Re: [NTG-context] Returning...need advice on manuals for MKIV

[Philipp Gesang]

·

> 3. And then there is the source, which has some helpful
> comments in it.  The explanation of the system macros,
> http://tex.aanhet.net/context/syst-gen-doc.pdf, has been helpful
> in many ways, including guessing at what the source is about.

Fwiw Taco’s “System Macros” is part of the wiki as well:
. As it was written
with MkII in mind, you might want to check the definitions in
syst-aux.mkiv in your /context/base/ directory if they are
still around and, if applicable, what their replacement is (\@EA
and family come to my mind that have been purged from MkIV).

Regards
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Re: [NTG-context] Broken for a while now...

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 17.07.2012 um 05:04 schrieb DB:

> I've noticed two things that seem to be broken in the betas, and they've been 
> broken for a while now.
> 
> \resetpagenumber
> \setuppagenumber[number=1]

Put \resetpagenumber after \setuppagenumber or use \setcounter[userpage][1]

> sets the page number to zero rather than 1. Also, the width= setting in 
> \setuplist doesn't work anymore, either.


Do you have a example because this works:

\setuplist[section][width=4cm]

\starttext

\completecontent

\dorecurse{4}
  {\chapter{Chapter #1}
   \dorecurse{6}{\section{Section #1.##1}}}

\stoptext

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[NTG-context] Broken for a while now...

[DB]

I've noticed two things that seem to be broken in the betas, and they've 
been broken for a while now.


\resetpagenumber
\setuppagenumber[number=1]

sets the page number to zero rather than 1. Also, the width= setting in 
\setuplist doesn't work anymore, either.


I apologise if I sound like I'm whining. I just wanted to bring it to 
your attention.


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Re: [NTG-context] multi column index register broken

[Hans Hagen]

On 16-7-2012 23:44, Andreas Mang wrote:

Dear all,

Firstly, thanks for the fixes in the index register. Works nicely...

However, I am facing an new problem with this very register: It seems that the 
current beta only works for index registers put in a single column (see below) 
or did the interface change?


must be

\def\page_insert_insertion_height_indeed#1%
  {\ifvoid#1\zeropoint\else1\skip#1+\ht#1\fi}


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[NTG-context] multi column index register broken

[Andreas Mang]

Dear all,

Firstly, thanks for the fixes in the index register. Works nicely...

However, I am facing an new problem with this very register: It seems that the 
current beta only works for index registers put in a single column (see below) 
or did the interface change?

Cheers,
Andreas

VERSION: ConTeXt  ver: 2012.07.16 20:58 MKIV  fmt: 2012.7.16

MINIMAL EXAMPLE:

%
\starttext
ABC\index{ABC}
DEF\index{DEF}
GHI\index{GHI}
JKL\index{JKL}
MNO\index{MNO}

% \placeindex[n=1] % works
% \completeindex[n=1] % works

\completeindex % does not work
%\placeindex[n=2] % does not work
%\completeindex[n=2] % does not work
\stoptext
%

ERROR MESSAGE:

Illegal unit of measure (pt inserted) …

 
   \relax 
\settotalinsertionheight ...on_height \s!topfloat 
  +\page_insert_insertion_he...
\page_mul_set_n_of_lines ...ttotalinsertionheight 
  \d_page_mul_temp \dimexpr ...
\page_otr_command_set_vsize ...mul_set_n_of_lines 
  \d_page_mul_temp \nofcolum...
\page_mul_start ... >\plusone \page_mul_start_yes 
  \else \page_mul_start_nop ...
\strc_registers_place ...rparameter \c!tolerance ]
  \strc_registers_place_inde...
…

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Re: [NTG-context] new beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 16-7-2012 22:30, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:


be changed to

\unexpanded\def\strc_itemgroups_start_columns
   {\startmixedcolumns[itemgroupcolumns]}

\unexpanded\def\strc_itemgroups_stop_columns
   {\stopmixedcolumns}

because “start” and “stop” are interface/language dependant strings.


Ok. I now  made it into a fast start/stop (no need for argument testing 
in itemize).



Can you include a check (\ifinner … \fi) to change the columns method from 
“otr” to “box”
when the items are in a box, e.g. in a framedtext environment or a layer.


Sure, but even better is to do that at the parent level.

