kip Warner wrote:
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 20:26 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:
well you can try what happens if you run stock lua:
local t = { }
while true do
t[#t+1] = "just a bogus string: " .. (#t+1)
end
at some point your system will run out of (virtual) memory or lua will
run out of whatever its limits are
Of course. And the same could be done in C, C++, or really any language
that supports dynamic memory allocation. We just hope that programs that
are built from them won't do that.
sure, but mu experience is that browsers of email clients are way more
demanding than tex when it comes to memory usage
for tex it depends how much memory is permitted (there are some maxima
that can be set in configuration files) ... i must say that I never run
out of memory, although with doing extreme torture tests with many fonts
one can come pretty close
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] [luatex] Itemize without page break
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Kip Warner wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 20:26 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> well you can try what happens if you run stock lua:
>>
>> local t = { }
>> while true do
>> t[#t+1] = "just a bogus string: " .. (#t+1)
>> end
>>
>> at some point your system will run out of (virtual) memory or lua will
>> run out of whatever its limits are
>
> Of course. And the same could be done in C, C++, or really any language
> that supports dynamic memory allocation. We just hope that programs that
> are built from them won't do that.
When TeX says
! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [token memory size=<...>]
it is its graceful way to exit from an irreversible situation.
It can be caused by luatex or ConTeXt mkiv
but it's *not* a segmentation fault, as you said early:
>Actually highly probably, since the seg fault is raised in luatex and
>not context. Even if context is feeding it malformed input, luatex
>should not ever crash.
Only luatex can do a segmentation fault -- of course due a tex macro
/lua function possibly called from ConTeXt.
What happen for me (linux ubuntu 10lts 32bit) and Hans (windows (7
professional 64bit ?) ) is a "TeX capacity exceeded," , not a seg.
fault, and sometime happen if one calls a macro in a wrong way.
So, do you have a segmentation fault or a TeX capacity exceeded on you
linux 64bit box ?
--
luigi
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Re: [NTG-context] [luatex] Itemize without page break
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 20:26 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:
> well you can try what happens if you run stock lua:
>
> local t = { }
> while true do
> t[#t+1] = "just a bogus string: " .. (#t+1)
> end
>
> at some point your system will run out of (virtual) memory or lua will
> run out of whatever its limits are
Of course. And the same could be done in C, C++, or really any language
that supports dynamic memory allocation. We just hope that programs that
are built from them won't do that.
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Re: [NTG-context] [***SPAM***] Re: howto define MyRule ?
Am 20.03.2012 um 19:49 schrieb Hans Hagen: > On 20-3-2012 18:59, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > >> But nevertheless, isn't that already implied if I use "rulecommand=\MyRule"? >> To me this already means exactly this: "tell context it should use my rule". > > Then we need double checking and I'm pretty sure that you would run into > expansion mess again and ask for another hack. > > Hans Convinced ;o) Steffen ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF Digital Signatures
On 20-3-2012 20:23, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 23:12, Hans Hagen wrote: On 19-3-2012 22:08, Mojca Miklavec wrote: Out of curiosity: is inability to create password-protected PDF files with pdfTeX/LuaTeX due to legal issues or due to nobody caring enough to implement it? it's not worth the trouble. Afaik it's a second pass issue and would complicate the code much. Just use qpdf to do it ... pretty fast. If qpdf exists it is probably not a legal issue to do password protection then. Why? Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [luatex] Itemize without page break
On 20-3-2012 19:59, Kip Warner wrote:
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 16:57 +0200, Khaled Hosny wrote:
Older TeX engines had hard memory limit, so in case of such
"syntactical" errors the engine would consume all its allocated memory
and die (with a misleading error message), LuaTeX dynamically allocates
memory (for good reasons) so it won't stop before consuming all your
available memory, its the responsibility of an operating system to
prevent such a faulty application from taking the whole system down.
