[NTG-context] [OT] Twenty Questions for DEK
http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=2213858WT.mc_id=Author_Knuth_20Questions Quote: “The people at MSP wrote special software that converts my TeX source text into suitable input to other software that creates pdf files.” I wonder why using a TeX engine capable of producing PDF output directly wasn’t an option. Best, Philipp pgp2Ig_FAkMQK.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [OT] Twenty Questions for DEK
On 5/21/2014 8:16 AM, Philipp Gesang wrote: http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=2213858WT.mc_id=Author_Knuth_20Questions Quote: “The people at MSP wrote special software that converts my TeX source text into suitable input to other software that creates pdf files.” I wonder why using a TeX engine capable of producing PDF output directly wasn’t an option. Don't overestimate the large publishers. They often have no clue what interactive pdf is or what is needed to make it, and that it can be done easily. Also, as they have no rd, they seldom know that producing both an advanced screen pdf and printable one from the same source without adaption is an option. This apart from the fact that there is really nothing new happening: it's just that we now have devices that run on batteries longer (we made out first interactive docs 15-20 years ago and there were simply no (cheap) devices then. But the techniques for producing those docs (as well as the features) are mostly the same. Things that are normal for us texies are alien for most publishers, also because they outsource these things. They are not aware of tex (maybe only know the name) and of what it can(not) do. A publisher who knows how to apply tex and friends has definitely an advantage but that demands a horizon different from stockholders. In fact, awareness of pdf as option is (imo) mostly surfacing because html viewers opened their eyes. We can produce highly interactive documents but I still have to meet the first publishers who really wants them (given that they see it as option). It is not uncommon for publishers to waste many man years (hiring extra people) on getting stuff on the web using the same sources that are used to get the paper: paper becomes a side effect. (This is also why I would not be surprised if within a decade those publishers will disappear and be replaced by smaller ones and/or self publishing, but that's another matter.) Concerning DEK's books: given that the layout is kind of fixed (as Don puts a lot of admirable effort in the whole look and feel) I assume we're talking of interactive variants of the same layout. In that case it's a matter of adapting macros (not too hard, would even be fun to do) to get the interactivity in there. I'm pretty sure that Don knows well what happens in tex community (including recent developments like luatex) but that doesn't change the fact that in the end the publisher rules. Maybe these e-books have some banding (like printing the user's name someplace) but that is also ancient trickery (which in my opinion is also a bad thing: imagine your paper books or music you buy being branded). Hans (I'm still waiting for 500+ dpi e-ink kind of devices as reading from a too bright lcd screen is no real option for me yet, apart from a bit of browsing.) - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [OT] Twenty Questions for DEK
On 5/21/2014 8:16 AM, Philipp Gesang wrote: http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=2213858WT.mc_id=Author_Knuth_20Questions Quote: “The people at MSP wrote special software that converts my TeX source text into suitable input to other software that creates pdf files.” I wonder why using a TeX engine capable of producing PDF output directly wasn’t an option. The part about geeks of 200 years ago is interesting. Also this: local quote = [[ I still think many years will have to go by before I would recommend that my own highly intelligent wife, son, and daughter should learn to program, much less that everybody else I know should do so.]] local maybe = string.gsub(quote,program,TeX) Who knows ... Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [OT] Twenty Questions for DEK
On 5/21/2014 8:16 AM, Philipp Gesang wrote: http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=2213858WT.mc_id=Author_Knuth_20Questions Quote: “The people at MSP wrote special software that converts my TeX source text into suitable input to other software that creates pdf files.” I wonder why using a TeX engine capable of producing PDF output directly wasn’t an option. Ok, I think this is what sums it: quote: My principal goal was to make the books easily searchable—and that's a much more challenging problem than it seems, if you want to do it right. Secondarily, I wanted to let readers easily click on the number of any exercise or equation or illustration or table or algorithm, etc., and to jump to that exercise; also to jump