Re: [NTG-context] Dimension in mkiv definefont

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 02.07.2014 um 23:43 schrieb Uwe Koloska :

> Dear list,
> 
> the following runs fine in mkii (i.e. if compiled with 'texexec') but
> gives an error with mkiv (compiled with 'context'):
> 
> \showframe
> 
> \newdimen\Ssize \Ssize=18pt
> %\definefont[MyFont][Serif at 18pt]
> \definefont[MyFont][Serif at \Ssize]
> 
> \starttext
> \MyFont
> \input knuth
> \stoptext
> 
> I have just installed the current version of context-minimals:
> ConTeXt  ver: 2013.06.07 17:34 MKII  fmt: 2014.7.2  int: english/english
> 
> What ist the mkiv way to set a dimension that will be used in a number
> of \definefont commands?


Use the \definemeasure command to set the value and the \measure command to 
access it.

\definemeasure[Ssize][18pt]

\definefont[MyFont][Serif at \measure{Ssize}]

\starttext
\MyFont
\input knuth
\stoptext

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt epub workflow

[Andres Conrado]

I've been using a workflow to generate epub + PDF for several books so far,
and in my experience, using Markdown base files is very good: you can
include images, links, etc., and then you can use pandoc (
http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/) to generate both epub and context
source, also you can customize the templates used by pandoc to generate the
context source; that way you can handle the pdf layout; however, you must
remember that epub can't handle mathml; you must include equations as
images, if you have them, and you won't have any real presentational
features: epub is as simple as it can be. Like HTML in the early 90s. But
this way works for me.

Andrés Conrado Montoya
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt epub workflow

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Wed, 2 Jul 2014, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس   سماوي حامد wrote:


Dear gang,

I have an urgent project that needs three outputs: pdf, epub, and kindle. The 
formatting needs are pretty basic. In your experience:


What is the recommended, more efficient workflow for this sort of thing? 
Should I start with markdown and then generate context and epub (then convert 
epub=>kindle I presume)? Or does one context file with pdf and epub outputs 
work well?


If you are short on time and your formatting needs are basic, I would 
suggest that you start with markdown as your input format and use pandoc 
to convert it to epub and context. There are various tools to do epub to 
kindle conversion.


Markdown in a very primitive input format. For anything non-trivial 
(multiple types of floats, multiple types of emphasis, etc.) you have to 
resort to some sort of pre-processing of input.


Pandoc is the only tool that does Markdown to ConTeXt conversion. There 
are more tools for Markdown to LaTeX conversion. The ConTeXt markup 
generated by pandoc is not ideal (\bf, \em, etc instead of semantic 
markup); it is possible to change the output, but you need to learn how to 
program in Haskell.


You can start with ConTeXt and generate epub. However, ConTeXt generates 
XML+CSS rather than "pure" XHTML. Most browsers can handle XML+CSS, but 
most (all?) epub readers cannot. So, the output is not usable without some 
post-processing (this might have changed, I haven't tested ConTeXt epub in 
a year or so).


In the long run, I think that the "easiest" way to generate multiple 
output formats for non-trivial input text is to use XML as your input 
format.


Aditya

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt epub workflow

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 2014-07-03 um 03:12 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد 
:

> What is the recommended, more efficient workflow for this sort of thing? 
> Should I start with markdown and then generate context and epub (then convert 
> epub=>kindle I presume)? Or does one context file with pdf and epub outputs 
> work well? Many years ago I did some documents in ConTeXt with both print and 
> screen pdfs from a single source. Can we do the latter in ConTeXt now? Does 
> anyone have any examples?
> 

ConTeXt’s ePub output is not usable without conversion (to XHTML). Its XML 
output is even corrupt if you try with a project structure. You have to mark 
every structure like \start/\stopparagraph - very tedious!
Some other workflow is probably more efficient.

That said, I recently completed an ePub from a ConTeXt source, but I can’t 
recommend it, there was a lot of manual tweaking involved.


Greetlings, Hraban
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http://wiki.contextgarden.net
https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer)

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[NTG-context] Dimension in mkiv definefont

[Uwe Koloska]

Dear list,

the following runs fine in mkii (i.e. if compiled with 'texexec') but
gives an error with mkiv (compiled with 'context'):

\showframe

\newdimen\Ssize \Ssize=18pt
%\definefont[MyFont][Serif at 18pt]
\definefont[MyFont][Serif at \Ssize]

\starttext
\MyFont
\input knuth
\stoptext

I have just installed the current version of context-minimals:
ConTeXt  ver: 2013.06.07 17:34 MKII  fmt: 2014.7.2  int: english/english

What ist the mkiv way to set a dimension that will be used in a number
of \definefont commands?