I'd be very interested in seeing the operating system memory manager's
algorithm that could do such a remarkable thing.
well you can try what happens if you run stock lua:
local t = { }
while true do
t[#t+1] = "just a bogus string: " .. (#t+1)
end
at some point your system will run out of (virtual) memory or lua will
run out of whatever its limits are
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] PDF Digital Signatures
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 23:12, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 19-3-2012 22:08, Mojca Miklavec wrote: >> >> Out of curiosity: is inability to create password-protected PDF files >> with pdfTeX/LuaTeX due to legal issues or due to nobody caring enough >> to implement it? > > it's not worth the trouble. Afaik it's a second pass issue and would > complicate the code much. > > Just use qpdf to do it ... pretty fast. If qpdf exists it is probably not a legal issue to do password protection then. But from the same perspective ... one first needs PDF to be (almost) finished before being able to sign it. One needs to read as-good-as the whole PDF, read the certificate from somewhere on the disk and then sign with that certificate. If certificate is password-protected, one also needs to provide the password somehow. The usecase would be sending documents to officials (proving that the document really comes from the person claiming the ownership). But it is also true that in principle one can sign emails with PDF attachments. It is not the same, but it comes close. Another usecase could be, say, sending invoices to clients. We have a company that sells crappy software for signing PDFs and XML for over 1000 EUR per version per browser per OS (each new version for each supported browser on a single OS costs that much; and they have a lot of clients). And of course it never works since of course it only supports Mac OS X 10.6 (10.7 still doesn't work), on Windows only IE 7 or Firefox 3.6 (latest Firefox won't work and it is awfully difficult to find the old versions), on Linux probably a similar story (never tried). And that is the only possible way to send any document to the government. On the other hand they could just as well have used some standard tool and it would work out of the box. So much about signing ... Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] xmlinclude
Can someone tell me what \xmlinclude is supposed to do? I have experimented a
lot but didn't come further to an understanding.
I have called it through:
\startxmlsetups xam:include
\xmlinclude{#1}{include}{file}
\stopxmlsetups
from a node include in:
and indeed \enabletrackers[lxml.loading]gives me in the log:
xml > tex > loading file './xm-test-problem.xml' as 'problem'
But then nothing seemed to have happened. The xml-node in that file is never
seen. I checked that by listing all these nodes in the log
(\xmlcommand{\xmldocument}..)
The and others are listed, but not the contents of the file I thought
I had included.
Clearly I have some misunderstanding here as to what the manual implicates. It
states:
"\xmlinclude{node}{lpath}{attribute} includes the file specified by attribute
of the element located by lpath at node node."
I take this 'node' ast the node from where the lpath is rooted, but I might be
mistaken.
And most of all: what happens to the included file and how can I approach/use
its contents?
I would appreciate an enlightment. Thanks in advance.
Hans van der Meer
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Re: [NTG-context] [luatex] Itemize without page break
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 16:57 +0200, Khaled Hosny wrote: > Older TeX engines had hard memory limit, so in case of such > "syntactical" errors the engine would consume all its allocated memory > and die (with a misleading error message), LuaTeX dynamically allocates > memory (for good reasons) so it won't stop before consuming all your > available memory, its the responsibility of an operating system to > prevent such a faulty application from taking the whole system down. I'd be very interested in seeing the operating system memory manager's algorithm that could do such a remarkable thing. -- Kip Warner -- Software Engineer OpenPGP encrypted/signed mail preferred http://www.thevertigo.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 09:17 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: > which is not really a crash of my operating system; there is not much > I > can do about this issue I fear. Totally up to you. I just wanted to bring it to your attention. -- Kip Warner -- Software Engineer OpenPGP encrypted/signed mail preferred http://www.thevertigo.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [***SPAM***] Re: howto define MyRule ?
On 20-3-2012 18:59, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: But nevertheless, isn't that already implied if I use "rulecommand=\MyRule"? To me this already means exactly this: "tell context it should use my rule". Then we need double checking and I'm pretty sure that you would run into expansion mess again and ask for another hack. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] [***SPAM***] Re: howto define MyRule ?
Am 20.03.2012 um 17:45 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: > > Am 20.03.2012 um 17:35 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum: > >> >> Am 20.03.2012 um 14:42 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: >> >>> You have to enable you own command with “rule=command” but then you have to >>> set rulecolor and rule thickness in your own definition (best us \blackrule >>> for this). >> >> >> rule=command,rulecommand=\MyRule >> >> instead of >> >> rulecommand=\MyRule >> >> hm ... this logic I didn't not yet internalize. > > You have to tell context it should use your own rule instead of the default > rule, it’s like “alternative=command” for other setups. Sure, I know what you mean. But nevertheless, isn't that already implied if I use "rulecommand=\MyRule"? To me this already means exactly this: "tell context it should use my rule". Steffen ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [OT] WinEDT with Unicode support
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > Hello, > > WinEDT finally has Unicode support and the screenshot shows ConTeXt in > typesetting menu as well (no idea if that runs texexec or context). Maybe "T" means pdftex engine, "L" luatex. -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] [OT] WinEDT with Unicode support
Hello, WinEDT finally has Unicode support and the screenshot shows ConTeXt in typesetting menu as well (no idea if that runs texexec or context). http://winedt.com It has been my first TeX editor and I liked it a lot because of newbie-friendliness (lots of tex characters in menu, so no need to remember all commands, no need to deal with command line). I'm not sure how well it is adapted for ConTeXt users and it is windows only, but it has always been my nearly favourite editor. It supports both TeX Live 2011 and latest MikTeX. (Maybe I could ask Alex for additional support for ConTeXt distribution :) Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] howto define MyRule ?