   \c!method=\ifinner\s!box\else\s!otr\fi

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] new beta

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 16.07.2012 um 22:02 schrieb Hans Hagen:

> Hi,
> 
> I uploaded a new beta. The usual fixes. New is a first version of a new multi 
> column handler. Pretty experimental but eventually it will replace the 
> current multi column routine, which is fact is then an instance, think of
> 
> \definemixedcolumns
>  [columns]
> 
> \unexpanded\def\setupcolumns
>  {\setupmixedcolumns[columns]}
> 
> The simple columns routine is already replaced (by an instance) as is the 
> multi column handler of itemize.

Shouldn’t this

\unexpanded\def\strc_itemgroups_start_columns
  {\startitemgroupcolumns}

\unexpanded\def\strc_itemgroups_stop_columns
  {\stopitemgroupcolumns}

be changed to

\unexpanded\def\strc_itemgroups_start_columns
  {\startmixedcolumns[itemgroupcolumns]}

\unexpanded\def\strc_itemgroups_stop_columns
  {\stopmixedcolumns}

because “start” and “stop” are interface/language dependant strings.


Can you include a check (\ifinner … \fi) to change the columns method from 
“otr” to “box”
when the items are in a box, e.g. in a framedtext environment or a layer.

%\setupmixedcolumns[itemgroupcolumns][method=box]

\starttext

\startframedtext[width=max]
  \startitemize[columns,two]
\startitem One \stopitem
\startitem Two \stopitem
\startitem Three \stopitem
\startitem Four \stopitem
  \stopitemize
\stopframedtext

\stoptext

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Returning...need advice on manuals for MKIV

[Aditya Mahajan]

The standalone.zip had some problems.


ConTeXt Standalone (or is it now ConTeXt Suite?) now refers to what was 
ConTeXt minimals.


http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Standalone

There is no standalone.zip; so perhaps you tried the old standalone 
distributed by Hans.


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Re: [NTG-context] new beta

[Hans Hagen]

On 16-7-2012 22:02, Hans Hagen wrote:

Hi,

I uploaded a new beta. The usual fixes. New is a first version of a new
multi column handler. Pretty experimental but eventually it will replace
the current multi column routine, which is fact is then an instance,
think of

\definemixedcolumns
   [columns]

\unexpanded\def\setupcolumns
   {\setupmixedcolumns[columns]}

The simple columns routine is already replaced (by an instance) as is
the multi column handler of itemize.


btw, the new simplecolumns in called boxedcolumns

Hans


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[NTG-context] new beta

[Hans Hagen]

Hi,

I uploaded a new beta. The usual fixes. New is a first version of a new 
multi column handler. Pretty experimental but eventually it will replace 
the current multi column routine, which is fact is then an instance, 
think of


\definemixedcolumns
  [columns]

\unexpanded\def\setupcolumns
  {\setupmixedcolumns[columns]}

The simple columns routine is already replaced (by an instance) as is 
the multi column handler of itemize.


Hans

ps. Does someone know of a latin font that has different glyphs sets?

\definefontfeature
  [solution-demo]
  [goodies=demo, % needs version from latest beta
   featureset=default]

\definefont
  [SomeTestFont]
  [texgyrepagellaregular*solution-demo at 10pt]

\definefontsolution
  [solution]
  [goodies=demo,
   solution=experimental,
   method={normal,preroll},
 % method={normal,preroll,split},
   criterium=1]

\starttext

\enabletrackers
  [builders.paragraphs.solutions.splitters.colors]

\startsimplecolumns
  \showfontkerns
  \setuptolerance[verytolerant]
  \start  \SomeTestFont
\input zapf \par
  \stop
  \column
  \start  \SomeTestFont \startfontsolution[solution]
\input zapf \par
  \stopfontsolution \stop
\stopsimplecolumns

\stoptext


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Re: [NTG-context] bad kerning with Garamond

[Hans Hagen]

On 16-7-2012 20:59, Peter Münster wrote:

On Mon, Jul 16 2012, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:


Try this example which doesn’t use simplefonts:

\starttext
\startfont[file:gara.ttf*default]\input knuth\par\stopfont
\startfont[file:garait.ttf*default]\input knuth\par\stopfont
\startfont[file:garabd.ttf*default]\input knuth\par\stopfont
\stoptext


Not really better:

http://pmrb.free.fr/tmp/startfont-gara.pdf

There are now 3 pdf-files:

http://pmrb.free.fr/tmp/startfont-gara.pdf  -> \startfont ... \stopfont
http://pmrb.free.fr/tmp/simplefont-gara.pdf -> \setmainfont[gara]
http://pmrb.free.fr/tmp/simplefont-garamond.pdf -> \setmainfont[garamond]

The 3 ttf files come from an MS-Office installation.


looks ok here (fonts from the windows/fonts path)




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Re: [NTG-context] bad kerning with Garamond (solved)

[Peter Münster]

On Mon, Jul 16 2012, Peter Münster wrote:

> The 3 ttf files come from an MS-Office installation.