readily between an exercise and its answer. (1) The interactive bit is rather trivial: cross references, tocs and indices, linking answers and questions, are already generated so there one only needs to add some hyperlinking code (maybe some additional housekeeping if backlinks or in the case of indices linked backlinks are supported but it is probably kept simple in order not to spoil the look and feel.) (2) The searching might be more complex as traditional 8 bit fonts are used in plain tex, so there is some tounicode magic needed (not too hard either, mostly housekeeping and careful checking) ... math can be somewhat complex there as not all is copyable, given that it's needed, but on the other hand, searching is also non trivial: does a reader search for unicode symbol math italic i or for just an i? Copying math demands a proper tounicode, but I bet no viewer can search for both kind of tagging at the same time (math alphabet stuff). Searching regular text of course is no issue. (3) The question is: has more been added than just basic access as in books? Crosslinking books and so? So, no rocket science, mostly careful keeping the original (not interfering with breaks and so) so that is probably where most of the work went into. If pdftex was used, one thing to keep in mind is that adding whatsits can interfere sometimes. This can be avoided by luatex but then one has to accept the fact that the output can differ (no lig recomposition), although that can be checked by diffing pdf's and making local exceptions. A nice challenge: kind of making an electronic facsimile i.e. don't touch (spoil) the original. Hans ps. An interesting audience, those asking the questions. - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Fwd: Oldstyle numbers
I’m new to ConText and so my question may be a stupid one. But I hope somebody can help me: How can I activate »old style numbers« (Medievalziffern). I thought, it should work like this: \setupbodyfont[palatino, 10pt] \definefontfeature [default] [default] [onum=yes] But this doesn’t work. What do I have to do? Many thanks for your help! ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Blindtext
And just another strange question: Is there any command like \blindtext (or \blinddocument) in LaTeX? I just try to figure out how Kontext works, and so it would ne fine to have some texte every time available. (I can put some text from everywhere, but the blindtext package is much more comfortable.) Thank you! ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Blindtext
On 5/21/2014 10:59 AM, Werner Hintze wrote: And just another strange question: Is there any command like \blindtext (or \blinddocument) in LaTeX? I just try to figure out how Kontext works, and so it would ne fine to have some texte every time available. (I can put some text from everywhere, but the blindtext package is much more comfortable.) What is \blindtext ? Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Fwd: Oldstyle numbers
On 5/21/2014 10:58 AM, Werner Hintze wrote: I’m new to ConText and so my question may be a stupid one. But I hope somebody can help me: How can I activate »old style numbers« (Medievalziffern). I thought, it should work like this: \setupbodyfont[palatino, 10pt] \definefontfeature [default] [default] [onum=yes] But this doesn’t work. What do I have to do? first redefine the feature, then load the bodyfont, so swap these commands Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Blindtext
It’ a command which inserts some nonsense text where I put it. I Latex I can chose how many paragraphs I want to have and can even setuo a whole document with chapters, sections etc. It’s fine for Testung Layouts and font settings. On 21 May 2014, at 11:04, Hans Hagen wrote: On 5/21/2014 10:59 AM, Werner Hintze wrote: And just another strange question: Is there any command like \blindtext (or \blinddocument) in LaTeX? I just try to figure out how Kontext works, and so it would ne fine to have some texte every time available. (I can put some text from everywhere, but the blindtext package is much more comfortable.) What is \blindtext ? Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Oldstyle numbers
Wow! Thank you. Now I unterstand. On 21 May 2014, at 11:06, Hans Hagen wrote: On 5/21/2014 10:58 AM, Werner Hintze wrote: I’m new to ConText and so my question may be a stupid one. But I hope somebody can help me: How can I activate »old style numbers« (Medievalziffern). I thought, it should work like this: \setupbodyfont[palatino, 10pt] \definefontfeature [default] [default] [onum=yes] But this doesn’t work. What do I have to do? first redefine the feature, then load the bodyfont, so swap these commands Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Blindtext
