Re: [NTG-context] Rendering differences between PDF viewers

[Martin Schröder]

2012/4/18 Kip Warner :
> I stuck it in my environment file. I wonder if there is a safer way of
> doing this than via "inline asm", so to speak. Also, maybe for my
> benefit, and anybody else having the same problem, you might be able to
> explain what was happening?

Adobe Reader needs a special object in the page for it to handle
included pdfs or pngs with transparency correctly on the first page
(search for pdftex and "page groups".) pdfTeX tries to fix this
automagically for years (1.40.6, I think) by synthesizing this object,
but Hans rejects any automagic solution for LuaTeX (since it may
conflict with mechanisms of ConTeXt) and ConTeXt instead tries to do
the right thing. Here it obviously fails.

Best
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Re: [NTG-context] Bibtex with ConTeXt mkiv

[Kip Warner]

On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 10:41 +0200, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> That's weird. It is probably a bug in Hans' reimplementation of the
> bib module for mkiv. 

I've cc'd Hans in case he has something to offer on that.

> But it is fairly simple to work around, using a
> new macro definition like this:
> 
>\unexpanded\def\mycite{\dodoubleempty\domycite}
>\def\domycite[#1][#2]%
>  {\ifsecondargument
> \footnote{\cite[alternative=data,#1][#2]}%
>   \else
> \footnote{\cite[data][#1]}%
>   \fi}
> 
> Then \mycite[] also inserts the \footnote command automatically,
> and you can still use \mycite[extras={...}][].

That works awesome Taco. Thanks a lot. It doesn't matter that it can't
accept multiple keys easily and put on their own lines, since it
wouldn't make sense if you've got extra={} data to add anyways.

> Perhaps, but I have never seen it done like that, and it takes more
> than a bit of programming to make the bibliography module do that.
> Sorry, no time for that.

It's ok. You've done more than enough.

> No, you can't do that. Hans would have to write an extension for
> that, I do not even know where to start.

Understandable.

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[NTG-context] Including font with document source

[Kip Warner]

Hey list,

Is there a way to include a set of font files with a ConTeXt document's
source files such that a path to the directory containing the font can
be directly specified in the environment? I was thinking that if it were
possible to do this already, the simplefonts module might have a setup
for this.

The reason why I'd like to consider this is to make it easier on my
users who wish to build my document from source without them having to
manually download a font and figure out how to install it on their given
platform.

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Re: [NTG-context] Rendering differences between PDF viewers

[Kip Warner]

On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 12:48 +0200, Peter Rolf wrote:
> Hi Kip,
> 
> give it a try and add this to you document...
> 
> 
> \startluacode
> 
> backends= backendsor { }
> backends.codeinjections = backends.codeinjections or { }
> 
> function backends.codeinjections.rgbtransparencygroup()
> local d = lpdf.dictionary {
> S  = lpdf.constant("Transparency"),
> CS = lpdf.constant("DeviceRGB"),
> I  = true }
> lpdf.registerpagefinalizer(function()
> lpdf.addtopageattributes("Group",d) end)
> end
> 
> backends.codeinjections.rgbtransparencygroup()
> 
> \stopluacode
> 
> 
> This does not work, if you also use CMYK based graphics/pictures in your
> document (as this is done document wide).

You know Peter, I must admit. ConTeXt has made me rather cynical at
times. I don't know how many times I've tried a snippet of this or that,
only to have it do exactly what I hadn't intended. Having said that,
every now and then I am blown away when something I never expected to
actually get working, gets working. Thank you so much, that worked
beautifully. Both Evince (poppler based) and AR look identical now.

I stuck it in my environment file. I wonder if there is a safer way of
doing this than via "inline asm", so to speak. Also, maybe for my
benefit, and anybody else having the same problem, you might be able to
explain what was happening?

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Re: [NTG-context] Comma separating multiple footnotes

[Kip Warner]

On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 22:13 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> ok, will be added

Hey Hans. Should it be 

\setupnote[footnote][textseparator=…], or

\setupnotation[footnote][textseparator=…] ?

