Re: [NTG-context] (no subject)

2013-01-23 Thread Taco hoekwater


Op 24 jan. 2013 om 01:59 heeft Alfredo Catalina 



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Re: [NTG-context] ToC - dots distance

2013-01-23 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 23.01.2013 um 23:11 schrieb Marco Patzer :

> On 2013–01–23 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> 
> Out of curiosity: Is possible to set up the new filler mechanism in
> a way to yield alternating dots like in the TeXbook?
> 
>>> default look:
>>> 
>>> 1. First chapter  ...   1
>>> 2. Second chapter ...  10 
>>> 
>>> requested look:
>>> 
>>> 1. First chapter  . . . . . . . . . .   1
>>> 2. Second chapter . . . . . . . . . .  10
> 
> alternating look (Knuths' TeXbook style)
> 
> 1. First chapter . . . . . . . . . . .  1
> 2. Second chapter . . . . . . . . . .  10

\definefiller[pavel-0][alterntive=symbol,method=global,width=1em,leftmargin=.5em,rightmargin=.5em,symbol=\clap{.}]
\definefiller[pavel-1][pavel-0][align=left]
\definefiller[pavel-2][pavel-0][align=middle]

\newconditional\PavelState

\define\PavelFiller
  {\ifconditional\PavelState
 \global\setfalse\PavelState
 \filler[pavel-1]%
   \else
 \global\settrue\PavelState
 \filler[pavel-2]%
   \fi}

% \define\PavelFiller
%   {\ifodd\structurelistlocation % does the value alternate?
%  \filler[pavel-1]%
%\else
%  \filler[pavel-2]%
%\fi}

\setuplistalternative[c][filler=\PavelFiller]

\starttext

\completecontent[alternative=c]

\dorecurse{10}{\expanded{\chapter{Chapter \recurselevel}}}

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] ToC - dots distance

2013-01-23 Thread Marco Patzer
On 2013–01–23 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

Out of curiosity: Is possible to set up the new filler mechanism in
a way to yield alternating dots like in the TeXbook?

> > default look:
> > 
> > 1. First chapter  ...   1
> > 2. Second chapter ...  10 
> > 
> > requested look:
> > 
> > 1. First chapter  . . . . . . . . . .   1
> > 2. Second chapter . . . . . . . . . .  10

alternating look (Knuths' TeXbook style)

1. First chapter . . . . . . . . . . .  1
2. Second chapter . . . . . . . . . .  10

Marco


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Re: [NTG-context] ToC - dots distance

2013-01-23 Thread Devendra Ghate


On 01/24/2013 01:35 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

Am 23.01.2013 um 20:56 schrieb Devendra Ghate :


On 01/24/2013 12:51 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

Am 23.01.2013 um 20:10 schrieb ha...@wpb.cz:


Hi,

I need to change the default distance of dots in ToC using alternative
"c". Could anybody tell me, how can I achieve this? So it should look
like this:


default look:

1. First chapter  ...   1
2. Second chapter ...  10

requested look:

1. First chapter  . . . . . . . . . .   1
2. Second chapter . . . . . . . . . .  10

\definefiller
   [pavel]
   [alterntive=symbol,
   %method=global,
width=1em,
leftmargin=.5em,
rightmargin=.5em]

\setuplistalternative[c][filler={\filler[pavel]}]

\starttext

\completecontent[alternative=c]

\chapter{First chapter}
\chapter{Second chapter}

\stoptext

Wolfgang
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Is that a complete MWE?

Yes.


It doesn't work on ConTeXt  ver: 2013.01.10 01:04 MKIV.

You need a newer version, the command is new and provides a high level 
interface for the \leaders macro.
This is some serious pace of development. I had just about installed 
context

couple of weeks ago and already I need an update.