I've replaced them with files from the internet
(http://www.findthatzip.com/), now it works!

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Re: [NTG-context] ancient greek module and footnote fontsize problem

[Alan Bowen]

Thanks, Thomas. That’s got it nicely.

Best, Alan

On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz <
thomas.schm...@uni-bonn.de> wrote:

> On 07/16/2012 03:05 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
>
>> The following code fails to produce greek in the footnotes.
>>
>> \usemodule[ancientgreek]
>> [font=GreekOldStandard,scale=**1.00,altfont=GreekLibertine,**scale=0.95]
>>
>> \def\grk{\localgreek}
>>
>> \setupnote[footnote][way=**bypage,conversion=numbers]
>>
>> \setupnote[footnote][location=**page,
>> rule=on,
>> bodyfont=9.5pt,
>> style=normal
>> ]
>>
>> \starttext
>> \grk{ἄλφα} lorem ipsum\footnote{lorem ipsm dolor \grk{βῆτα}}
>> \stoptext
>>
>> The problem seems to be “bodyfont=9.5pt”. If this line is commented out,
>> the greek appears as it should.
>>
>> Is this a bug or is there another way to set the fontsize in footnotes
>> to 9.5 pts?
>>
>> Alan
>>
>
> Add this to your file:
>
> \starttypescript [serif] [default] [size]
> \definebodyfont [9.5pt] [rm] [default]
> \stoptypescript
>
> \definebodyfontenvironment[9.**5pt]
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Re: [NTG-context] bad kerning with Garamond

[Peter Münster]

On Mon, Jul 16 2012, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> Try this example which doesn’t use simplefonts:
>
> \starttext
> \startfont[file:gara.ttf*default]\input knuth\par\stopfont
> \startfont[file:garait.ttf*default]\input knuth\par\stopfont
> \startfont[file:garabd.ttf*default]\input knuth\par\stopfont
> \stoptext

Not really better:

http://pmrb.free.fr/tmp/startfont-gara.pdf

There are now 3 pdf-files:

http://pmrb.free.fr/tmp/startfont-gara.pdf  -> \startfont ... \stopfont
http://pmrb.free.fr/tmp/simplefont-gara.pdf -> \setmainfont[gara]
http://pmrb.free.fr/tmp/simplefont-garamond.pdf -> \setmainfont[garamond]

The 3 ttf files come from an MS-Office installation.

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Re: [NTG-context] ancient greek module and footnote fontsize problem

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On 07/16/2012 03:05 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:

The following code fails to produce greek in the footnote.

\usemodule[ancientgreek]
[font=GreekOldStandard,scale=1.00,altfont=GreekLibertine,scale=0.95]

\def\grk{\localgreek}

\setupnote[footnote][way=bypage,conversion=numbers]

\setupnote[footnote][location=page,
rule=on,
bodyfont=9.5pt,
style=normal
]

\starttext
\grk{ἄλφα} lorem ipsum\footnote{lorem ipsm dolor \grk{βῆτα}}
\stoptext

The problem seems to be “bodyfont=9.5pt”. If this line is commented out,
the greek appears as it should.

Is this a bug or is there another way to set the fontsize in footnotes
to 9.5 pts?

Alan


Add this to your file:

\starttypescript [serif] [default] [size]
\definebodyfont [9.5pt] [rm] [default]
\stoptypescript

\definebodyfontenvironment[9.5pt]

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Re: [NTG-context] bad kerning with Garamond

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 16.07.2012 um 20:03 schrieb Peter Münster:

> On Mon, Jul 16 2012, Luis Montgomery wrote:
> 
>> Try with
>> 
>> \setmainfont[gara]
> 
> The result is worse: http://pmrb.free.fr/tmp/gara.pdf


Try this example which doesn’t use simplefonts:

\starttext
\startfont[file:gara.ttf*default]\input knuth\par\stopfont
\startfont[file:garait.ttf*default]\input knuth\par\stopfont
\startfont[file:garabd.ttf*default]\input knuth\par\stopfont
\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] bad kerning with Garamond

[Peter Münster]

On Mon, Jul 16 2012, Hans Hagen wrote:

> maybe it's a script or language dependent feature

Could you explain this please (what script, what language)?