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Re: [NTG-context] Rendering differences between PDF viewers

[Kip Warner]

On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 11:53 +0200, Peter Rolf wrote:
> I might be wrong, but is this color shift not just a 'page group'
> problem, caused by the transparent PNG?

I don't know, but even the image on the upper right aside, the rest of
the page's colours are off as well.

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Re: [NTG-context] Rendering differences between PDF viewers

[Kip Warner]

On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 09:31 +0200, luigi scarso wrote:
> Every pdf for general use should be checked at least with the latest
> AdobeReader under windows, which is currently one of the best pdf
> viewer.

I think a better approach would be to consider Adobe's PDF specification
as reference material, but not implementations of it that we cannot
audit that may or may not have done so correctly.

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Re: [NTG-context] Rendering differences between PDF viewers

[Kip Warner]

On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 10:54 +0200, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> Hi Kip,
> 
> the attached screenshot is from Acrobat Pro 10.1.3 on OSX 10.7.
> Looks good to me. I guess your color management setup is wrong.
> 
> Greetlings, Hraban

Hey Hrabab. Your looks much better than AR's, but it still doesn't look
the same as on my end. It looks much brighter.

I wonder if there is some additional information renderer's need, such
as a value for gamma correction or a colour profile that I need to stuff
in my environment file to make it work?

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Re: [NTG-context] Notepad++ configuration

[Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد]

On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:49:18 -0600, Luiz Borges   
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Hello Hans,
There is a page on the wiki
(http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Notepad%2B%2B) but it was modified 3
years ago and targets a 2007 version of Notepad++ (4.2).


Actually 2009: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/File:Npp_ConTeXt-Uni.zip

But it's about time for an update, which I will aim to do by this Friday.

Everybody: If there is anybody who can compile a C++ plugin on this list  
there are some trivial tweaks we can do to make this even more useful.  
Just let me know!


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Re: [NTG-context] Notepad++ configuration

[Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد]

Hi Jaroslav,

On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:43:26 -0600, Hans Hagen  wrote:



On 17-4-2012 21:33, Luiz Borges wrote:

Hi Jaroslav,
Notepad++ also supports TeX out the box, but I don't know if it can be
configured to provide autocompletion and which Run Commands I need to
create (and how). SciTE and Notepad++ shares the same base
(Scintilla), but Notepad++ is far more polished.


Idris is the notepad ++ expert (isn't there a wiki page on it?) One  
problem I have with notepad ++ is that it's not cross platform while  
scite runs on win and lin (and on osx but there it somehow lacks lpeg  
lexer support).


I'm happy to help you with N++. Even last week I searched to see if  
something better came along, but nothing yet ... I've implemented some  
more (experimental) context features to make n++ even more useful, like  
right-click tagging of commonly used commands etc. Everything else you  
mentioned is already there.


Right now I'm at work but write me privately and let's chat tomorrow if  
you are available.


WRT Hans' important point: N++ has global bidi support, and is much more  
configurable by non-developers like myself. I simply have not found  
anything x-platform that comes close.


OTOH, I tried to keep most of the ConTeXt shortcuts the same as Hans'  
Scite configuration. so users can jump from one to the other with ease.


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Re: [NTG-context] Comma separating multiple footnotes

[Hans Hagen]

On 13-4-2012 15:58, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:


I wrote a patch for the footnote code where you can set a symbol between the 
numbers with \setupnote[footnote][textseparator=…] but it’s decision to include 
it.


ok, will be added


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Re: [NTG-context] Notepad++ configuration

[John Devereux]

Luiz Borges  writes:

> Can anybody tell me how to correctly configure Notepad++ to use
> ConTeXt? I'm just starting with ConTeXt (and Tex BTW) and Scite seems
> to be too unpolished. One advantage that I can see of Scite over
> Notepad++ is that it has some autocompletion, besides that I think the
> interface and its "tools" are terrible.
>
> Also, is there anyother noteworthy editor that works nicely with
> standalone context? Preferably with spell-check and auto-completion.

There is also texworks.