Thank you.
Devendra



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Re: [NTG-context] ToC - dots distance

2013-01-23 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 23.01.2013 um 20:56 schrieb Devendra Ghate :

> 
> On 01/24/2013 12:51 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>> Am 23.01.2013 um 20:10 schrieb ha...@wpb.cz:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I need to change the default distance of dots in ToC using alternative
>>> "c". Could anybody tell me, how can I achieve this? So it should look
>>> like this:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> default look:
>>> 
>>> 1. First chapter  ...   1
>>> 2. Second chapter ...  10
>>> 
>>> requested look:
>>> 
>>> 1. First chapter  . . . . . . . . . .   1
>>> 2. Second chapter . . . . . . . . . .  10
>> \definefiller
>>   [pavel]
>>   [alterntive=symbol,
>>   %method=global,
>>width=1em,
>>leftmargin=.5em,
>>rightmargin=.5em]
>> 
>> \setuplistalternative[c][filler={\filler[pavel]}]
>> 
>> \starttext
>> 
>> \completecontent[alternative=c]
>> 
>> \chapter{First chapter}
>> \chapter{Second chapter}
>> 
>> \stoptext
>> 
>> Wolfgang
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> Is that a complete MWE?

Yes.

> It doesn't work on ConTeXt  ver: 2013.01.10 01:04 MKIV.

You need a newer version, the command is new and provides a high level 
interface for the \leaders macro.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] ToC - dots distance

2013-01-23 Thread Devendra Ghate


On 01/24/2013 12:51 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

Am 23.01.2013 um 20:10 schrieb ha...@wpb.cz:


Hi,

I need to change the default distance of dots in ToC using alternative
"c". Could anybody tell me, how can I achieve this? So it should look
like this:


default look:

1. First chapter  ...   1
2. Second chapter ...  10

requested look:

1. First chapter  . . . . . . . . . .   1
2. Second chapter . . . . . . . . . .  10

\definefiller
   [pavel]
   [alterntive=symbol,
   %method=global,
width=1em,
leftmargin=.5em,
rightmargin=.5em]

\setuplistalternative[c][filler={\filler[pavel]}]

\starttext

\completecontent[alternative=c]

\chapter{First chapter}
\chapter{Second chapter}

\stoptext

Wolfgang
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 Is that a complete MWE? It doesn't work on ConTeXt  ver: 2013.01.10 
01:04 MKIV.


I get:
---
! Undefined control sequence.

system  > tex > error on line 1 in file a.tex: Undefined control 
sequence ...


 1 >>  \definefiller
 2   [pavel]
 3   [alterntive=symbol,
 4   %method=global,


Searching the wiki and mailing list also turned zero results for 
\definefiller.


Regards,
Devendra








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[NTG-context] Big with \widehat and \widetilde

2013-01-23 Thread Otared Kavian
Hi Hans,

With the latest betas (version 2013.01.23 14:45 MKIV  fmt: 2013.1.23)
 \widehat and \widetilde 
do not work anymore in mkiv (no matter the font): minimal example

 begin bug-tilde.tex
\starttext

${\widetilde V}$

${\tilde u}$

${\widehat \phi}$

${\hat \alpha}$

\stoptext
 end bug-tilde.tex
For your information, the same file works fine in mkii.

Best regards: OK
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Re: [NTG-context] ToC - dots distance

2013-01-23 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 23.01.2013 um 20:10 schrieb ha...@wpb.cz:

> Hi,
> 
> I need to change the default distance of dots in ToC using alternative
> "c". Could anybody tell me, how can I achieve this? So it should look
> like this:
> 
> 
> default look:
> 
> 1. First chapter  ...   1
> 2. Second chapter ...  10 
> 
> requested look:
> 
> 1. First chapter  . . . . . . . . . .   1
> 2. Second chapter . . . . . . . . . .  10

\definefiller
  [pavel]
  [alterntive=symbol,
  %method=global,
   width=1em,
   leftmargin=.5em,
   rightmargin=.5em]

\setuplistalternative[c][filler={\filler[pavel]}]

\starttext

\completecontent[alternative=c]

\chapter{First chapter}
\chapter{Second chapter}

\stoptext

Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] ToC - dots distance

2013-01-23 Thread hanak
Hi,

I need to change the default distance of dots in ToC using alternative
"c". Could anybody tell me, how can I achieve this? So it should look
like this:


default look:

1. First chapter  ...   1
2. Second chapter ...  10 

requested look:

1. First chapter  . . . . . . . . . .   1
2. Second chapter . . . . . . . . . .  10

Thank for any help.