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Re: [NTG-context] bad kerning with Garamond

[Hans Hagen]

On 16-7-2012 09:26, Peter Münster wrote:

Hi,

I've copied the files GARA.TTF, GARABD.TTF and GARAIT.TTF (Monotype
Garamond) to the fonts directory and then regenerated the database.

This is my test-file:

--8<---cut here---start->8---
\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[garamond]
\starttext
\input tufte
\it
\input tufte
\bf
\input tufte
\stoptext
--8<---cut here---end--->8---

The output is here: http://pmrb.free.fr/tmp/test.pdf and it's very ugly.

How could I get better results please?



maybe it's a script or language dependent feature

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Re: [NTG-context] bad kerning with Garamond

[Peter Münster]

On Mon, Jul 16 2012, Luis Montgomery wrote:

> Try with
>
> \setmainfont[gara]

The result is worse: http://pmrb.free.fr/tmp/gara.pdf

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Re: [NTG-context] Returning...need advice on manuals for MKIV

[john Culleton]

On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:23:00 +0200
Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:

> Am 2012-07-15 um 22:04 schrieb john Culleton:
> 
> > I use TexLive 2011 on a Slackware Linux platform.
> 
> If you___re serious about MkIV, install TeX Live 2012 or use
> Standalone. (If you don___t need LaTeX, the latter is enough.)
> 
> 
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>
Thanks! I found it easier to install TeXLive  2012 (more familiar.)
The standalone.zip had some problems. I note from another post that
there is an incomplete but more current manual. So I will print
that out. The texlive 2012 is dated July 7 so I hope that the
Context is up to date or close to it. My main concern is as
always fonts.

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Re: [NTG-context] Broken Nightly (2012.07.10)

[Kip Warner]

On Mon, 2012-07-16 at 18:00 +0200, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Or
> 
>   \define[]\somecommand
> 
> which creates also a protected command. 

Right. Thanks.

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[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 14.07.2012 um 23:50 schrieb Eythan Weg:

> Thank you.  But isn't  \donknuthmode suppose to keep the
> compatibility with standard  tex?  

Only MkII keeps the traditional behavior for _, ^ and &, in MkIV
there is no way to go back but as I have show’n you there is \aligntab
which can be used instead of & and after \unprotect you can also
use & as column separator.

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Re: [NTG-context] Broken Nightly (2012.07.10)

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 16.07.2012 um 15:37 schrieb Hans Hagen:

> On 16-7-2012 07:32, Kip Warner wrote:
> 
>> Sorry, I'm a little lost. Are you referring to within the ConTeXt source
>> or do you mean that users need to modify their typesetting commands they
>> are using for their documents?
> 
> only the occasional ones that hook into 'command=' ... they'd best be 
> \unexpanded\def's

Or

  \define[]\somecommand

which creates also a protected command.

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Re: [NTG-context] Informations about nodes

[Rogers, Michael K]

On Jul 16, 2012, at 4:13 AM, Jaroslav Hajtmar wrote:

> Hallo ConTeXist.
>
> is there anything about nodes for beginners? I think any manual or practical 
> examples. I would like trying make anything experiments with this.
> I found anything only on wiki 
> (http://wiki.luatex.org/index.php/TeX_without_TeX)
>
> Thanks Jaroslav Hajtmar

The Luatex reference manual has a chapter on nodes.  
http://www.luatex.org/svn/trunk/manual/luatexref-t.pdf




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Re: [NTG-context] Broken Nightly (2012.07.10)

[Hans Hagen]

On 16-7-2012 07:32, Kip Warner wrote:


Sorry, I'm a little lost. Are you referring to within the ConTeXt source
or do you mean that users need to modify their typesetting commands they
are using for their documents?


only the occasional ones that hook into 'command=' ... they'd best be 
\unexpanded\def's


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[NTG-context] ancient greek module and footnote fontsize problem

[Alan Bowen]

The following code fails to produce greek in the footnote.

\usemodule[ancientgreek]
[font=GreekOldStandard,scale=1.00,altfont=GreekLibertine,scale=0.95]

\def\grk{\localgreek}

\setupnote[footnote][way=bypage,conversion=numbers]

\setupnote[footnote][location=page,
rule=on,
bodyfont=9.5pt,
style=normal
]

\starttext
\grk{ἄλφα} lorem ipsum\footnote{lorem ipsm dolor \grk{βῆτα}}
\stoptext

The problem seems to be “bodyfont=9.5pt”. If this line is commented out,
the greek appears as it should.

Is this a bug or is there another way to set the fontsize in footnotes to
9.5 pts?