Thank you!
Uwe
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Re: [NTG-context] How to create a PDF/A file with mkii?

[luigi scarso]

On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 10:54 PM, Otared Kavian  wrote:

> Hi Luigi,
>
> I did a test with mkiv (see the tex file attached), and then tested the
> resulting pdf file on the site you mentioned,
>
> http://www.pdf-tools.com/pdf/validate-pdfa-online.aspx
>
> Unfortunately it says that the PDF produced by mkiv is not conform:
>
> test-PDF-A-1b.pdf does not conform to PDF/A.
>
> Validating file "test-PDF-A-1b.pdf" for conformance level pdfa-1a
> Invalid content of XMP packet header attribute 'id':
> 'dtlnfbrryjnvabnrajbkrpyw'.
> dc:description :: Wrong value type. Expected type 'lang alt'.
> The XMP property 'pdfaid:conformance' has the invalid value 'B'. Required
> is 'A'.
> The key MarkInfo is required but missing.
> A device-specific color space (DeviceGray) without an appropriate output
> intent is used.
> The document does not conform to the requested standard.
> The document contains device-specific color spaces.
> The document's meta data is either missing or inconsistent or corrupt.
> The document doesn't provide appropriate logical structure information.
> Done.
>
> So, I don’t know how to solve the issue of creating a PDF/A.
>
> I'm looking into it now.
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt epub workflow

[Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد]

On Wed, 02 Jul 2014 15:12:10 -0600, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس   سماوي حامد  
 wrote:


What is the recommended, more efficient workflow for this sort of thing?  
Should I start with markdown and then generate context and epub (then  
convert epub=>kindle I presume)? Or does one context file with pdf and  
epub outputs work well? Many years ago I did some documents in ConTeXt  
with both print and screen pdfs from a single source. Can we do the  
latter in ConTeXt now?



Er, Can we do the *former* in ConTeXt? Viz., generate both pdf and epub  
from a single source.


Best wishes
Idris
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Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
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[NTG-context] ConTeXt epub workflow

[Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد]

Dear gang,

I have an urgent project that needs three outputs: pdf, epub, and kindle.  
The formatting needs are pretty basic. In your experience:


What is the recommended, more efficient workflow for this sort of thing?  
Should I start with markdown and then generate context and epub (then  
convert epub=>kindle I presume)? Or does one context file with pdf and  
epub outputs work well? Many years ago I did some documents in ConTeXt  
with both print and screen pdfs from a single source. Can we do the latter  
in ConTeXt now? Does anyone have any examples?


According to

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/epub

There is no support for graphics in ConTeXt epub output. Are there  
workarounds?


In any case, all advice for an efficient workflow for this project will be  
greatly appreciated!


Best wishes
Idris
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Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
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Re: [NTG-context] How to create a PDF/A file with mkii?

[Otared Kavian]

Hi Luigi,

I did a test with mkiv (see the tex file attached), and then tested the 
resulting pdf file on the site you mentioned,

http://www.pdf-tools.com/pdf/validate-pdfa-online.aspx

Unfortunately it says that the PDF produced by mkiv is not conform:

test-PDF-A-1b.pdf does not conform to PDF/A.

Validating file "test-PDF-A-1b.pdf" for conformance level pdfa-1a
Invalid content of XMP packet header attribute 'id': 'dtlnfbrryjnvabnrajbkrpyw'.
dc:description :: Wrong value type. Expected type 'lang alt'.
The XMP property 'pdfaid:conformance' has the invalid value 'B'. Required is 
'A'.
The key MarkInfo is required but missing.
A device-specific color space (DeviceGray) without an appropriate output intent 
is used.
The document does not conform to the requested standard.
The document contains device-specific color spaces.
The document's meta data is either missing or inconsistent or corrupt.
The document doesn't provide appropriate logical structure information.
Done.

So, I don’t know how to solve the issue of creating a PDF/A.