Pavel
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[NTG-context] Paragraph indentation after float

2013-01-23 Thread Marco Patzer
Hi,

sometimes I get a paragraph indentation after a float and sometimes
I don't. Example:

\ctxlua{structures.lists.autoreorder = true}
\setupindenting [yes, medium]
\setupfloats[default=auto]
\starttext
\startchapter [title=Foo]

\startplacefigure
  \externalfigure [cow] %% [height=21cm]
\stopplacefigure

\startplacefigure
  \externalfigure [cow] [height=11cm]
\stopplacefigure

\input knuth
\stopchapter
\stoptext

Why does this chapter start with an indentation? I always avoid
placing floats at the beginning of sections, since I can never
predict what will happen. If the first float is moved to the second
page (uncomment height=21cm) the indentation vanishes. Why?

Is there a reliable way to place floats at the beginning of sections
and ensure that the following paragraph will not be indented?

Marco


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Re: [NTG-context] Equivalent commands for \big \Big etc. in mathmode

2013-01-23 Thread Devendra Ghate


On 01/23/2013 09:27 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jan 2013, Devendra Ghate wrote:


If I want to say that dy/dx is calculated at z

then in latex I can write

\frac{dy}{dx}\Big|_z

The \Big is to scale | according to the size of the \frac.

I am using newmat and amsl modules that have supported
the native math mode commands till now. But context does
not recognise \Big.

What is the native context way of doing this?

Regards,
Devendra

MWE (in case its needed)---

\usemodule[newmat]
\usemodule[amsl]

\starttext
 \startformula
   \frac{dy}{dx}\Big|_z
 \stopformula
\stoptext


In MkIV, you don't need the newmat module and amsl module is 
deprecated in both MkII and MkIV.


\starttext
 \startformula
   \left.\frac{dy}{dx}\right|_z
 \stopformula
\stoptext

Aditya


Thanks Aditya. Need to read manuals more carefully.


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Re: [NTG-context] Equivalent commands for \big \Big etc. in mathmode

2013-01-23 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Wed, 23 Jan 2013, Devendra Ghate wrote:


If I want to say that dy/dx is calculated at z

then in latex I can write

\frac{dy}{dx}\Big|_z

The \Big is to scale | according to the size of the \frac.

I am using newmat and amsl modules that have supported
the native math mode commands till now. But context does
not recognise \Big.

What is the native context way of doing this?

Regards,
Devendra

MWE (in case its needed)---

\usemodule[newmat]
\usemodule[amsl]

\starttext
 \startformula
   \frac{dy}{dx}\Big|_z
 \stopformula
\stoptext


In MkIV, you don't need the newmat module and amsl module is deprecated in 
both MkII and MkIV.


\starttext
 \startformula
   \left.\frac{dy}{dx}\right|_z
 \stopformula
\stoptext

Aditya
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[NTG-context] Equivalent commands for \big \Big etc. in mathmode

2013-01-23 Thread Devendra Ghate

If I want to say that dy/dx is calculated at z

then in latex I can write

\frac{dy}{dx}\Big|_z

The \Big is to scale | according to the size of the \frac.

I am using newmat and amsl modules that have supported
the native math mode commands till now. But context does
not recognise \Big.

What is the native context way of doing this?