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Re: [NTG-context] change caption position temporarily

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 16.07.2012 um 11:27 schrieb Peter Münster:

> On Mon, Jul 16 2012, d_jan wrote:
> 
>> Is it possible to set the caption position for some images to another 
>> position
>> than the one defined in \setupcations ?
>> The standard in my document is location=bottom but for some images I'd prefer
>> =right.
> 
> \setupcaptions[location=bottom]
> \def\PlaceRightFigure#1#2{{\setupcaptions[location=right]%
>\placefigure{#1}{#2}}}
> \starttext
> \placefigure{caption 1}{figure 1}
> \PlaceRightFigure{caption 2}{figure 2}
> \placefigure{caption 3}{figure 3}
> \stoptext


It’s easier to create a real float command which has it’s own caption settings.

\definefloat[rightfigure][rightfigure][figure]

\setupcaption[rightfigure][location=right]

\starttext
\placefigure{caption 1}{\framed{figure 1}}
\placerightfigure{caption 2}{\framed{figure 2}}
\placefigure{caption 3}{\framed{figure 3}}
\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] Informations about nodes

[luigi scarso]

On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Jaroslav Hajtmar  wrote:

> Hallo ConTeXist.
>
> is there anything about nodes for beginners? I think any manual or
> practical examples. I would like trying make anything experiments with this.
> I found anything only on wiki (http://wiki.luatex.org/index.**
> php/TeX_without_TeX )
>
> Thanks Jaroslav Hajtmar
>
>
There are some articles from Paul Isambert
(eg. http://www.tug.org/TUGboat/tb31-3/tb99isambert.pdf)
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Re: [NTG-context] Broken Nightly (2012.07.10)

[Martin Bruchanov]

On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:45:46PM -0700, Kip Warner wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-07-13 at 09:22 +0200, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> > Use
> > 
> > \define[2]\PlaceSection
> >   {}
> > 
> > or
> > 
> > \unexpanded\def\PlaceSection#1#2%
> >   {}
> > 
> > in your environment file.
> > 
> > Wolfgang
> 
> Thanks Wolfgang. As usual, your magic worked. =)

Thanks, I have not used \define or \unexpanded\def in my definitions
of macros too, so I  found this problem in my project too... 

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[NTG-context] Informations about nodes

[Jaroslav Hajtmar]

Hallo ConTeXist.

is there anything about nodes for beginners? I think any manual or 
practical examples. I would like trying make anything experiments with this.
I found anything only on wiki 
(http://wiki.luatex.org/index.php/TeX_without_TeX)


Thanks Jaroslav Hajtmar



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[NTG-context] math: diagonal dots

[Andreas Mang]

Dear all,

It seems that the \ddots in "modern" is mapped to the wrong Symbol:

%
\setupbodyfont[modern,12pt]

\starttext
$\ddots$
\stoptext
%

System: ConTeXt  ver: 2012.07.10 09:52 MKIV

result: three dots from bottom left to top right (corresponds to \iddots (which 
btw. does not exist in context, as it seems))

expected result: three dots from top left to bottom right

Seems just to be the case for "modern". 

Cheers,
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Re: [NTG-context] change caption position temporarily

[Peter Münster]

On Mon, Jul 16 2012, d_jan wrote:

> Is it possible to set the caption position for some images to another position
> than the one defined in \setupcations ?
> The standard in my document is location=bottom but for some images I'd prefer
> =right.

\setupcaptions[location=bottom]
\def\PlaceRightFigure#1#2{{\setupcaptions[location=right]%
\placefigure{#1}{#2}}}
\starttext
\placefigure{caption 1}{figure 1}
\PlaceRightFigure{caption 2}{figure 2}
\placefigure{caption 3}{figure 3}
\stoptext

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[NTG-context] change caption position temporarily

[d_jan]

Hello,

Is it possible to set the caption position for some images to another 
position than the one defined in \setupcations ?
The standard in my document is location=bottom but for some images I'd 
prefer =right.


Regards,
 Jan

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[NTG-context] bad kerning with Garamond

[Peter Münster]

Hi,

I've copied the files GARA.TTF, GARABD.TTF and GARAIT.TTF (Monotype
Garamond) to the fonts directory and then regenerated the database.

This is my test-file:

--8<---cut here---start->8---
\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[garamond]
\starttext
\input tufte
\it
\input tufte
\bf
\input tufte
\stoptext
--8<---cut here---end--->8---

The output is here: http://pmrb.free.fr/tmp/test.pdf and it's very ugly.

How could I get better results please?

TIA for any help!
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