On 5/21/2014 11:08 AM, Werner Hintze wrote: It’ a command which inserts some nonsense text where I put it. I Latex I can chose how many paragraphs I want to have and can even setuo a whole document with chapters, sections etc. It’s fine for Testung Layouts and font settings. \usemodule[visual] \starttext some \fakewords{4}{8} here \fakelines{3}{5} \stoptext or \usemodule[ipsum] you can run : context --global m-ipsum.mkiv to get an idea about that one On 21 May 2014, at 11:04, Hans Hagen wrote: On 5/21/2014 10:59 AM, Werner Hintze wrote: And just another strange question: Is there any command like \blindtext (or \blinddocument) in LaTeX? I just try to figure out how Kontext works, and so it would ne fine to have some texte every time available. (I can put some text from everywhere, but the blindtext package is much more comfortable.) What is \blindtext ? Hans |Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands | tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com http://www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl http://www.pragma-pod.nl If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Blindtext
Aha. Thank you. I unterstand that there is a solution, but I don’t unterstand it. Anyway: There are lots of more important things in ConTeXt I don’t understand yet – and may be never will unterstand. (For example how to use Fonts.) Thanks for your help and have a nice day! On 21 May 2014, at 11:29, Hans Hagen wrote: On 5/21/2014 11:08 AM, Werner Hintze wrote: It’ a command which inserts some nonsense text where I put it. I Latex I can chose how many paragraphs I want to have and can even setuo a whole document with chapters, sections etc. It’s fine for Testung Layouts and font settings. \usemodule[visual] \starttext some \fakewords{4}{8} here \fakelines{3}{5} \stoptext or \usemodule[ipsum] you can run : context --global m-ipsum.mkiv to get an idea about that one On 21 May 2014, at 11:04, Hans Hagen wrote: On 5/21/2014 10:59 AM, Werner Hintze wrote: And just another strange question: Is there any command like \blindtext (or \blinddocument) in LaTeX? I just try to figure out how Kontext works, and so it would ne fine to have some texte every time available. (I can put some text from everywhere, but the blindtext package is much more comfortable.) What is \blindtext ? Hans |Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands | tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com http://www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl http://www.pragma-pod.nl If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Blindtext
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Werner Hintze w.hin...@posteo.eu wrote: Aha. Thank you. I unterstand that there is a solution, but I don’t unterstand it. Anyway: There are lots of more important things in ConTeXt I don’t understand yet – and may be never will unterstand. (For example how to use Fonts.) Thanks for your help and have a nice day! In the m-ipsum.mkiv there is an example: \usemodule[ipsum] \starttext \ipsum[alternative=paragraph,before=\blank,after=\blank,language=la] \ipsum[alternative=lines,n=2,right=\par,before=\blank,after=\blank,language=la] \ipsum[alternative=lines,n=random,before=\blank,after=\blank,language=la] \ipsum[alternative=lines,before=\startitemize,after=\stopitemize,left=\startitem,right=\stopitem,language=la] \ipsum[alternative=words,left=(,right=),inbetween=\space,language=la] \page \defineipsum [ward] [file=ward, before=\blank, after=\blank] \defineipsum [ward:itemize] [ward] [alternative=lines, before={\startitemize[packed]}, after=\stopitemize, left=\startitem, right=\stopitem] \defineipsum [ward:title] [ward] [alternative=lines, n=random] \subject{\directipsum{ward:title}} \ipsum[ward] \ipsum[ward:itemize] \stoptext Try to compile that. Maybe it helps enough so you can use it as you want? /Mikael ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] stretching/expanding Greek characters
I am trying to typeset some compendia found in a medieval Greek manuscript and would like to stretch or expand several characters in my font. So far, I have mostly found information about stretching the inter-word spacing (tracking). There is, however, discussion in a few places of what I want in Arabic but I am at a loss to see how I might adapt this to Greek. If this is even possible, I would be grateful for any suggestions or pointers. My Greek font, defined as a fallback, is IFAO Grec Unicode (regular only). Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] ConTeXt mkiv and rsfs fonts
Hi all, It seems that the rsfs fonts (Ralph Smith’s Formal Script fonts) do not work: the procedure explained at the page http://wiki.contextgarden.net/rsfs works fine with mkii, but not in mkiv. Is it possible to use the capabilities of simplefonts, which are now included in mkiv, to use this script font in place of the usual \cal when using LM fonts (or even Palatino)? Thanks in advance for any insight. Best regards: OK ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Setting the style and conversion of the reference numbers for the \in command