Thanks for any hint.
Best regards: OK


test-PDF-A-1b.tex
Description: Binary data


On 02 Jul 2014, at 17:35, luigi scarso  wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Otared Kavian  wrote:
> Thanks Luigi!
> 
> It turns out that with some slight modifications I could typeset the 
> mentioned project with mkiv. 
> Then after having added the following from your article:
> 
> %% For PDF/A
> \setupbackend[
> format={pdf/a-1a:2005},
> profile={default_cmyk.icc,
>  default_rgb.icc,default_gray.icc},
> intent={%
> ISO coated v2 300\letterpercent\space (ECI)}
> ]
> %% Tagged PDF
> %% method=auto ==> default tags by Adobe
> \setupstructure[state=start,method=auto]
> 
> I could get a PDF which looks fine: but now I have to make sure that it is 
> PDF/A compliant.
> Right now I don’t hav etime to check this, but in any case you gave me good 
> hope… Thanks!
> The problem is  the pdf/a validator ... it's better to use that one the 
> counterpart .
> An important one  is the preflight of  acrobat professional. If it says that 
> it's ok , then "it's hard to assert that it's not ok"  .
> Also this one maybe can help:
> http://www.pdf-tools.com/pdf/validate-pdfa-online.aspx
> but privacy can be an issue.
> 
> Imho, a school (or whatever educational structure)  that require a pdf/a 
> should also offer a service to validate a pdf, and a report if validation 
> fails.
> 
> -- 
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Re: [NTG-context] smallcaps with features in simplefont

[David Wooten]

Thank you Wolfgang, it’s all coming together.

On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:49 PM, Wolfgang Schuster  
wrote:

> 
> Am 01.07.2014 um 23:11 schrieb David Wooten :
> 
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> I’ve been trying to work through a new font scheme using simplefonts, e.g. 
>> in simple form something like this:
>> 
>> \definefontfeature[main][protrusion=quality,expansion=quality,onums=yes]
>> \definefontfamily[mainface][rm][Adobe Jenson Pro][features=main]
>> \setupalign[hanging,hz]
>> \setupbodyfont[mainface,13pt]
>> 
>> In this setup, I do get protrusion & expansion in the text, —except when I 
>> switch to {\sc small caps.}
> 
> In your setup you disable ligatures etc., to keep them change the first two 
> lines to
> 
> \definefontfeature[main][default][protrusion=quality,expansion=quality,onums=yes]
> \definefontfamily[mainface][rm][Adobe Jenson Pro][features=main]
> 
> or
> 
> \definefontfeature[main][protrusion=quality,expansion=quality,onums=yes]
> \definefontfamily[mainface][rm][Adobe Jenson Pro][features={default,main}]
> 
>> Do I need to declare the caps in some other way?
> 
> Smallcaps use the regular where the “smallcaps” features are applied, to use 
> also your “main” features you have to use this setup:
> 
> \definefontfamily[mainface][rm][Adobe Jenson 
> Pro][features={default,main},sc=features:{default,main,smallcaps}]
> 
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Re: [NTG-context] How to create a PDF/A file with mkii?

[luigi scarso]

On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Otared Kavian  wrote:

> Thanks Luigi!
>
> It turns out that with some slight modifications I could typeset the
> mentioned project with mkiv.
> Then after having added the following from your article:
>
> %% For PDF/A
> \setupbackend[
> format={pdf/a-1a:2005},
> profile={default_cmyk.icc,
>  default_rgb.icc,default_gray.icc},
> intent={%
> ISO coated v2 300\letterpercent\space (ECI)}
> ]
> %% Tagged PDF
> %% method=auto ==> default tags by Adobe
> \setupstructure[state=start,method=auto]
>
> I could get a PDF which looks fine: but now I have to make sure that it is
> PDF/A compliant.
> Right now I don’t hav etime to check this, but in any case you gave me
> good hope… Thanks!
>
The problem is  the pdf/a validator ... it's better to use that one the
counterpart .
An important one  is the preflight of  acrobat professional. If it says
that it's ok , then "it's hard to assert that it's not ok"  .
Also this one maybe can help:
http://www.pdf-tools.com/pdf/validate-pdfa-online.aspx
but privacy can be an issue.

Imho, a school (or whatever educational structure)  that require a pdf/a
should also offer a service to validate a pdf, and a report if validation
fails.

-- 
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Re: [NTG-context] How to create a PDF/A file with mkii?

[Otared Kavian]

Thanks Luigi!

It turns out that with some slight modifications I could typeset the mentioned 
project with mkiv. 
Then after having added the following from your article:

%% For PDF/A
\setupbackend[
format={pdf/a-1a:2005},
profile={default_cmyk.icc,
 default_rgb.icc,default_gray.icc},
intent={%
ISO coated v2 300\letterpercent\space (ECI)}
]
%% Tagged PDF
%% method=auto ==> default tags by Adobe
\setupstructure[state=start,method=auto]

I could get a PDF which looks fine: but now I have to make sure that it is 
PDF/A compliant.
Right now I don’t hav etime to check this, but in any case you gave me good 
hope… Thanks!