Am 20.03.2012 um 17:35 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum: > > Am 20.03.2012 um 14:42 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: > >> You have to enable you own command with “rule=command” but then you have to >> set rulecolor and rule thickness in your own definition (best us \blackrule >> for this). > > > rule=command,rulecommand=\MyRule > > instead of > > rulecommand=\MyRule > > hm ... this logic I didn't not yet internalize. You have to tell context it should use your own rule instead of the default rule, it’s like “alternative=command” for other setups. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] how to \setnumber[footnote]
Am 20.03.2012 um 17:01 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>
> Am 20.03.2012 um 09:16 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>
>>
>> ... and what is the new syntax for \setnumber[footnote]?
>>
>> (the old notation \setnumber[footnote]{123} now results in printing the
>> figures "123")
>
> You need brackets for both arguments (i.e. \setnumber[footnote][123]), this
> was changed because
> braces are used for arguments which are printed (e.g. \startdescription{…}).
yes, great decision to change this. this way context gets more and more
stringent.
thank you! st.
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Re: [NTG-context] howto define MyRule ?
Am 20.03.2012 um 14:42 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: > You have to enable you own command with “rule=command” but then you have to > set rulecolor and rule thickness in your own definition (best us \blackrule > for this). rule=command,rulecommand=\MyRule instead of rulecommand=\MyRule hm ... this logic I didn't not yet internalize. Thanks, Steffen ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] how to \setnumber[footnote]
Am 20.03.2012 um 09:16 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
>
> ... and what is the new syntax for \setnumber[footnote]?
>
> (the old notation \setnumber[footnote]{123} now results in printing the
> figures "123")
You need brackets for both arguments (i.e. \setnumber[footnote][123]), this was
changed because
braces are used for arguments which are printed (e.g. \startdescription{…}).
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] [luatex] Itemize without page break
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 08:21:35AM +0100, Patrick Gundlach wrote: > > Am 20.03.2012 um 06:49 schrieb Kip Warner: > > > On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 06:46 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > >> TeX has it’s problem with certain errors, accept it. > > > > It is not a problem with the program raising an error, it was how it > > went about doing it. It should not have to take down the entire > > operating system to indicate to the user that there was a non-intuitive > > syntactical error in typesetting. > > > I also agree that a segfault is not an acceptable behavior of a > program, regardless of the input (unless you are doing low level > stuff). But it is not clear if this is a problem on the ConTeXt side > or the LuaTeX side. It did not segfault, it just consumed all available memory :) A sane operating system wouldn't allow any program to do this (mine is not sane, I know, but luatex is hardly the only program that does this to me). Regards, Khaled ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [luatex] Itemize without page break
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 10:49:48PM -0700, Kip Warner wrote: > On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 06:46 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > > TeX has it’s problem with certain errors, accept it. > > It is not a problem with the program raising an error, it was how it > went about doing it. It should not have to take down the entire > operating system to indicate to the user that there was a non-intuitive > syntactical error in typesetting. Older TeX engines had hard memory limit, so in case of such "syntactical" errors the engine would consume all its allocated memory and die (with a misleading error message), LuaTeX dynamically allocates memory (for good reasons) so it won't stop before consuming all your available memory, its the responsibility of an operating system to prevent such a faulty application from taking the whole system down. Regards, Khaled ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] howto define MyRule ?
Am 20.03.2012 um 10:10 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
> Hi,
>
> how can I define the length of footnote's rule and the distance below it?
> "rulecommand" doesn't seem to take these values (see below).
You have to enable you own command with “rule=command” but then you have to set
rulecolor and rule thickness in your own definition (best us \blackrule for
this).