I would like to change the style and conversion of reference numbers for the \in{myprefix}{mysuffix}[mylabel] command. Is there a \setupreference[numberstyle=, numberconversion=] command to do that? ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt mkiv and rsfs fonts
Am 21.05.2014 um 14:15 schrieb Otared Kavian ota...@gmail.com: Hi all, It seems that the rsfs fonts (Ralph Smith’s Formal Script fonts) do not work: the procedure explained at the page http://wiki.contextgarden.net/rsfs works fine with mkii, but not in mkiv. Is it possible to use the capabilities of simplefonts, which are now included in mkiv, to use this script font in place of the usual \cal when using LM fonts (or even Palatino)? No, simplefonts won’t help you because the fallback mechanism for math works only with another opentype math font and truetype/opentype text fonts. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt mkiv and rsfs fonts
On 21 May 2014, at 15:55, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote: […] No, simplefonts won’t help you because the fallback mechanism for math works only with another opentype math font and truetype/opentype text fonts. Thanks for the answer. Is there another script font for LM, or for Palatino, which looks a little bit more readable than \cal in those fonts, and which can be used with the simplefonts mechanism? Best regards: OK___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Metapost and Metafun
Hi, As PSTricks (which I prefer) is not yet well integrated, I decided to learn Metapost starting with a simple code. \starttext \startMPcode numeric xmin, xmax, ymin, ymax; xmin := -2.5; xmax := 2.5; ymax :=2.5 ;ymin:=-2.5; u := 2cm; vardef f(expr x) = -x*x+1 enddef; xinc := 0.001; path pts_f; pts_f := (xmin,f(xmin))*u for x=xmin+xinc step xinc until xmax+xinc: .. (x,f(x))*u endfor; path axe_x,axe_y; path screen; screen=(xmin,ymin)*u--(xmax,ymin)*u--(xmax,ymax)*u--(xmin,ymax)*u--cycle; axe_x = (xmin,0)*u -- (xmax,0)*u; axe_y = (0,ymin)*u -- (0,ymax)*u; drawarrow axe_x; drawarrow axe_y; draw pts_f withpen pencircle scaled 1; clip currentpicture to screen; \stopMPcode \stoptext Are there any routines with Metafun to improve this code? thank you, Fabrice ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] MathML in ConTeXt conforming to MathML3?
Does the MathML in ConText conforms to the MathML3 specification? (see http://www.w3.org/TR/MathML3/chapter5.html) I find that with \usemodule[mathml] (1) semanticsannotation encoding=application/x-texTeX-code/annotation/semantics does not typesets, but (2) semanticsannotation encoding=texTeX-code/annotation/semantics does. As I understand from the specification, (1) should have been correct, but does not processes the TeX and the attribute application/x-tex seems not to be recognized. Does ConTeXt-MathML deviates in this respect from the current standard? Or do I miss some important fact? Hans van der Meer ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt mkiv and rsfs fonts
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Otared Kavian ota...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the answer. Is there another script font for LM, or for Palatino, which looks a little bit more readable than \cal in those fonts, and which can be used with the simplefonts mechanism? Best regards: OK Personally, I think that the \cal from Latin Modern is very readable (thus, I don't know what you are after). I tried some others, maybe you like one of them (I hope that the line breaks in the email will be OK): \definefallbackfamily[mainface][math][TeX Gyre Termes Math][range={1D49C-1D4CF,212C,2130,2131,210B,2110,2112,2133,211B,212F,210A,2134}] %\definefallbackfamily[mainface][math][TeX Gyre Pagella Math][range={1D49C-1D4CF,212C,2130,2131,210B,2110,2112,2133,211B,212F,210A,2134}] %\definefallbackfamily[mainface][math][Asana Math][range={1D49C-1D4CF,212C,2130,2131,210B,2110,2112,2133,211B,212F,210A,2134}] \definefontfamily [mainface] [rm] [Latin Modern] \definefontfamily [mainface] [math] [Latin Modern Math] \setupbodyfont[mainface] \starttext ${\cal abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ}$ \stoptext /Mikael ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Metapost and Metafun
