Re: [NTG-context] Broken Nightly (2012.07.10)

2012-07-13 Thread Alan BRASLAU
The subject of this ongoing string is not very informative
and indeed slightly unpleasant considering the efforts that
many contributors make towards the development of ConTeXt.

The present message is not intended to start any sort of debate;
it only represents a reaction to a latent feeling that I have
for some time now...

Alan
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[NTG-context] Bibliographycal style in spanish

2012-07-13 Thread MANUEL GONZALEZ SUAREZ


Hello
again.
This message is to thank Wolfgang for his response on interactive documents that has worked very well. I would now like to put another small question. I prepared
a document with a bibliography at
the end. To do this I use the modules \usemodule[bib] and \usemodule [bibltx], but since the
bibliography is in Spanish, when
two or more authors appear, I would replace and
by y. With the format ap-fr
appears et, but there
is not a *apa-is. HowI can do?
Thanks again.

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Re: [NTG-context] Broken Nightly (2012.07.10)

2012-07-13 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 13.07.2012 um 00:09 schrieb Kip Warner:

 Hey Hans, Wolfgang, et al,
 
 The nightly for 2012.07.10 appears to be broken. When attempting to
 compile my book, I get the following.

Use

\define[2]\PlaceSection
  {…}

or

\unexpanded\def\PlaceSection#1#2%
  {…}

in your environment file.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Broken Nightly (2012.07.10)

2012-07-13 Thread Hans Hagen

On 13-7-2012 00:09, Kip Warner wrote:


This is just a piece of advice from one programmer to another, but it
might be useful if you use some kind of unit testing framework with
ConTeXt since most of the nightlies it seems are usually broken for
somebody. You just need some test cases, e.g. people's documents that
draw on as many features as possible.


feel free to do the testing .. (there is an achive with test files but i 
have no time to run/check it each time)


concerning 'broken' ... that's what you have with betas ... most recent 
changes concern reshuffling code, better namespace protection, cleanup 
and speedup, etc, all part of the mkii - mkiv move


the problem reported by you (as wolfgang already pointed out) relates to 
the fact that (from now on) such commands have to be defined 
unexpandable (due to a different way of checking them) .. also, some of 
these 'command' options will be (or are already) replaced by setups


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Re: [NTG-context] Bibliographycal style in spanish

2012-07-13 Thread Andreas Mang
Hi Manuel,

Not quite sure if there's a simpler way, but what I've done in order to create 
my own style is to copy and paste one of the style files in

PATH TO CONTEXT FOLDER/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/bib/

to my local folder (bibl-SOMENAME.tex) and edit it accordingly. I found this 
quite intuitive and it gave me full control on the look of my bibliography. 
What you'd have to do is change in \setupcite the entry in the field andtext 
to y. You'd also have to change  

\c!lastnamesep={ y },
\c!finalnamesep={ y },

in \setuppublicationlist. At least that's how it worked for me. You'd also have 
to tell setuppublications in your preamble to look for the bibl-SOMENAME.tex 
file: alternative=SOMENAME.

There might be an easier way, but - as I said - you get full control of the 
look of your bib.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Andreas 
  

 
Am Jul 13, 2012 um 9:22 AM schrieb MANUEL GONZALEZ SUAREZ:

 Hello again.
 This message is to thank Wolfgang for his response on interactive documents 
 that has worked very well. I would now like to put another small question. I 
 prepared a document with a bibliography at the end. To do this I use the 
 modules \usemodule[bib] and \usemodule [bibltx], but since the bibliography 
 is in Spanish, when two or more authors appear, I would replace and by y. 
 With the format ap-fr appears et, but there is not a *apa-is. HowI can do?
 Thanks again.
 
 
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Re: [NTG-context] Broken Nightly (2012.07.10)

2012-07-13 Thread luigi scarso
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

 On 13-7-2012 00:09, Kip Warner wrote:

  This is just a piece of advice from one programmer to another, but it
 might be useful if you use some kind of unit testing framework with
 ConTeXt since most of the nightlies it seems are usually broken for
 somebody. You just need some test cases, e.g. people's documents that
 draw on as many features as possible.


 feel free to do the testing .. (there is an achive with test files but i
 have no time to run/check it each time)

 http://standalone.contextgarden.net/current/context/test/

and with rsync
rsync -avz rsync://contextgarden.net/standalone/current/context/test .


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[NTG-context] \seeindex and processors

2012-07-13 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Hi Hans,

processors aren’t applied to the second argument of \seeindex, only the first 
is formatted.

\defineprocessor[smallcaps][style=\sc]

\starttext

Apples\index{smallcaps-Apple}

Malus domestica\seeindex{smallcaps-Malus domestica}{smallcaps-Apple}

\placeindex[n=1]
 
\stoptext

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[NTG-context] \setuphead and testpage

2012-07-13 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Hi Hans,

can you add a testpage option to \setuphead?

%\setuphead[section][testpage=4]
\setuphead[section][before={\testpage[4]\blank[2*big]}]

\starttext

\section{First}

\dorecurse{36}{Line \recurselevel\par}

\section{Second}

\dorecurse{36}{Line \recurselevel\par}

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] seeindex: accents and such

2012-07-13 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 11.07.2012 um 22:37 schrieb Andreas Mang:

 Hi Wolfgang,
 
 Thanks. That's truly an option. I have already looked into this and it works. 
 As a matter of fact, this is what I decided to do if there is no quick fix. 
 However, I thought I'd point it out, since it works for \index and just not 
 for \seeindex. Secondly, the \sc (command) issue persists. 

MkIV provides a new mechanism to format index entries called processors, it 
doesn't work yet with \seeindex (see my other mail on the list) but I guess 
Hans will fix this in one of the next betas.

