Re: [NTG-context] define vs setup
On 26-7-2012 05:21, S Barmeier wrote: You can \setup what you \define|d yourself and \setup what is pre\define|d, but not \setup something that is not \define|d. Maybe ;) it depends .. often it's: \definexx[whatever] \definexx[whatever][settings] \definexx[another][parent] \definexx[another][parent][settings] \setupxx[settings] \setupxx[another][settings] \setupxx[whatever][settings] sometimes there are no defines because a feature is generic or global in nature. often a define generates a command (\whatever, \startwhatever), etc btw, a redefine does not reset already set parameters (in mkii that is often the case but not in mkiv) it all depends on what kind of functionality you're dealing with Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] define vs setup
On 07/26/2012 04:13 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: On 26-7-2012 05:21, S Barmeier wrote: You can \setup what you \define|d yourself and \setup what is pre\define|d, but not \setup something that is not \define|d. Maybe ;) it depends .. often it's: \definexx[whatever] \definexx[whatever][settings] \definexx[another][parent] \definexx[another][parent][settings] \setupxx[settings] \setupxx[another][settings] \setupxx[whatever][settings] sometimes there are no defines because a feature is generic or global in nature. often a define generates a command (\whatever, \startwhatever), etc btw, a redefine does not reset already set parameters (in mkii that is often the case but not in mkiv) it all depends on what kind of functionality you're dealing with Hans OK, let's deal with a specific use case. I'm publisher/editor/reporter/photographer/mailer/janitor/coffeemaker for an organizational newsletter. I've done lots of other newsletters before but using DTP programs. I really want to use ConTeXt for this one because the layout is (required to be) absolutely identical from one issue to the next. Like a traditional newspaper, the front page will contain the masthead, headline and (for this one) a mandatory Privacy Act Notification. I'm virtually certain I can handle the three special bits using layers and which will leave the margins and text area the same as the rest of the pages albeit with no header or footer. Hence, by definition, the front page is a makeup page for which the examples on the wiki are a bit, shall we say, sparse. Without the makeup page, a \setuplayout [settings] works just wonderfully - I have a dummy with which I'm doing testing so I actually tried it. :) Would I correctly, then, do the following: % Global layout \setuplayout [settings] \definelayout [frontpage] [settings] % Only those things that are different from the global \definemakeup [frontpage] % other definitions, fonts yadda, yadda, yadda \starttext \startmakeup [frontpage] % place the layers % content \stopmakup % continue content as required \stoptext Sorry for the length of this note but I thought it better to explain the whole thing upfront than in bits and pieces. Thanks for all the help. I'm really loving ConTeXt but switching after mumble years of using LaTeX and DTP programs is proving a little more of a challenge than I expected. Old dogs *can* learn new tricks but it takes a bit more work. :) -- Bill Meahan, Westland, Michigan USA “Writing is a combination of intangible creative fantasy and appallingly hard work.” —Anthony Powell This message is digitally signed with an X.509 certificate to prove it is from me and has not been altered since it was sent. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] define vs setup
On 2012-07-26 Bill Meahan wmeaha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bill, it's a typo: \stopmakup \stopmakeup Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] define vs setup
On 07/26/2012 11:34 AM, Marco Patzer wrote: On 2012-07-26 Bill Meahan wmeaha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bill, it's a typo: \stopmakup \stopmakeup Sorry 'bout that. :) I've never been a good typist even though I can dump a lot of text into a file in a short time. It *is* correct in my actual test file. -- Bill Meahan, Westland, Michigan USA “Writing is a combination of intangible creative fantasy and appallingly hard work.” —Anthony Powell This message is digitally signed with an X.509 certificate to prove it is from me and has not been altered since it was sent. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] how to avoid CID Identity-H encoding?
Hi Hans, hi friends, while the PDF that are produced by MkIV show no problems, some applications that use these PDF files for post-processing have big problems with CID/Encoding Identity-H. For example (as far as I have understood) german umlauts eg. ä are not recognized anymore but split in eg. a and diaeresis (with a space between?). I was told, that other PDF creators have an option to avoid using this kind of encoding. Is this also possible with MkIV? Thanks, Steffen ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] define vs setup
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Bill Meahan wrote: I really want to use ConTeXt for this one because the layout is (required to be) absolutely identical from one issue to the next. There is one thing that I warmly suggest you to do, and that is making backups of ConTeXt versions that you use for production. ConTeXt is lightweight enough, so you can easily afford storing the versions you use along with content, and then try to compile your documents both with the latest greatest version as well as some backup version, just to make sure that everything is still perfectly fine in both. MKII is stable, but MKIV is still a moving target and from time to time one or the other thing changes (LaTeX is in a sense way more stable, but on the other hand 99.9% of the time you have no chance that anyone would implement any feature request to make your life easier). Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] define vs setup
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 06:15:31PM +0200, Mojca Miklavec wrote: LaTeX is in a sense way more stable Which is mostly an illusion, packages do change all the time, hyphenation patterns change, fonts change and engines change (even pdfTeX), and unlike ConTeXt backups are much harder to take (short of backing up your whole TeX Live installation). Regards, Khaled ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] how to avoid CID Identity-H encoding?