On 5/21/2014 7:55 PM, Fabrice Couvreur wrote: Hi, As PSTricks (which I prefer) is not yet well integrated, I decided to learn Metapost starting with a simple code. \starttext \startMPcode numeric xmin, xmax, ymin, ymax; xmin := -2.5; xmax := 2.5; ymax :=2.5 ;ymin:=-2.5; u := 2cm; vardef f(expr x) = -x*x+1 enddef; xinc := 0.001; path pts_f; pts_f := (xmin,f(xmin))*u for x=xmin+xinc step xinc until xmax+xinc: .. (x,f(x))*u endfor; path axe_x,axe_y; path screen; screen=(xmin,ymin)*u--(xmax,ymin)*u--(xmax,ymax)*u--(xmin,ymax)*u--cycle; axe_x = (xmin,0)*u -- (xmax,0)*u; axe_y = (0,ymin)*u -- (0,ymax)*u; drawarrow axe_x; drawarrow axe_y; draw pts_f withpen pencircle scaled 1; clip currentpicture to screen; \stopMPcode \stoptext Are there any routines with Metafun to improve this code? define 'improve' .. anyway: \starttext \startMPpage numeric xmin, xmax, ymin, ymax; xmin := -2.5; xmax := 2.5; ymax :=2.5 ;ymin:=-2.5; u := 2cm; pickup pencircle scaled 1pt ; drawarrow ((xmin,0) -- (xmax,0)) scaled u; drawarrow ((0,ymin) -- (0,ymax)) scaled u; draw tightfunction (x, -x*x+1, xmin, xmax, (xmax-xmin)/10) scaled u; setbounds currentpicture to boundingbox (((xmin,ymin) -- (xmax,ymax)) scaled u); \stopMPpage \stoptext I'm sure that Alan can tell you how to use the new built-in interpolators, their pros and cons in this case. Hans ps. A step of 0.001 is not needed here and gives a pretty large path. - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt mkiv and rsfs fonts
Hi Mikael, Thanks for your quick answer! Actually I used probably an inappropriate word when speaking about readability of the standard \cal in LM. Indeed they are readable, but for the particular case of ${\cal D}$, or ${\cal U}$ or ${\cal S}$, they do not correspond to the corresponding shape one finds in classical books of Analysis. On the other hand it does not contain lower case letters. In any case your solution below gives me exactly what I was looking for: begin example \definefallbackfamily[mainface][math][Asana Math][range={1D49C-1D4CF,212C,2130,2131,210B,2110,2112,2133,211B,212F,210A,2134}] \definefontfamily [mainface] [rm] [palatino] % or % \definefontfamily [mainface] [rm] [Latin Modern] \definefontfamily [mainface] [math] [Latin Modern Math] \setupbodyfont[mainface] \starttext ${\cal ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ}$ ${\cal abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz}$ The space of distributions on $\Omega$ is denoted by ${\cal D}'(\Omega)$, while ${\cal S}({\Bbb R}^n)$ is the space of Schwartz functions, and ${\cal S}'({\Bbb R}^n)$ is its dual. \stoptext end example Since other people may benefit from it, I would like to update the wiki on the matter. But actually I do not understand what does the « range » mean in the example [range={1D49C-1D4CF,212C,2130,2131,210B,2110,2112,2133,211B,212F,210A,2134}] Could you please give a brief explanation so that I don’t write nonsense on the wiki? Best regards: OK On 21 May 2014, at 20:10, Mikael P. Sundqvist mic...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Otared Kavian ota...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the answer. Is there another script font for LM, or for Palatino, which looks a little bit more readable than \cal in those fonts, and which can be used with the simplefonts mechanism? Best regards: OK Personally, I think that the \cal from Latin Modern is very readable (thus, I don't know what you are after). I tried some others, maybe you like one of them (I hope that the line breaks in the email will be OK): \definefallbackfamily[mainface][math][TeX Gyre Termes Math][range={1D49C-1D4CF,212C,2130,2131,210B,2110,2112,2133,211B,212F,210A,2134}] %\definefallbackfamily[mainface][math][TeX Gyre Pagella Math][range={1D49C-1D4CF,212C,2130,2131,210B,2110,2112,2133,211B,212F,210A,2134}] %\definefallbackfamily[mainface][math][Asana Math][range={1D49C-1D4CF,212C,2130,2131,210B,2110,2112,2133,211B,212F,210A,2134}] \definefontfamily [mainface] [rm] [Latin Modern] \definefontfamily [mainface] [math] [Latin Modern Math] \setupbodyfont[mainface] \starttext ${\cal abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ}$ \stoptext /Mikael ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt mkiv and rsfs fonts
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Otared Kavian ota...@gmail.com wrote: Since other people may benefit from it, I would like to update the wiki on the matter. But actually I do not understand what does the « range » mean in the example [range={1D49C-1D4CF,212C,2130,2131,210B,2110,2112,2133,211B,212F,210A,2134}] Could you please give a brief explanation so that I don’t write nonsense on the wiki? Best regards: OK I'm glad it helped. The range gives the unicode slots where these letters live. Hans: Maybe this is a stupid suggestion, but could it be possible to have \definefontfamilypreset [math:lowercasecalligraphic] as range={1D4B6-1D4CF,212F,210A,2134} and \definefontfamilypreset [math:uppercasecalligraphic] as range={1D49C-1D4B5,212C,2130,2131,210B,2110,2112,2133,211B} ? Otared, If what I write above makes sense, then the setup will be the more readable \definefallbackfamily[mainface][math][Asana Math][range={lowercasecalligraphic,uppercasecalligraphic}] \definefontfamily [mainface] [rm] [palatino] \definefontfamily [mainface] [math] [Latin Modern Math] \setupbodyfont[mainface] /Mikael ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt mkiv and rsfs fonts
