Re: [NTG-context] \| should give two || and not one

2013-02-18 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist
Indeed, luigi, but is that what you expect?

/Mikael

On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 5:19 PM, luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist mic...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Dear list,

 \starttext
 $\|v\|$
 \stoptext

 I expect two vertical bars on each side of v, but see only one.

 Tested with the latest beta.

 For what I see

 \starttext
  $\|v\|$

  $\Vert v\Vert$

  $\vert v\vert$

  $‖v‖$

 \stoptext

 |푣|
 ‖푣‖
 |푣|
 ‖푣‖


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Re: [NTG-context] recalculate background on every page with \uniqueMPgraphic?

2013-02-18 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Marco Patzer home...@lavabit.com wrote:
 On 2013–02–15 Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote:

 with the (almost minimal) example below,

 I reduced your minimal example slightly further:

 \startuseMPgraphic{figram}
   StartPage; fill Field[Text][Text]; StopPage;
 \stopuseMPgraphic

 \starttext
   \useMPgraphic{figram}

   %% using the graphic a second time fails
   %% \useMPgraphic{figram}
 \stoptext

 I hoped that the frame would be recalculated at every page.

 That's not how uniqueMPgraphics work.


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Thank you Marco for giving a better example.

I thought that uniqueMPgraphic meant it was redrawn everytime while
useMPgraphic meant it was done once and then gave the same result
everytime used. I probably misunderstood something in the MetaFun
manual.

In any case: Is there a way to get different frames for every page in
a random way?

/Mikael
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Re: [NTG-context] mtxrun error

2013-02-18 Thread Hans Hagen

On 2/17/2013 9:07 PM, Philipp Gesang wrote:

Hi Alessandro!

···date: 2013-02-17, Sunday···from: Alessandro Perucchi···


Apparently nobody is interested in correcting this error on Mac OS X :-D


Afaict it’s not OSX related.


no .. binary so you have to wait till a new luatex release shows up (it 
only affects a few fonts)


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Re: [NTG-context] \| should give two || and not one

2013-02-18 Thread luigi scarso
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist mic...@gmail.com wrote:
 Indeed, luigi, but is that what you expect?
Hm, hard to say for me.
I find natural to use \vert and \Vert or, if possible, | and ‖ .
LaTeXt users find natural that  \| is ‖, but I don't see, as a ConTeXt
user,  a particular meaning in \| .



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Re: [NTG-context] \| should give two || and not one

2013-02-18 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:42 AM, luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist mic...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Indeed, luigi, but is that what you expect?
 Hm, hard to say for me.
 I find natural to use \vert and \Vert or, if possible, | and || .
 LaTeXt users find natural that  \| is ||, but I don't see, as a ConTeXt
 user,  a particular meaning in \| .


I think that since \| is defined as \Vert in the TeXbook and everyone
writing mathematics in LaTeX are used to \| to mean \Vert there is no
reason to have different behaviour in ConTeXt.

/Mikael
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Re: [NTG-context] recalculate background on every page with \uniqueMPgraphic?

2013-02-18 Thread Marco Patzer
On 2013–02–18 Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote:

 Thank you Marco for giving a better example.
 
 I thought that uniqueMPgraphic meant it was redrawn everytime while
 useMPgraphic meant it was done once and then gave the same result
 everytime used.

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context/79507/focus=79538

 In any case: Is there a way to get different frames for every page in
 a random way?

Using \startuseMPgraphic is the correct way, since you want the
graphic  to be recalculated every time. I have no clue why this
fails at the moment. It works fine in older versions, so I assume
it's a bug.


Marco


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Re: [NTG-context] simpleslides bug?

2013-02-18 Thread Jaroslav Hajtmar

With older version:
ConTeXt ver: 2013.01.02 18:19 MKIV fmt: 2013.1.7 int: english/english
works too! (Win7 64b).
In actual TeXlive 2012 version this example work too.


It seems that we gradually stop working other variations simpleslides 
module.

Eg. in my version does not work either as this:

\usemodule[simpleslides][style=BottomSquares]
\starttext
\SlideTitle{Test}
test
\stoptext

Win7 64b

This dont work neither in actual TeXlive 2012 version.

Jaroslav Hajtmar



Dne 18.2.2013 13:41, Procházka Lukáš Ing. - Pontex s. r. o. napsal(a):

... Works well with an older version:

ConTeXt ver: 2012.11.26 13:31 MKIV fmt: 2012.11.27 int: english/english

(WinXP 32b)

Lukas


On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 04:41:36 +0100, Zhichu Chen 
zhichu.c...@gmail.com wrote:



\usemodule[simpleslides][style=BigNumber]
\starttext
\SlideTitle{Test}
test
\stoptext





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[NTG-context] mp inclusions etc

2013-02-18 Thread Hans Hagen

Hi,

I updated the inclusion mechanism a bit. It's now:

% initializations:
%
% - pass settings from tex to mp (delayed expansion)
% - used by context core (and modules)
% - cummulative definitions
% - flushed each graphic
% - can be disabled per instance
% - managed at the tex end
%
% extensions:
%
% - add mp functionality (immediate expansion)
% - cummulative
% - all instances or subset of instances
% - can be disabled per instance
% - managed at the lua/mp end
% - could be managed at the tex end but no real reason and also messy
%
% definitions:
%
% - add mp functionality (delayed expansion)
% - cummulative
% - per instance
% - managed at the tex end
%
% inclusions:
%
% - add mp functionality (delayed expansion)
% - cummulative only when [+]
% - per instance
% - managed at the tex end
%
% order of execution:
%
%   definitions
%   extensions
%   inclusions
%   beginfig
% initializations
% graphic
%   endfig