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Re: [NTG-context] Notepad++ configuration

[Luiz Borges]

Hello Hans,
There is a page on the wiki
(http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Notepad%2B%2B) but it was modified 3
years ago and targets a 2007 version of Notepad++ (4.2).

Luiz Borges


2012/4/17 Hans Hagen :
> On 17-4-2012 21:33, Luiz Borges wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jaroslav,
>> Notepad++ also supports TeX out the box, but I don't know if it can be
>> configured to provide autocompletion and which Run Commands I need to
>> create (and how). SciTE and Notepad++ shares the same base
>> (Scintilla), but Notepad++ is far more polished.
>
>
> Idris is the notepad ++ expert (isn't there a wiki page on it?) One problem
> I have with notepad ++ is that it's not cross platform while scite runs on
> win and lin (and on osx but there it somehow lacks lpeg lexer support).
>
> Hans
>
>
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Re: [NTG-context] Notepad++ configuration

[Jaroslav Hajtmar]

Hi Luiz,
The PSPad can run many external programs (. BAT. EXE). You can set 
several compilers for a given file type (ie LaTeX compilation, LuaTEX, 
ConTeXt, XeTEX, ...) and i autocompletations. This can be set quite 
easily (three or four click on setup menu ...)..


Jaroslav


Dne 17.4.2012 21:33, Luiz Borges napsal(a):

Hi Jaroslav,
Notepad++ also supports TeX out the box, but I don't know if it can be
configured to provide autocompletion and which Run Commands I need to
create (and how). SciTE and Notepad++ shares the same base
(Scintilla), but Notepad++ is far more polished.

Regards,
Luiz Borges

2012/4/17 Jaroslav Hajtmar:
   

Hi Luiz
I recommend PSPad (http://www.pspad.com/en/) Try it.
I can not say that directly support ConTeXt, but TeX quite understand.
SciTE seems flawless, but I'm so used to PSPad that I can leave it :-).

Jaroslav Hajtmar


Dne 17.4.2012 20:31, Luiz Borges napsal(a):
 

Can anybody tell me how to correctly configure Notepad++ to use
ConTeXt? I'm just starting with ConTeXt (and Tex BTW) and Scite seems
to be too unpolished. One advantage that I can see of Scite over
Notepad++ is that it has some autocompletion, besides that I think the
interface and its "tools" are terrible.

Also, is there anyother noteworthy editor that works nicely with
standalone context? Preferably with spell-check and auto-completion.

Regards,
Luiz Borges

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Re: [NTG-context] Notepad++ configuration

[Hans Hagen]

On 17-4-2012 21:33, Luiz Borges wrote:

Hi Jaroslav,
Notepad++ also supports TeX out the box, but I don't know if it can be
configured to provide autocompletion and which Run Commands I need to
create (and how). SciTE and Notepad++ shares the same base
(Scintilla), but Notepad++ is far more polished.


Idris is the notepad ++ expert (isn't there a wiki page on it?) One 
problem I have with notepad ++ is that it's not cross platform while 
scite runs on win and lin (and on osx but there it somehow lacks lpeg 
lexer support).


Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] Notepad++ configuration

[Peter Münster]

On Tue, Apr 17 2012, Luiz Borges wrote:

> Also, is there anyother noteworthy editor that works nicely with
> standalone context? Preferably with spell-check and auto-completion.

Emacs.

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Re: [NTG-context] Notepad++ configuration

[Luiz Borges]

Hi Jaroslav,
Notepad++ also supports TeX out the box, but I don't know if it can be
configured to provide autocompletion and which Run Commands I need to
create (and how). SciTE and Notepad++ shares the same base
(Scintilla), but Notepad++ is far more polished.