Regards,
Devendra

MWE (in case its needed)---

\usemodule[newmat]
\usemodule[amsl]

\starttext
  \startformula
\frac{dy}{dx}\Big|_z
  \stopformula
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Prioritise TEXMFHOME

2013-01-23 Thread Marco Patzer
On 2013–01–23 Mojca Miklavec wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Marco Patzer wrote:
> >
> > I used the following setup to create a reproducible clean
> > environment without interference of possibly set variables.
> >
> > echo '\sans' >mymodules/t-gnuplot.tex
> 
> You should put the file under
>mymodules/tex/context/third/t-gnuplot.tex
> and not just anywhere on top level of $TEXMFHOME.

That works, thanks. I didn't think about the importance of the tex
file system structure within TEXMFHOME since my personal files
always have been picked up from random subdirectories within
TEXMFHOME.

> At least somewhere under mymodules/tex/ (but I'm not sure if that
> alone is 100% safe - that is - I'm not sure about the search/sort
> order of two files with the same name under a different path inside
> the texmf tree).

mymodules/tex doesn't seem to be sufficient. My tests revealed that
for files not present in the distribution tex tree the location
within TEXMFHOME does not matter. Files present in the distribution
which are supposed to be overwritten in TEXMFHOME need the same
path. Maybe this is more strict than necessary, but it works. A
version mismatch that gets unnoticed can be very frustrating.

> > I didn't know ConTeXt uses kpsewhich.
> 
> In MkII it does. But I meant it more like a cross-check. It might be
> that there would be some bug in mtxrun when searching for files and in
> that case kpsewhich may serve as a confirmation that your set up works
> or doesn't work properly.

All right. Problem solved. Thanks Mojca!

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Re: [NTG-context] Prioritise TEXMFHOME

2013-01-23 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Marco Patzer wrote:
>
> I used the following setup to create a reproducible clean
> environment without interference of possibly set variables.
>
> echo '\sans' >mymodules/t-gnuplot.tex

You should put the file under
   mymodules/tex/context/third/t-gnuplot.tex
and not just anywhere on top level of $TEXMFHOME.

At least somewhere under mymodules/tex/ (but I'm not sure if that
alone is 100% safe - that is - I'm not sure about the search/sort
order of two files with the same name under a different path inside
the texmf tree).

>> - What does 'kpsewhich t-gnuplot.tex' return you?
>
> I didn't know ConTeXt uses kpsewhich.

In MkII it does. But I meant it more like a cross-check. It might be
that there would be some bug in mtxrun when searching for files and in
that case kpsewhich may serve as a confirmation that your set up works
or doesn't work properly.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Bug in reference to sections

2013-01-23 Thread Hans Hagen

On 1/23/2013 11:10 AM, Otared Kavian wrote:


Thanks to Hans and Wolfgang for your attention and the workarounds you offer.
When I want to refer to an un-numbered section, it makes sense in an 
interactive document. Maybe, instead of
 \in{other section}[sec:other]
I should use another command such as
\about[sec:other]
but in this case all the title of the section in question will be typeset: this 
is fine when this title is short enough, but it may be ugly if the title is 
long, or when one wishes to refer to that section by a paraphrase.


or \goto


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Re: [NTG-context] Prioritise TEXMFHOME

2013-01-23 Thread Marco Patzer
On 2013–01–22 Mojca Miklavec wrote:

> I don't know how to reproduce that even though I remember that I had
> problem if I set "export TEXMFHOME=/path/with/trailing/slash/".

I used the following setup to create a reproducible clean
environment without interference of possibly set variables.

curl -O http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/first-setup.sh
chmod +x first-setup.sh
./first-setup.sh --modules=t-gnuplot
mkdir mymodules
echo '\bold' >mymodules/t-mymodule.tex
echo '\sans' >mymodules/t-gnuplot.tex
cat > test-mymodule.tex < test-mygnuplot.tex < What does
> mtxrun t-gnuplot.tex
> return you?

test setup:
/home/fusion/tex/texmf-modules/tex/context/third/gnuplot/t-gnuplot.tex
mymodules/t-gnuplot.tex

in my real setup only the distribution file is found. I didn't yet
try to figure out why.

> - What is your $TEXMFHOME and how did you change it in case that you did?