On 5/21/2014 8:10 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Otared Kavian ota...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the answer. Is there another script font for LM, or for Palatino, which looks a little bit more readable than \cal in those fonts, and which can be used with the simplefonts mechanism? Best regards: OK Personally, I think that the \cal from Latin Modern is very readable (thus, I don't know what you are after). I tried some others, maybe you like one of them (I hope that the line breaks in the email will be OK): \definefallbackfamily[mainface][math][TeX Gyre Termes Math][range={1D49C-1D4CF,212C,2130,2131,210B,2110,2112,2133,211B,212F,210A,2134}] %\definefallbackfamily[mainface][math][TeX Gyre Pagella Math][range={1D49C-1D4CF,212C,2130,2131,210B,2110,2112,2133,211B,212F,210A,2134}] %\definefallbackfamily[mainface][math][Asana Math][range={1D49C-1D4CF,212C,2130,2131,210B,2110,2112,2133,211B,212F,210A,2134}] \definefontfamily [mainface] [rm] [Latin Modern] \definefontfamily [mainface] [math] [Latin Modern Math] \setupbodyfont[mainface] \starttext ${\cal abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ}$ \stoptext you can run s-math-repertoire.mkiv and compare shapes (you might want to comment some at the end) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt mkiv and rsfs fonts
Am 21.05.2014 um 21:10 schrieb Mikael P. Sundqvist mic...@gmail.com: On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Otared Kavian ota...@gmail.com wrote: Since other people may benefit from it, I would like to update the wiki on the matter. But actually I do not understand what does the « range » mean in the example [range={1D49C-1D4CF,212C,2130,2131,210B,2110,2112,2133,211B,212F,210A,2134}] Could you please give a brief explanation so that I don’t write nonsense on the wiki? Best regards: OK I'm glad it helped. The range gives the unicode slots where these letters live. Hans: Maybe this is a stupid suggestion, but could it be possible to have \definefontfamilypreset [math:lowercasecalligraphic] as range={1D4B6-1D4CF,212F,210A,2134} and \definefontfamilypreset [math:uppercasecalligraphic] as range={1D49C-1D4B5,212C,2130,2131,210B,2110,2112,2133,211B} ? Otared, If what I write above makes sense, then the setup will be the more readable \definefallbackfamily[mainface][math][Asana Math][range={lowercasecalligraphic,uppercasecalligraphic}] \definefontfamily [mainface] [rm] [palatino] \definefontfamily [mainface] [math] [Latin Modern Math] \setupbodyfont[mainface] This does already exist, take a look into math-act.lua. The presets are only needed when you want to use a text font as fallback because you have to set more values. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MathML in ConTeXt conforming to MathML3?
On 5/21/2014 8:09 PM, Meer, H. van der wrote: Does the MathML in ConText conforms to the MathML3 specification? (see http://www.w3.org/TR/MathML3/chapter5.html) I find that with \usemodule[mathml] (1) semanticsannotation encoding=application/x-texTeX-code/annotation/semantics does not typesets, but (2) semanticsannotation encoding=texTeX-code/annotation/semantics does. As I understand from the specification, (1) should have been correct, but does not processes the TeX and the attribute application/x-tex seems not to be recognized. Does ConTeXt-MathML deviates in this respect from the current standard? Or do I miss some important fact? I can add that encoding spec but you post to make a complete minimal example first. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt mkiv and rsfs fonts
Hi Mikael, I created a page on the wiki where it is explained how to change calligraphic fonts in math: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/math_calligraphic I’ll add more comments and correct things on that page each time I learn something new in this regard… Thanks again: OK On 21 May 2014, at 21:10, Mikael P. Sundqvist mic...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Otared Kavian ota...@gmail.com wrote: Since other people may benefit from it, I would like to update the wiki on the matter. But actually I do not understand what does the « range » mean in the example [range={1D49C-1D4CF,212C,2130,2131,210B,2110,2112,2133,211B,212F,210A,2134}] Could you please give a brief explanation so that I don’t write nonsense on the wiki? Best regards: OK I'm glad it helped. The range gives the unicode slots where these letters live. Hans: Maybe this is a stupid suggestion, but could it be possible to have \definefontfamilypreset [math:lowercasecalligraphic] as range={1D4B6-1D4CF,212F,210A,2134} and \definefontfamilypreset [math:uppercasecalligraphic] as range={1D49C-1D4B5,212C,2130,2131,210B,2110,2112,2133,211B} ? Otared, If what I write above makes sense, then the setup will be the more readable \definefallbackfamily[mainface][math][Asana Math][range={lowercasecalligraphic,uppercasecalligraphic}] \definefontfamily [mainface] [rm] [palatino] \definefontfamily [mainface] [math] [Latin Modern Math] \setupbodyfont[mainface] /Mikael ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MathML in ConTeXt conforming to MathML3?