The distance between the rule and the notes has to be added (you use \blank) in
the rule definition but a “inbetween” key would be more convenient.
\def\strc_notes_place_inserts_indeed
{\relax
\ifdim\ht\currentnoteins>\zeropoint
\endgraf
\ifvmode
\whitespace
\noteparameter\c!before
\fi
%\bgroup
%\setupalign[\noteparameter\c!align]%
\placenoterule % alleen in ..mode
%\par
%\egroup
+\ifvmode
+ \noteparameter\c!inbetween
+\fi
\bgroup
\strc_notes_set_bodyfont
\setbox\scratchbox\hbox
{\strc_notes_flush_inserts}%
\setbox\scratchbox\hbox
{\setupcurrentnote
[\c!location=,
\c!width=\v!fit,
\c!height=\v!fit,
\c!strut=\v!no,
\c!offset=\v!overlay]%
\inheritednoteframed
{\ifdim\dp\scratchbox=\zeropoint % this hack is needed
because \vadjust
\hbox{\lower\strutdp\box\scratchbox}% % in margin number placement
\else % hides the (always) present
depth
\box\scratchbox
\fi}}%
\setbox\scratchbox\hbox{\lower\strutdepth\box\scratchbox}%
\dp\scratchbox\strutdepth % so we know that it has the note bodyfont depth
\box\scratchbox
\egroup
\endgraf
\ifvmode
\noteparameter\c!after
\fi
\fi}
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] figures' captions
Hi,
this is continuing of my last question.
Please, what is wrong with this?
\enableregime[utf]
\mainlanguage[en]
\setuppapersize[A5][A5]
\definefloat[figure][figures]
\setupcaption[figure][align=left]
\starttext
\input tufte
\placefigure[left]{sdf}{\externalfigure[none][width=5cm]}
\input tufte
\stoptext
It seems align parameter is always ignored. I have the caption centered all
the time (nothing helps, align right, flushleft...)
Thanks, Honza
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Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 20-3-2012 06:49, Kip Warner wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 06:46 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>>>
>>> TeX has it’s problem with certain errors, accept it.
>>
>>
>> It is not a problem with the program raising an error, it was how it
>> went about doing it. It should not have to take down the entire
>> operating system to indicate to the user that there was a non-intuitive
>> syntactical error in typesetting.
>
>
> tex is a macro language and that has benefits but also drawbacks; as soon as
> you end up in unwanted expansion things can get nasty; anyhow, I get
>
> Runaway argument?
> {before=\startlinecorrection ,after= \stoplinecorrection
> }]{\dodoubleemptyYESone \ETC.
> ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [token memory size=90996078].
>
> which is not really a crash of my operating system; there is not much I can
> do about this issue I fear.
>
Even here
Runaway argument?
{before=\startlinecorrection ,after=\stoplinecorrection
}]{\dodoubleemptyYESone \ETC.
! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [token memory size=188689465].
on Linux 32bit kernel (on a 64bit processor) -- is the example on a
64bit kernel ?
--
luigi
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[NTG-context] placefigure vs grid problem
Hello,
I have found that placing figures in grid mode does problems with
[left,right...] parameters. The figure brokes the text flow. (It suffice to
turn grid=yes.)
Any solution, please?
Thanks, Honza
\enableregime[utf]
\mainlanguage[cz]
\setuppapersize[A5][A5]
\setuplayout[
*grid=yes*
]
\setupindenting[1em]
\indenting[yes]
\setupexternalfigures[]
\setupfloats[spaceafter=none]
\setupcaptions[location={bottom,left}]
\setuptolerance[tolerant]
\starttext
\chapter{{Předmluva}}
Za výstup projektu je také možno považovat i fakt, že ze studií vznikly a
byly úspěšně obhájeny dvě diplomové práce a před dokončením jsou i dvě
práce doktorské.\footnote{Jedná se o~diplomové práce K. Kukanové a M.
Wagnera (na katedře právních dějin) a doktorské dizertace J. Pleskota a T.