On 26-7-2012 17:59, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Hi Hans, hi friends, while the PDF that are produced by MkIV show no problems, some applications that use these PDF files for post-processing have big problems with CID/Encoding Identity-H. For example (as far as I have understood) german umlauts eg. ä are not recognized anymore but split in eg. a and diaeresis (with a space between?). I was told, that other PDF creators have an option to avoid using this kind of encoding. Is this also possible with MkIV? afaik context output the right tounicode info so i have no clue what goes wrong there Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Struggling with custom title command
Hi,
my document was compiling fine with an old beta (guess it was from late may -
early june). Today I updated to the latest beta and now I've got a problem with
my custom chapter command:
\def\ChapterCmd#1#2% #1 is number, #2 is text
{\vbox{#1\blank#2}}
\setuphead [chapter][command=\ChapterCmd, style={\ss\bfc}, page=right,
number=yes, frame=off, placehead=yes, align=left, before={},
after={\blank[3*line]}, header=nomarking]
The resulting error is:
! Argument of \ChapterCmd has an extra }.
system tex error on line 103 in file main.tex: Argument of …
Any idea what's wrong? The error message does not mean anything to me.
Thanks in advance!
Cheers,
Steffen
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[NTG-context] new beta
Hi, I uploaded a beta. There is also an updated status-mkiv document: files done644 files todo314 files pending 21 (some day) obsolete2 total 981 So, I have some files to go (mostly lua files) before I pick up the column thread. The memory footprint should be somewhat smaller for non cjk usage. (format generation as well as runtime) and the format file is some 10-15% smaller now. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Struggling with custom title command
On Thu, 26 Jul 2012, Steffen Fritzsche wrote:
Hi,
my document was compiling fine with an old beta (guess it was from late may -
early june). Today I updated to the latest beta and now I've got a problem with
my custom chapter command:
\def\ChapterCmd#1#2% #1 is number, #2 is text
{\vbox{#1\blank#2}}
Use
\unexpanded\def\Cha
Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Struggling with custom title command
Am 26.07.2012 um 20:11 schrieb Steffen Fritzsche:
Hi,
my document was compiling fine with an old beta (guess it was from late may -
early june). Today I updated to the latest beta and now I've got a problem
with my custom chapter command:
\def\ChapterCmd#1#2% #1 is number, #2 is text
{\vbox{#1\blank#2}}
\define[2]\ChapterCmd
{\vbox{#1\blank#2}}
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Struggling with custom title command
Thank you Aditya for your quick response! Now, it's compiling again :)
Steffen
Am 26.07.2012 um 20:16 schrieb Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2012, Steffen Fritzsche wrote:
Hi,
my document was compiling fine with an old beta (guess it was from late may
- early june). Today I updated to the latest beta and now I've got a problem
with my custom chapter command:
\def\ChapterCmd#1#2% #1 is number, #2 is text
{\vbox{#1\blank#2}}
Use
\unexpanded\def\Cha
Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] new beta
On 26/07/12 20:12, Hans Hagen wrote: Hi, I uploaded a beta. There is also an updated status-mkiv document: files done644 files todo314 files pending 21 (some day) obsolete2 total 981 So, I have some files to go (mostly lua files) before I pick up the column thread. The memory footprint should be somewhat smaller for non cjk usage. (format generation as well as runtime) and the format file is some 10-15% smaller now. Many thanks for the new beta, Hans. I'm not sure whether this is important, but http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/qrcs/setup-en.pdf#page=3 contains the date July z, 2012 Just in case it helps, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Struggling with custom title command
On 26-7-2012 20:25, Steffen Fritzsche wrote:
Thank you Aditya for your quick response! Now, it's compiling again :)
This is the upcoming but already working new method (th eold will also
keep working):
\defineheadalternative
[mine]
[alternative=vertical,
renderingsetup=minetoo,
left=(,
right=)]
\startsetups[minetoo]
\headsetupspacing
\ifconditional\headshownumber
\headalternativeparameter{left}
\headnumbercontent
\headalternativeparameter{right}
\fi
\quad
\headtextcontent
\stopsetups
\setuphead[section][alternative=mine]
\starttext
\section{test}
\stoptext
So, we move towards using setups and caling up content by name
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] new beta
2012/7/27 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl: The memory footprint should be somewhat smaller for non cjk usage. (format generation as well as runtime) and the format file is some 10-15% smaller now. The fonts fallback can not work. This is a minmal example: \definefontsynonym[song][name:adobesongstd] \definefontfallback[hereos][name:texgyreherosregular][0x-0x0400] \definefontsynonym[fbsong][song][fallbacks=hereos] \definefont[newsong][fbsong] \starttext \newsong 夹杂 English 的中文文本 \stoptext When I compile it, i get an error: error: ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-col.lua:213: Invalid field id font for node type hlist (3) -- Best regards, Li Yanrui (李延瑞) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