See minimal example above. In my real setup it's

  /home/marco/usr/share/texmf

and it's set in $HOME/.profile using export TEXMFHOME=…

> - Where exactly is your file t-gnuplot.tex?

See minimal example above. In my real setup it's

  /home/marco/usr/share/texmf/t-gnuplot.tex

> - Do you run MkIV?

Yes

> With current beta or with TeX Live?

current version: 2013.01.22 18:33

> - What does 'kpsewhich t-gnuplot.tex' return you?

I didn't know ConTeXt uses kpsewhich.

test setup:
/home/fusion/tex/texmf-modules/tex/context/third/gnuplot/t-gnuplot.tex

real setup:
/home/marco/usr/local/share/context-beta/tex/texmf-modules/tex/context/third/gnuplot/t-gnuplot.tex

Marco


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Re: [NTG-context] Bug in reference to sections

2013-01-23 Thread Otared Kavian

On 23 janv. 2013, at 09:38, Hans Hagen  wrote:

> As there are indeed side effects I'll remove that options. Asking for a 
> number of an unnumbered section is weird anyway.
> 

Hi,

Thanks to Hans and Wolfgang for your attention and the workarounds you offer.
When I want to refer to an un-numbered section, it makes sense in an 
interactive document. Maybe, instead of 
 \in{other section}[sec:other] 
I should use another command such as
\about[sec:other]
but in this case all the title of the section in question will be typeset: this 
is fine when this title is short enough, but it may be ugly if the title is 
long, or when one wishes to refer to that section by a paraphrase.

Best regards: OK 
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Re: [NTG-context] Bug in reference to sections

2013-01-23 Thread Marco Patzer
On 2013–01–23 Hans Hagen wrote:

> >IIRC this was a feature request a while ago, the macros to print ?? and !! 
> >are defined as

I'm the one to blame!

> >
> >\def\dummyreference{{\tttf ??}}
> >\def\wrongreference{{\tttf !!}}
> 
> As there are indeed side effects I'll remove that options.

I hope you mean that you change the default back to the old
behaviour and the dummy text can be activated using the tracker.

> Asking for a number of an unnumbered section is weird anyway.

Sure, it doesn't make sense. But it happens if the style changes
halfway during production. In my case I had to change the \in to
\about for the unnumbered sections. Since I couldn't find a regular
expression for that, I had to change it manually and forgot a few.
If a dummy text is printed, it's easy to grep for that.

Marco


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Re: [NTG-context] Bug in reference to sections

2013-01-23 Thread Hans Hagen

On 1/23/2013 9:38 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 1/23/2013 9:12 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:


Am 23.01.2013 um 08:39 schrieb Otared Kavian :


Hi Hans,

I noticed that with the latest mkiv (version 2013.01.22 18:33 MKIV
fmt: 2013.1.22) when the sections have no numbers two « ! » are
printed and this behavior is new: with previous versions when
invoking for instance
\in{other section}[sec:other]
there used to be a link to the "other section" and no « ! ! ». I
understand that there has been a change in this behavior, but is
there a way to suppress the two « ! ! »?


IIRC this was a feature request a while ago, the macros to print ??
and !! are defined as

\def\dummyreference{{\tttf ??}}
\def\wrongreference{{\tttf !!}}


As there are indeed side effects I'll remove that options. Asking for a
number of an unnumbered section is weird anyway.


next beta:

\enabletrackers[structures.referencing.empty]

\starttext

\startfrontmatter
\chapter[test]{TEST}
\stopfrontmatter

\in{}[test]

\stoptext


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Re: [NTG-context] Bug in reference to sections

2013-01-23 Thread Hans Hagen

On 1/23/2013 9:12 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:


Am 23.01.2013 um 08:39 schrieb Otared Kavian :


Hi Hans,

I noticed that with the latest mkiv (version 2013.01.22 18:33 MKIV  fmt: 
2013.1.22) when the sections have no numbers two « ! » are printed and this 
behavior is new: with previous versions when invoking for instance
\in{other section}[sec:other]
there used to be a link to the "other section" and no « ! ! ». I understand 
that there has been a change in this behavior, but is there a way to suppress the two « ! 
! »?