Regards,
Luiz Borges

2012/4/17 Jaroslav Hajtmar :
> Hi Luiz
> I recommend PSPad (http://www.pspad.com/en/) Try it.
> I can not say that directly support ConTeXt, but TeX quite understand.
> SciTE seems flawless, but I'm so used to PSPad that I can leave it :-).
>
> Jaroslav Hajtmar
>
>
> Dne 17.4.2012 20:31, Luiz Borges napsal(a):
>>
>> Can anybody tell me how to correctly configure Notepad++ to use
>> ConTeXt? I'm just starting with ConTeXt (and Tex BTW) and Scite seems
>> to be too unpolished. One advantage that I can see of Scite over
>> Notepad++ is that it has some autocompletion, besides that I think the
>> interface and its "tools" are terrible.
>>
>> Also, is there anyother noteworthy editor that works nicely with
>> standalone context? Preferably with spell-check and auto-completion.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Luiz Borges
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Re: [NTG-context] Rendering differences between PDF viewers

[Kip Warner]

On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 09:12 +0200, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
> With one MAJOR difference: for Acrobat reader, one is dependent on the whims 
> and desires of Adobe (and its paying market); the other pdf viewers are open 
> source.

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[NTG-context] Notepad++ configuration

[Luiz Borges Gomide do Nascimento]

Can anybody tell me how to correctly configure Notepad++ to use
ConTeXt? I'm just starting with ConTeXt (and Tex BTW) and Scite seems
to be too unpolished. One advantage that I can see of Scite over
Notepad++ is that it has some autocompletion, besides that I think the
interface and its "tools" are terrible.

Also, is there anyother noteworthy editor that works nicely with
standalone context? Preferably with spell-check and auto-completion.

Regards,
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Re: [NTG-context] Notepad++ configuration

[Jaroslav Hajtmar]

Hi Luiz
I recommend PSPad (http://www.pspad.com/en/) Try it.
I can not say that directly support ConTeXt, but TeX quite understand.
SciTE seems flawless, but I'm so used to PSPad that I can leave it :-).

Jaroslav Hajtmar


Dne 17.4.2012 20:31, Luiz Borges napsal(a):

Can anybody tell me how to correctly configure Notepad++ to use
ConTeXt? I'm just starting with ConTeXt (and Tex BTW) and Scite seems
to be too unpolished. One advantage that I can see of Scite over
Notepad++ is that it has some autocompletion, besides that I think the
interface and its "tools" are terrible.

Also, is there anyother noteworthy editor that works nicely with
standalone context? Preferably with spell-check and auto-completion.

Regards,
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[NTG-context] Notepad++ configuration

[Luiz Borges]

Can anybody tell me how to correctly configure Notepad++ to use
ConTeXt? I'm just starting with ConTeXt (and Tex BTW) and Scite seems
to be too unpolished. One advantage that I can see of Scite over
Notepad++ is that it has some autocompletion, besides that I think the
interface and its "tools" are terrible.

Also, is there anyother noteworthy editor that works nicely with
standalone context? Preferably with spell-check and auto-completion.

Regards,
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Re: [NTG-context] How to get \structurenumber and \structuretitle by Lua?

[Hans Hagen]

On 17-4-2012 17:13, Procházka Lukáš Ing. - Pontex s. r. o. wrote:

Hello,

values of number and title of the current (sub...)section can be
received by \structurenumber and \structuretitle commands.

Is there a way how to get these values by Lua?


structures.sections.getnumber(2)

gives the number at level 2


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[NTG-context] How to get \structurenumber and \structuretitle by Lua?

[Procházka Lukáš Ing . - Pontex s . r . o .]

Hello,

values of number and title of the current (sub...)section can be received by 
\structurenumber and \structuretitle commands.

Is there a way how to get these values by Lua?

Suppose:


\starttext
  \section{Sec 1}
  % Now "\structurenumber" yields "1" and "\structuretitle" gives "Sec 1"

  % How to get "1" and "Sec 1" from Lua?

  \startluacode
print(0, context["structuretitle"])
print(1, context["structuretitle"]())
print(2, context.getvalue("structuretitle"))
print(3, context.constants("structuretitle"))
print(4, context.variables("structuretitle"))
  \stopluacode
\stoptext


My attempts don't give any useful value (or some of them are even erroneous).

I have no idea how to get the texts "1" and "Sec 1".

Any hints would be appreciated...