Jablonického (na katedeře právních dějin a na Ústavu právních dějin
Právnické fakulty UK).}
\placefigure[left]{}{\externalfigure[none][width=3.5cm]}
Problematika různých forem majetkových perzekucí a zásadních změn
v majetkových vztazích v historické retrospektivě je nejen čistě historicko
právní otázkou, ale má i řadu přesahů do platného práva, do dalších oborů a
do současných celospolečenských diskuzí. Vlastnické právo a jeho ochrana
patří k základním atributům demokratického právního státu budovaného u~nás
po roce 1989 a ochrana soukromoprávních vztahů v oblasti věcných práv je
spojena i se šířeji pojatou svobodou jednotlivce a jejím zajištění proti
zásahům státní (veřejné) moci.
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] howto define MyRule ?
Hi,
how can I define the length of footnote's rule and the distance below it?
"rulecommand" doesn't seem to take these values (see below).
Steffen
---
\setupnote[footnote]
[rulecolor=orange,% OK
rulecommand={\vrule width10mm\vskip10mm},% ???
rulethickness=5pt]% OK
\starttext
text\footnote{test}.
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break
On 20-3-2012 06:49, Kip Warner wrote:
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 06:46 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
TeX has it’s problem with certain errors, accept it.
It is not a problem with the program raising an error, it was how it
went about doing it. It should not have to take down the entire
operating system to indicate to the user that there was a non-intuitive
syntactical error in typesetting.
tex is a macro language and that has benefits but also drawbacks; as
soon as you end up in unwanted expansion things can get nasty; anyhow, I get
Runaway argument?
{before=\startlinecorrection ,after= \stoplinecorrection
}]{\dodoubleemptyYESone \ETC.
! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [token memory size=90996078].
which is not really a crash of my operating system; there is not much I
can do about this issue I fear.
Hans
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[NTG-context] how to \setnumber[footnote]
... and what is the new syntax for \setnumber[footnote]?
(the old notation \setnumber[footnote]{123} now results in printing the figures
"123")
Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] Itemize without page break
On 20-3-2012 01:43, Kip Warner wrote: On Mon, 2012-03-19 at 22:49 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: On 19-3-2012 00:29, Kip Warner wrote: I've cc'd the luatex user mailing list since this is probably, I suppose, a luatex issue more than a ConTeXt one. not that probable Actually highly probably, since the seg fault is raised in luatex and not context. Even if context is feeding it malformed input, luatex should not ever crash. it depends ... if some node list juggling happens in macros/lua code and something is done wrong there, one can run out of memory (for instance) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] [***SPAM***] Re: subfootnote with wrong structureconversionset
Am 20.03.2012 um 06:17 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: > > Am 19.03.2012 um 22:27 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum: > >> Hi, >> >> are subfootnotes not yet rewritten, or did the syntax change? >> >> The following example expects 2.a but gives 2.1: >> >> \definestructureseparatorset [footnote][][] >> \definestructureconversionset[footnote][numbers,characters][numbers] >> \setupenumerations[footnote][numberconversionset=footnote,numberseparatorset=footnote] > > Use \setupnotation[footnote][…]. Right, thank you! The new footnote structure seems to tidy up and settle things neatly in \setupnote and \setupnotation. (eg. numbercommand now looks indeed more reasonable to me in setupnotation than it did before on setupnote) As it grows older ConTeXt gets more and more beautiful ;o) Steffen ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] overprinting of black text – solved
Hello,
I have solved my old question connected with preflight and overprinting of
pure text. Now I am able to have clean output, the last warning (just info)
is about the fact context files have fonts embedded like CID Type 1 fonts.
I am using this colors setup:
\definecolor[cmykblack][c=0,m=0,y=0,k=1]
\setupcolors[rgb=no,cmyk=yes,spot=yes,textcolor=cmykblack,intent=overprint]
This works well for the body. For footnotes I need to use this:
\def\numfoo#1{\startcolorintent[overprint] #1 \stopcolorintent}
\setupnotation[footnote][numbercommand=\numfoo,before={\startcolorintent[overprint]},after={\stopcolorintent}]
Just want to share that.
Honza
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Re: [NTG-context] [luatex] Itemize without page break
Am 20.03.2012 um 06:49 schrieb Kip Warner: > On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 06:46 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: >> TeX has it’s problem with certain errors, accept it. > > It is not a problem with the program raising an error, it was how it > went about doing it. It should not have to take down the entire > operating system to indicate to the user that there was a non-intuitive > syntactical error in typesetting. I also agree that a segfault is not an acceptable behavior of a program, regardless of the input (unless you are doing low level stuff). But it is not clear if this is a problem on the ConTeXt side or the LuaTeX side. Patrick ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