Examples below, the two examples change between tex and application/x-tex in the annotation. Hans van der Meer On 21 May 2014, at 22:14, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nlmailto:pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 5/21/2014 8:09 PM, Meer, H. van der wrote: Does the MathML in ConText conforms to the MathML3 specification? (see http://www.w3.org/TR/MathML3/chapter5.html) I find that with \usemodule[mathml] (1) semanticsannotation encoding=application/x-texTeX-code/annotation/semantics does not typesets, but (2) semanticsannotation encoding=texTeX-code/annotation/semantics does. As I understand from the specification, (1) should have been correct, but does not processes the TeX and the attribute application/x-tex seems not to be recognized. Does ConTeXt-MathML deviates in this respect from the current standard? Or do I miss some important fact? I can add that encoding spec but you post to make a complete minimal example first. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.comhttp://www.pragma-ade.com/ | www.pragma-pod.nlhttp://www.pragma-pod.nl/ - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nlmailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ mathml-fail.pdf Description: mathml-fail.pdf mathml-fail.pdf Description: mathml-fail.pdf ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt mkiv and rsfs fonts
On 21 May 2014, at 21:54, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote: This does already exist, take a look into math-act.lua. Thanks Wolfgang: indeed one may use \definefallbackfamily[mainface][math][Asana Math][range={uppercasescript,lowercasescript}] so what Mikael suggested exists but it is named uppercasescript,lowercasescript. I changes the wiki page http://wiki.contextgarden.net/math_calligraphic accordingly. Best regards: OK The presets are only needed when you want to use a text font as fallback because you have to set more values. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Metapost and Metafun
Hi Hans, Thank you for the code that is cleaner and certainly less long! Fabrice PS : What do you mean by: define 'improve' .. anyway: A step of 0.001 is not needed here and gives a*pretty large path*. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt mkiv and rsfs fonts
On 5/21/2014 10:38 PM, Otared Kavian wrote: Hi Mikael, I created a page on the wiki where it is explained how to change calligraphic fonts in math: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/math_calligraphic I’ll add more comments and correct things on that page each time I learn something new in this regard… Thanks again: OK However this does not work properly in mkiv ... this suggests that it could work in mkiv but math in mkiv has a completely different implementation so it isn't even supposed to work maybe it's better to talk about mkiv as being the standard way and mkii being the 'old way' or so On 21 May 2014, at 21:10, Mikael P. Sundqvist mic...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Otared Kavian ota...@gmail.com wrote: Since other people may benefit from it, I would like to update the wiki on the matter. But actually I do not understand what does the « range » mean in the example [range={1D49C-1D4CF,212C,2130,2131,210B,2110,2112,2133,211B,212F,210A,2134}] Could you please give a brief explanation so that I don’t write nonsense on the wiki? Best regards: OK I'm glad it helped. The range gives the unicode slots where these letters live. Hans: Maybe this is a stupid suggestion, but could it be possible to have \definefontfamilypreset [math:lowercasecalligraphic] as range={1D4B6-1D4CF,212F,210A,2134} and \definefontfamilypreset [math:uppercasecalligraphic] as range={1D49C-1D4B5,212C,2130,2131,210B,2110,2112,2133,211B} ? Otared, If what I write above makes sense, then the setup will be the more readable \definefallbackfamily[mainface][math][Asana Math][range={lowercasecalligraphic,uppercasecalligraphic}] \definefontfamily [mainface] [rm] [palatino] \definefontfamily [mainface] [math] [Latin Modern Math] \setupbodyfont[mainface] /Mikael ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt mkiv and rsfs fonts
On 21 May 2014, at 21:39, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: you can run s-math-repertoire.mkiv and compare shapes (you might want to comment some at the end) Thanks for the hint! I did run that file and then I thought my Mac was going to die since mkiv kept running and running… After several minutes I obtained an amazing PDF file of 2166 pages where every glyph can be seen on a beautiful page. Great stuff! Best regards: OK ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt mkiv and rsfs fonts
On Wed, 21 May 2014, Otared Kavian wrote: Hi all, It seems that the rsfs fonts (Ralph Smith’s Formal Script fonts) do not work: the procedure explained at the page http://wiki.contextgarden.net/rsfs works fine with mkii, but not in mkiv. I do not have the time to look into this in detail. But hopefully the hint below will help you get started. If I understand you correctly, you are looking for a caligraphic font that is more script-y than the default \cal. From what I understand, such glyphs are present as stylistic alternatives in unicode math fonts. See for example this thread http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2010/050885.html (I remember that there was another thread along these lines, but I cannot find it right now). Aditya___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MathML in ConTeXt conforming to MathML3?