Best regards,

Lukas


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Re: [NTG-context] Project structure, (simple)font woes

[Willi Egger]

On 16 Apr 2012, at 13:27, luigi scarso wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Wolfgang Schuster
>  wrote:
> 
>> BTW: I can give a talk about typescripts and font loading at the next 
>> conference when there is interest in this.
> +1
+1
This is for sure a good idea!

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Re: [NTG-context] doublesided PDF - first and last page singlesided

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 17.04.2012 um 13:02 schrieb Jan Heinen:

> Hello,
> 
> someone, who understood what I want to achieve?
> 
> http://www.imagebanana.com/view/shoayek5/onlinebook.jpg
> 
> Or more questions?

That’s not possible with the normal imposition mechanism because you can’t set 
a different paper size for the first/last page. What you can do is to use a 
second document where include each page as described by Aditya.

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Re: [NTG-context] doublesided PDF - first and last page singlesided

[Jan Heinen]

Hello,

someone, who understood what I want to achieve?

http://www.imagebanana.com/view/shoayek5/onlinebook.jpg

Or more questions?

Regards
Janis


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Re: [NTG-context] doublesided PDF - first and last page 
singlesided


Jan Heinen
Mon, 16 Apr 2012 04:29:20 -0700

Hello,

some were guessing, what I want to achieve.

I made a screenshot for you:

http://www.imagebanana.com/view/shoayek5/onlinebook.jpg


It ist the online-version of a printed book. For printing it 
was ok to have one bookpage on one sheet of paper. For the 
online-version I want to have two bookpages on one sheet of 
paper


but the coverpage should be alone on one sheet of paper.

The online-version is a PDF ... no html.

"sheet of paper" is of course only virtualy meant ... it is 
online


The difficulty is that there a bunch of (hyperlinked) 
cross-references in the book ... so people can use the pdf 
interactively.


Without this I could put the pages manualy together.

Hope that now you know what I want to do.
And I am hoping very much for a solution ...

Regards
Jannis

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Re: [NTG-context] Rendering differences between PDF viewers

[Peter Rolf]

Am 17.04.2012 12:12, schrieb Hans Hagen:
> On 17-4-2012 11:53, Peter Rolf wrote:
>> Am 17.04.2012 08:57, schrieb Kip Warner:
>>> On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 08:54 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
 (AR might have flaws but so do all other viewers I've seen.)
>>>
>>> I don't doubt it, but something that salient is pretty bad though. The
>>> whole document looks just awful.
>>>
 Is there a small example file?
>>>
>>> Sure.
>>>
>>>
>> I might be wrong, but is this color shift not just a 'page group'
>> problem, caused by the transparent PNG?
> 
> I think so.
> 
> Hans
> 

Hi Kip,

give it a try and add this to you document...


\startluacode

backends= backendsor { }
backends.codeinjections = backends.codeinjections or { }

function backends.codeinjections.rgbtransparencygroup()
local d = lpdf.dictionary {
S  = lpdf.constant("Transparency"),
CS = lpdf.constant("DeviceRGB"),
I  = true }
lpdf.registerpagefinalizer(function()
lpdf.addtopageattributes("Group",d) end)
end

backends.codeinjections.rgbtransparencygroup()

\stopluacode


This does not work, if you also use CMYK based graphics/pictures in your
document (as this is done document wide).


Peter
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Re: [NTG-context] Rendering differences between PDF viewers

[Hans Hagen]

On 17-4-2012 11:53, Peter Rolf wrote:

Am 17.04.2012 08:57, schrieb Kip Warner:

On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 08:54 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:

(AR might have flaws but so do all other viewers I've seen.)


I don't doubt it, but something that salient is pretty bad though. The
whole document looks just awful.


Is there a small example file?


Sure.



I might be wrong, but is this color shift not just a 'page group'
problem, caused by the transparent PNG?


I think so.