So, the main differences are:

(1) inclusions bound to default or specific instanced
(2) extensions more flexible

\starttext

\startMPextensions
color ColorOne   ; ColorOne   := red ;
color ColorTwo   ; ColorTwo   := green ;
color ColorThree ; ColorThree := blue ;
\stopMPextensions

\startMPextensions{doublefun}
color ColorThree ; ColorThree := magenta ;
\stopMPextensions

\startMPinclusions
def DoWhatever = draw textext(N) ; enddef ;
\stopMPinclusions

\startMPinclusions
def DoWhatever = draw textext(Y) ; enddef ;
\stopMPinclusions

\startMPinclusions{doublefun}
def DoWhatever = draw textext(Y) ; enddef ;
\stopMPinclusions

\startMPinclusions[+]{doublefun}
def DoWhatever = draw textext(YY) ; enddef ;
\stopMPinclusions

\startMPcode{metafun}
draw fullcircle scaled 1cm withcolor ColorOne   withpen pencircle 
scaled 1mm ;
draw fullcircle scaled 2cm withcolor ColorTwo   withpen pencircle 
scaled 1mm ;
draw fullcircle scaled 3cm withcolor ColorThree withpen pencircle 
scaled 1mm ;

DoWhatever ;
\stopMPcode


\startMPcode{doublefun}
draw fullcircle scaled 1cm withcolor ColorOne   withpen pencircle 
scaled 1mm ;
draw fullcircle scaled 2cm withcolor ColorTwo   withpen pencircle 
scaled 1mm ;
draw fullcircle scaled 3cm withcolor ColorThree withpen pencircle 
scaled 1mm ;

DoWhatever ;
\stopMPcode

\stoptext

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[NTG-context] gnuplot module broken

2013-02-18 Thread Marco Patzer
Hi Mojca et al.

todays beta broke the gnuplot module. This is probably due to the
changes in the MP inclusion mechanism.

\usemodule [gnuplot]
\starttext
\stoptext

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[NTG-context] bug in paragraph notes

2013-02-18 Thread Pablo Rodríguez
Hi Hans,

two months ago, I reported a bug with paragraph linenotes not properly
separated from body.

Here was my sample:

\definelinenote[A]
\setupnote[A][paragraph=yes]
\setupnotation[A][alternative=serried]
\starttext
\startlinenumbering
\dorecurse{500}{body\A{note} }
\stoplinenumbering
\stoptext

Wolfgang confirmed that the bug appeared with paragraph notes:

\setupnote[footnote][paragraph=yes]
\setupnotation[footnote][alternative=serried,display=no]

\starttext
\dorecurse{200}{text text text\footnote{note} }
\stoptext

Using the beta from today, the bug is still there.

Could you fix the bug?

Many thanks for your help,


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Re: [NTG-context] gnuplot module broken

2013-02-18 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Marco Patzer wrote:
 Hi Mojca et al.

 todays beta broke the gnuplot module. This is probably due to the
 changes in the MP inclusion mechanism.

 \usemodule [gnuplot]
 \starttext
 \stoptext

Here's an almost minimal example:

\def\abc{1cm}

\startMPextensions
a := \abc;
color b;
b := \MPcolor{currentcolor};
\stopMPextensions

\def\abc{3cm}

\starttext
\startcolor[blue]
\startMPcode
fill fullcircle scaled a withcolor b;
\stopMPcode
\stopcolor
\stoptext

The old ConTeXt draws a blue circle with diameter 3cm and the new
ConTeXt draws a black circle with diameter 1cm. Which one is right?
From a recent message by Hans:

 - add mp functionality (immediate expansion)

It seems that ConTeXt now parses everything inside MPextensions
earlier than it did before and I don't have the slightest idea how to
account for this in the module without a major rewrite. In case that
Hans wants to keep the new functionality, I either need [quite some]
help with the module or I'll simply stick to TeX Live 2012 for the
foreseeable future ;)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] \| should give two || and not one

2013-02-18 Thread Keith J. Schultz
Hi All,

In a way, it is correct that for compatibility reasons and and convert
it is good to keep the old syntax.

Yet, ConTeXt is suppose to be more natural. 

Personally, I find some of the names used in TeX and LaTeX often
hard to find. Whenever, I needed a function or symbol I to often
go look it up. I mean that \vert and \Vert are still cryptic. They can stand
for abs, for all in, etc. ..

Me, I prefer names that reflect the their functions, 

regards
Keith.

Am 18.02.2013 um 10:51 schrieb Mikael P. Sundqvist mic...@gmail.com:

 On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:42 AM, luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist mic...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Indeed, luigi, but is that what you expect?
 Hm, hard to say for me.
 I find natural to use \vert and \Vert or, if possible, | and || .
 LaTeXt users find natural that  \| is ||, but I don't see, as a ConTeXt
 user,  a particular meaning in \| .
 
 
 I think that since \| is defined as \Vert in the TeXbook and everyone
 writing mathematics in LaTeX are used to \| to mean \Vert there is no
 reason to have different behaviour in ConTeXt.
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