\defineprocessor[sc][style=\sc]

\starttext

Test\index{Test}\index{sc-Testing}

\completeindex

\stoptext

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Broken Nightly (2012.07.10)

2012-07-13 Thread Kip Warner
On Fri, 2012-07-13 at 09:16 +0200, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
 The subject of this ongoing string is not very informative
 and indeed slightly unpleasant considering the efforts that
 many contributors make towards the development of ConTeXt.
 
 The present message is not intended to start any sort of debate;
 it only represents a reaction to a latent feeling that I have
 for some time now...
 
 Alan

Hey Alan. I'm not sure what you mean. If you thought my post came off
poorly, I think you misunderstood. I wasn't criticizing anyone. I was
just pointing out that a recent nightly was broken. That happens all the
time - including with my own projects. It isn't personal.

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Re: [NTG-context] Broken Nightly (2012.07.10)

2012-07-13 Thread Kip Warner
On Fri, 2012-07-13 at 09:49 +0200, luigi scarso wrote:
 and with rsync
 rsync -avz rsync://contextgarden.net/standalone/current/context/test .

Thanks Luigi. I actually do test every new nightly and have been for
several months now.

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Re: [NTG-context] \seeindex and processors

2012-07-13 Thread Hans Hagen

On 13-7-2012 09:57, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

Hi Hans,

processors aren’t applied to the second argument of \seeindex, only the first 
is formatted.

\defineprocessor[smallcaps][style=\sc]

\starttext

Apples\index{smallcaps-Apple}

Malus domestica\seeindex{smallcaps-Malus domestica}{smallcaps-Apple}

\placeindex[n=1]

\stoptext


ok, so the next beta will have

\setupinteraction[state=start]

\defineprocessor[smallcaps][style=\sc]
\defineprocessor[bold] [style=\bf]

\starttext

Apples\index{smallcaps-Apple}
Pears\index{Pears}

Malus domestica\seeindex{smallcaps-Malus domestica}{bold-Apple}

Bonus domestica\seeindex{Bonus domestica}{Pears}

\placeindex[n=1]

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] setupcaptions

2012-07-13 Thread Hans Hagen

On 11-7-2012 22:29, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:


Having a list as argument for the style key is interesting and you have my vote 
for this but it would
be more complex and slower than the current mechanism.


indeed too much of a slowdown

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Re: [NTG-context] \seeindex and processors

2012-07-13 Thread Andreas Mang
Dear Hans  Wolfgang,

Thanks for looking into this. I know that this has quite low priority. As it 
seems to me processors do not really seem to provide the behaviour I had in 
mind. Clearly, I should have thought of a better example in the first place:

%
\defineprocessor[smallcaps][style=\sc]

\starttext

% this works nicely
{\sc Test}\index{smallcaps-Test}

% this is what I want it to look like
% (which does not work for \seeindex[.])
\index{{\sc Cauchy}||Problem}

% this is what I tried after you have suggested
% to use processors, but it does not work (*) 
{\sc Cauchy}||Problem\index{{smallcaps-Cauchy}||Problem}

\placeindex[n=1]

\stoptext
%

(*) As you can see I am using smallcaps as an indicator for a personal name. 
From looking at the code (I have to admit that I do not know anything about 
what's beyond the context front end) I think there's no quick solution to get 
this to work with preprocessors. Am I doing something wrong?

If you do not have the time to look into this right now never mind.

Sorry for the hassle.

Cheers,
Andreas

Am Jul 13, 2012 um 7:23 PM schrieb Hans Hagen:

 On 13-7-2012 09:57, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 Hi Hans,
 
 processors aren’t applied to the second argument of \seeindex, only the 
 first is formatted.
 
 \defineprocessor[smallcaps][style=\sc]
 
 \starttext
 
 Apples\index{smallcaps-Apple}
 
 Malus domestica\seeindex{smallcaps-Malus domestica}{smallcaps-Apple}
 
 \placeindex[n=1]
  
 \stoptext
 
 ok, so the next beta will have
 
 \setupinteraction[state=start]
 
 \defineprocessor[smallcaps][style=\sc]
 \defineprocessor[bold] [style=\bf]
 
 \starttext
 
 Apples\index{smallcaps-Apple}
 Pears\index{Pears}
 
 Malus domestica\seeindex{smallcaps-Malus domestica}{bold-Apple}
 
 Bonus domestica\seeindex{Bonus domestica}{Pears}
 
 \placeindex[n=1]
 
 \stoptext
 
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Re: [NTG-context] PDF Preview Image

2012-07-13 Thread Hans Hagen

On 12-7-2012 04:22, Kip Warner wrote:

Hey list,

Many different desktop environments display the first page of a PDF as
the file's thumbnail image. Is there any way to customize what is used
as the preview image for a PDF with ConTeXt? Or is it typesetting
environment agnostic and the thumbnailers always look for the first
page?


in theory yes but in practice no

\starttext

% quick and dirty test:

\setobject{test}{1}\hbox{\externalfigure[mill.png]} % gets object 15

\startluacode
lpdf.addtopageattributes(Thumb,lpdf.reference(15))
\stopluacode

\input tufte

\getobject{test}{1}

\stoptext

no viewer seems to do something with it

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Re: [NTG-context] \setuphead and testpage

2012-07-13 Thread Hans Hagen

On 13-7-2012 10:02, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

Hi Hans,

can you add a testpage option to \setuphead?

%\setuphead[section][testpage=4]
\setuphead[section][before={\testpage[4]\blank[2*big]}]

\starttext

\section{First}

\dorecurse{36}{Line \recurselevel\par}

\section{Second}

\dorecurse{36}{Line \recurselevel\par}

\stoptext


Are we sure about that key? (a conditional page entry is also an option, 
like page=lines:4 or so


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