IIRC this was a feature request a while ago, the macros to print ?? and !! are 
defined as

\def\dummyreference{{\tttf ??}}
\def\wrongreference{{\tttf !!}}


As there are indeed side effects I'll remove that options. Asking for a 
number of an unnumbered section is weird anyway.


Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] What is the easiest way to have multi lines in some of the cells in a table?

2013-01-23 Thread 土卜皿
hi, Wolfgang
   thanks!

BEST REGARD!
PengCZ


2013/1/23 Wolfgang Schuster 

>
> Am 23.01.2013 um 04:29 schrieb 土卜皿 :
>
> > hi,all
> >  my question as title described,Now I used the following method:
> >
> > \starttext
> > \placetable[here][tab:multilinesinonecell]{Multi Lines in
> >   One Cell}
> > \starttable[|c|c|c|][textwidth=8.8cm]
> > \HL
> > \NC \JustLeft FIRST COL \NC  \JustCenter \bf SECOND COL \NC\SR\HL
> > \NC \JustLeft first line  \NC  \JustLeft  one line in cell \NC\MR
> > \HL
> > \NC \JustLeft second line \NC  \JustLeft first line in second line's 2nd
> col \NC\MR
> > \NC\NC \JustLeft second line in second
> line's 2nd col \NC\MR
> > \HL
> > \NC \JustLeft third line \NC \JustLeft third line's 2nd col \NC\LR
> > \HL
> > \stoptable
> > \stoptext
>
> You need a “p” column to have paragraphs in a columns. You can also use
> natural tables
> which paragraphs aren’t a problem.
>
> \starttext
>
> \placetable[here][tab:multilinesinonecell]{Multi Lines in One Cell}
>   {\starttable[|l|p(5cm)|][textwidth=8.8cm]
>\HL
>\NC \bf FIRST COL \NC  \JustCenter \bf SECOND COL \NC\SR
>\HL
>\NC first line\NC  one line in cell \NC\MR
>\HL
>\NC second line   \NC  first line in second line's 2nd col  \par
>   second line in second line's 2nd col \NC\MR
>\HL
>\NC third line\NC third line's 2nd col \NC\LR
>\HL
>\stoptable}
>
> \placetable[here][tab:multilinesinonecell]{Multi Lines in One Cell}
>   {\setupTABLE[c][1][width=3.3cm]
>\setupTABLE[c][2][width=5.5cm]
>\bTABLE[frame=off,topframe=on,bottomframe=on]
>  \bTR[align=middle]
>\bTH FIRST COL \eTH
>\bTH SECOND COL \eTH
>  \eTR
>  \bTR
>\bTD first line \eTD
>\bTD one line in cell \eTD
>  \eTR
>  \bTR
>\bTD second line \eTD
>\bTD first line in second line's 2nd col  \par second line in
> second line's 2nd col \eTD
>  \eTR
>  \bTR
>\bTD third line \eTD
>\bTD third line's 2nd col \eTD
>  \eTR
>\eTABLE}
>
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang
>
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Re: [NTG-context] Bug in reference to sections

2013-01-23 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 23.01.2013 um 08:39 schrieb Otared Kavian :

> Hi Hans,
> 
> I noticed that with the latest mkiv (version 2013.01.22 18:33 MKIV  fmt: 
> 2013.1.22) when the sections have no numbers two « ! » are printed and this 
> behavior is new: with previous versions when invoking for instance
>   \in{other section}[sec:other]
> there used to be a link to the "other section" and no « ! ! ». I understand 
> that there has been a change in this behavior, but is there a way to suppress 
> the two « ! ! »?

IIRC this was a feature request a while ago, the macros to print ?? and !! are 
defined as

\def\dummyreference{{\tttf ??}}
\def\wrongreference{{\tttf !!}}

Wolfgang
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