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] Rendering differences between PDF viewers

[Peter Rolf]

Am 17.04.2012 08:57, schrieb Kip Warner:
> On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 08:54 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> (AR might have flaws but so do all other viewers I've seen.)
> 
> I don't doubt it, but something that salient is pretty bad though. The
> whole document looks just awful.
> 
>> Is there a small example file?
> 
> Sure. 
> 
> 
I might be wrong, but is this color shift not just a 'page group'
problem, caused by the transparent PNG?

Peter
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Re: [NTG-context] Rendering differences between PDF viewers

[luigi scarso]

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Hans Hagen  wrote:
> I use acrobat (prof) as reference viewer from the editor and okular (kde
> windows version) on a second screen as handy constantly open one; I tried a
> few more but stuck to these two.
For MFLua I need to show 2 pages with thousand of MP points and  look
on how the curves of the glyph join together.
With ctrl-r and magnification of 6400% AdobeReader is the only one
that is able to show the pdf without need to take an italian coffe at
every refresh.
When I need to typeset black&white  or not-critical-colors document,
emacs+xpdf+ two_rows_of_workspace_in_gnome is ok --- no need another
monitor: the bottom row has the editor, the top rows has the viewer.
Maybe a wide 16:9 screen and the latest Emacs (which can render a pdf
into a buffer) are also ok: just split an emacs windows vertically in
two, left side is the editor, right side the viewer.  I use the shell
buffer, so another split is needed.
Moving between buffers is not agile but the advantage is to minimize
the use of the mouse.
Anyway  with a laptop it's not a problem to have another monitor, and
I use this configuration if I'm under Windows,especially with the
sumatra pdf or the ReaderX.

For all the rest (critical colors, interactive features, flash into
pdf..) the latest AcrobatProfessional is a must.



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Re: [NTG-context] Rendering differences between PDF viewers

[Hans Hagen]

On 17-4-2012 09:31, luigi scarso wrote:

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Alan BRASLAU  wrote:

On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 08:54:03 +0200
Hans Hagen  wrote:


(AR might have flaws but so do all other viewers I've seen.)


With one MAJOR difference: for Acrobat reader, one is dependent on the whims 
and desires of Adobe (and its paying market); the other pdf viewers are open 
source.

AdobeReader  *is* the reference pdf-viewer.
Every pdf for general use should be checked at least with the latest
AdobeReader under windows, which is currently one of the best pdf
viewer.
For the (pdf/lua)TeX community, all the viewer based on xpdf/poppler
are also important, because (pdf/lua)TeX
have a consistent part of code from them, so a bug in xpdf/poppler can
be also a bug in (pdf/lua)Tex.
Other viewers are useful (mupdf which is now 1.0rc1 ,  sumatra pdf for
windows, just to list a fews)
but not as the previous ones.


I use acrobat (prof) as reference viewer from the editor and okular (kde 
windows version) on a second screen as handy constantly open one; I 
tried a few more but stuck to these two.


Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Rendering differences between PDF viewers

[luigi scarso]

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Alan BRASLAU  wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 08:54:03 +0200
> Hans Hagen  wrote:
>
>> (AR might have flaws but so do all other viewers I've seen.)
>
> With one MAJOR difference: for Acrobat reader, one is dependent on the whims 
> and desires of Adobe (and its paying market); the other pdf viewers are open 
> source.
AdobeReader  *is* the reference pdf-viewer.
Every pdf for general use should be checked at least with the latest
AdobeReader under windows, which is currently one of the best pdf
viewer.
For the (pdf/lua)TeX community, all the viewer based on xpdf/poppler
are also important, because (pdf/lua)TeX
have a consistent part of code from them, so a bug in xpdf/poppler can
be also a bug in (pdf/lua)Tex.
Other viewers are useful (mupdf which is now 1.0rc1 ,  sumatra pdf for
windows, just to list a fews)
but not as the previous ones.




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Re: [NTG-context] Rendering differences between PDF viewers

[Alan BRASLAU]

On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 08:54:03 +0200
Hans Hagen  wrote:

> (AR might have flaws but so do all other viewers I've seen.)

With one MAJOR difference: for Acrobat reader, one is dependent on the whims 
and desires of Adobe (and its paying market); the other pdf viewers are open 
source.

Alan
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