On 5/21/2014 10:43 PM, Meer, H. van der wrote: Examples below, the two examples change between tex and application/x-tex in the annotation. Hans van der Meer On 21 May 2014, at 22:14, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl mailto:pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 5/21/2014 8:09 PM, Meer, H. van der wrote: Does the MathML in ConText conforms to the MathML3 specification? (see http://www.w3.org/TR/MathML3/chapter5.html) I find that with \usemodule[mathml] (1)semanticsannotation encoding=application/x-texTeX-code/annotation/semantics does not typesets, but (2)semanticsannotation encoding=texTeX-code/annotation/semantics does. you can patch x-math.mkiv: \xmldoifelse {#1} {.[oneof(@encoding,'TeX','tex','application/x-tex','TEX','ConTeXt','context','CONTEXT','ctx')]} { as that seems to work okay As I understand from the specification, (1) should have been correct, but does not processes the TeX and the attribute application/x-tex seems not to be recognized. Does ConTeXt-MathML deviates in this respect from the current standard? Or do I miss some important fact? I can add that encoding spec but you post to make a complete minimal example first. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 |www.pragma-ade.com http://www.pragma-ade.com/ |www.pragma-pod.nl http://www.pragma-pod.nl/ - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt mkiv and rsfs fonts
On 21 May 2014, at 23:08, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 5/21/2014 10:38 PM, Otared Kavian wrote: Hi Mikael, I created a page on the wiki where it is explained how to change calligraphic fonts in math: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/math_calligraphic I’ll add more comments and correct things on that page each time I learn something new in this regard… Thanks again: OK However this does not work properly in mkiv ... this suggests that it could work in mkiv but math in mkiv has a completely different implementation so it isn't even supposed to work maybe it's better to talk about mkiv as being the standard way and mkii being the 'old way' or so You are right: I changed that page accordingly. All the best: OK ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt mkiv and rsfs fonts
On 5/21/2014 11:11 PM, Otared Kavian wrote: On 21 May 2014, at 21:39, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: you can run s-math-repertoire.mkiv and compare shapes (you might want to comment some at the end) Thanks for the hint! I did run that file and then I thought my Mac was going to die since mkiv kept running and running… After several minutes I obtained an amazing PDF file of 2166 pages where every glyph can be seen on a beautiful page. Great stuff! indeed it takes some time to finish (also because it's interactive) but you can gain some 15% by using luajittex Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt mkiv and rsfs fonts
On Wed, 21 May 2014, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2014, Otared Kavian wrote: Hi all, It seems that the rsfs fonts (Ralph Smith’s Formal Script fonts) do not work: the procedure explained at the page http://wiki.contextgarden.net/rsfs works fine with mkii, but not in mkiv. I do not have the time to look into this in detail. But hopefully the hint below will help you get started. If I understand you correctly, you are looking for a caligraphic font that is more script-y than the default \cal. From what I understand, such glyphs are present as stylistic alternatives in unicode math fonts. See for example this thread http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2010/050885.html (I remember that there was another thread along these lines, but I cannot find it right now). Found it: http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2011/061665.html Aditya___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MathML in ConTeXt conforming to MathML3?
Thanks. And added to some future beta? I would be obliged. Hans van der Meer you can patch x-math.mkiv: \xmldoifelse {#1} {.[oneof(@encoding,'TeX','tex','application/x-tex','TEX','ConTeXt','context','CONTEXT','ctx')]} { as that seems to work okay ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___