Best regards: OK

On 02 Jul 2014, at 17:05, luigi scarso  wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Otared Kavian  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Luigi for the hint to that paper.
> Unfortuantely the project has been done with mkii… that’s why I would like to 
> know if it’s possible to produce a PDF/A compliant file with ConTeXt mkii.
> By the way, is there an easy way to check whether a PDF file is PDF/A 
> compliant?
> 
> Best regards: OK
> afaik there is only and experimental extension of pdftex that used with latex 
> can make pdf/a-1a (tagged pdf) -- but i'm not sure. 
> 
> But pdf/a-1b are different (not tagged) so you can use ghostscript, even if 
> it's not easy.
> Here an article by C: Beccari for xelatex
> http://www.guitex.org/home/images/ArsTeXnica/AT012/xelatex-pdfa.pdf
> 
> See also  this for gs
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1659147/how-to-use-ghostscript-to-convert-pdf-to-pdf-a-or-pdf-x
> 
> -- 
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Re: [NTG-context] How to create a PDF/A file with mkii?

[luigi scarso]

On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Otared Kavian  wrote:

>
> Thanks Luigi for the hint to that paper.
> Unfortuantely the project has been done with mkii… that’s why I would like
> to know if it’s possible to produce a PDF/A compliant file with ConTeXt
> mkii.
> By the way, is there an easy way to check whether a PDF file is PDF/A
> compliant?
>
> Best regards: OK
>
afaik there is only and experimental extension of pdftex that used with
latex can make pdf/a-1a (tagged pdf) -- but i'm not sure.

But pdf/a-1b are different (not tagged) so you can use ghostscript, even if
it's not easy.
Here an article by C: Beccari for xelatex
http://www.guitex.org/home/images/ArsTeXnica/AT012/xelatex-pdfa.pdf

See also  this for gs
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1659147/how-to-use-ghostscript-to-convert-pdf-to-pdf-a-or-pdf-x

-- 
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Re: [NTG-context] How to create a PDF/A file with mkii?

[Otared Kavian]

On 02 Jul 2014, at 16:46, luigi scarso  wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Otared Kavian  wrote:
> Dear List members,
> 
> Does anyone know how to create a PDF/A file (where A stands for Archive) in 
> mkii? In a thesis project which has to be uploaded on an archiving site it is 
> required that the fonts should be imbedded into the PDF file and be 
> compatible with the PDF/A standard.
> 
> How can this be done without having access to a professional software from 
> Adobe or other companies?
> 
> Many thanks in advance: OK
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> hm mkii ?
> with mkiv you can have pdf/a-1a
> http://www.ntg.nl/maps/41/08.pdf

Thanks Luigi for the hint to that paper.
Unfortuantely the project has been done with mkii… that’s why I would like to 
know if it’s possible to produce a PDF/A compliant file with ConTeXt mkii.
By the way, is there an easy way to check whether a PDF file is PDF/A compliant?

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Re: [NTG-context] How to create a PDF/A file with mkii?

[luigi scarso]

On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Otared Kavian  wrote:

> Dear List members,
>
> Does anyone know how to create a PDF/A file (where A stands for Archive)
> in mkii? In a thesis project which has to be uploaded on an archiving site
> it is required that the fonts should be imbedded into the PDF file and be
> compatible with the PDF/A standard.
>
> How can this be done without having access to a professional software from
> Adobe or other companies?
>
> Many thanks in advance: OK
>
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hm mkii ?
with mkiv you can have pdf/a-1a
http://www.ntg.nl/maps/41/08.pdf
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[NTG-context] How to create a PDF/A file with mkii?

[Otared Kavian]

Dear List members,

Does anyone know how to create a PDF/A file (where A stands for Archive) in 
mkii? In a thesis project which has to be uploaded on an archiving site it is 
required that the fonts should be imbedded into the PDF file and be compatible 
with the PDF/A standard.

How can this be done without having access to a professional software from 
Adobe or other companies?

Many thanks in advance: OK
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Re: [NTG-context] context works, contextjit fails with Junicode

[Andres Conrado]

Junicode is a font for medievalists, handles a lot things needed for
analizing old texts. It can handle greek, gothic script, runes, a lot of
marks... Is a very nice font for scholars.
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Re: [NTG-context] Protrusion with compound word hyphenation (||)

[Rik Kabel]

On 2014-07-02 00:52, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:


Am 02.07.2014 um 03:16 schrieb Rik Kabel >:


I notice that with compound words broken across lines protrusion does 
not get applied. This looks pretty rough when there are normal 
hyphenated words in the same paragraph.


WE (exaggerated, but demonstrates the point):

\setuppapersize[monarch]
\definefontfeature [default] [protrusion=quality]
\setupalign[hanging]
\setuptolerance[horizontal,strict]
\setuphyphenmark   [sign=small]
\showframe [text] [text]
\starttext
\dorecurse{21}{Multisyllabic||words||separated||by||hyphens. }
\stoptext

Is this expected behavior? Can it be changed?


Use a normal hyphen and the \setbreakpoints command.

\setuppapersize[monarch]
\definefontfeature [default] [default] [protrusion=quality]
\setupalign[hanging]
\setuptolerance[horizontal,strict]
\setbreakpoints[compound]
\showframe [text] [text]
\starttext
\dorecurse{21}{Multisyllabic-words-separated-by-hyphens. }
\stoptext

Wolfgang

Perfect, thank you Wolfgang. And it leaves the text much easier-to-read 
as well.


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Re: [NTG-context] indenting in enumerations in mkiv

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 01.07.2014 um 15:22 schrieb Sytse :

> Within the enumeration environment I want the first paragraph not to be 
> indented, whereas the second and following paragraphs should start with an 
> indent.
> 
> The example below works fine in mkii, but I would like to use mkiv in which 
> the first line is also indented.
> 
> Sytse
> --
> \defineenumeration[example][text=Example,indenting={yes,medium,next}]
> \starttext
> contextversion: 2013.05.28 00:36 
> 
> command: context proef.tex
> 
> \startexample 
> This first line is indented, but shouldn't. Runs ok under mkii.
> 
> This second line should be indented and is ok under both mkii and mkiv.
> \stopexample
> 
> \stoptext

This is a bug in the enumeration code where the indent setup is used before the 
title/head is placed
which is then handled as first paragraph.

To fix this the \indenting command has to be moved after the \directsetup line 
in strc-con.mkvi:

\unexpanded\setvalue{\??constructionstarthandler\v!construction}% this will be 
redone (reorganized) .. too much boxing
  {\dostarttagged\t!construction\currentconstruction
   ...
   \edef\p_strc_constructions_indenting{\constructionparameter\c!indenting}%
   \ifx\p_strc_constructions_indenting\empty \else
 \indenting[\p_strc_constructions_indenting]% \use...
   \fi
   ...
   \directsetup\p_strc_constructions_renderingsetup\relax
   %
   \dostoptagged % tag
   \dostarttagged\t!constructioncontent\empty
   \ignorespaces} % args not needed

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] context works, contextjit fails with Junicode

[Hans Hagen]

On 7/2/2014 3:11 AM, Rik wrote:

On 2014-07-01 20:45, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 7/2/2014 1:30 AM, Rik Kabel wrote:


As I said, the not-in-time engine has no problem with the file.


no problems here with luatex and luajittex and the sample code

Hans


Okay. I will look over my path settings and font libraries.

Thank you for checking. Sorry for the noise.

(but another issue is on the way)


It relates to a bug in the font (bogus lookup) and an (fundamental) 
incompatibility between lua and luajit ... the next beta has a fix fo 
such cases (also tested/checked by Akira).


Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] multiple xmlsetups in multiple files?

[Hans Hagen]

On 7/2/2014 8:12 AM, Mica Semrick wrote:

Hello list,

I've started making a stylesheet for a fairly large XML vocabulary. The
XML vocabulary is already divided into semantic chunks, so I'd like the
strucure of my ConTeXt file to match that structure.
When typesetting an XML document with the command context
--environment=stylesheet.tex myfile.xml, is it possible to:

(1) use the include or input command to include child tex files?

(2) in each child tex file have its own startxmlsetup command?


sure, just \input files or use \environment

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] Prevent hyphenation of the last word on a page

[H. Özoguz]

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context/45001/

Don’t know if luatex has brought any advance here…


Thanks Thomas, but \brokenpenalty seems to be simply ignored or 
overwritten, no effect.


See here a minexample:

\brokenpenalty 1
\starttext
\dorecurse{200}{Aprikosengeschmacksrichtung }
\stoptext

How to create a global command/rule to prevent hyphenation over two 
pages like in the example above?


Huseyin
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