Re: [NTG-context] Hash (Pound) Sign (#) in `\biburl'

2015-05-31 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 05/30/2015 11:04 AM, Alexander Shukaev wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I ran into the problem with `\biburl':
> 
> \biburl{http://computing.llnl.gov/tutorials/mpi_performance/#Protocols}
> [...]
> Do you have any suggestions on how to overcome this problem?  Thanks a lot.

Hi Alexander,

this may work:

\biburl{http://computing.llnl.gov/tutorials/mpi_performance/\letterhash
Protocols}

If it doesn’t work, please send a minimal sample. I have never used
bibliographies in ConTeXt.


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Re: [NTG-context] bug in latest beta?

2015-05-31 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 05/28/2015 04:59 PM, Otared Kavian wrote:
> Hi Pablo,
> 
> I tested your sample with
> 
>   ConTeXt ver: 2014.05.21 22:04 MKIV beta fmt: 2015.3.31 int: english/english
> 
> (which is from TeXLIve 2014) and also with
> 
>   ConTeXt ver: 2015.05.21 13:39 MKIV beta fmt: 2015.5.21 int: english/english
> 
> and I get exactly the same result, with the last two line of page 1
> pushed to the second page.
> 
> However with mmkii, thta is
> 
>   ConTeXt ver: 2013.06.07 17:34 MKII fmt: 2015.5.21 int: english/english
> 
> the penalties act correctly and page one has all the lines expected,
> while page 2 begins with a new section.
> 
> Actually I hav enoticed that recent versions of mkiv create strange page
> breaks in some of documents containing maths, but up to now I have not
> succeeded to reproduce this bad behavior in a short (and minimal) example.

Many thanks for your testing, Otared.

It seems that different MkIV betas may give different results.

I noticed it by compiling the same source with different MkIV betas.

Many thanks for your help,


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Re: [NTG-context] bug in latest beta?

2015-05-31 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 05/28/2015 07:10 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 5/27/2015 10:38 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>> [...]
>> Compiling it with beta from 2015.03.25 22:13, page break is fine.
>>
>> But with latest beta from 2015.05.24 12:42 (or even with beta from
>> 2015.05.15 11:42 includes a wrong page break. The setups for widow and
>> orphan lines move the two last lines to the next page.
>>
>> Could anyone confirm this bug?
> 
> i wonder if it's a bug or just tex's decision ... you can use
> 
> \showmakeup[penalty]
> 
> and see what penalties get injected
> 
> are the linebreaks identical, i.e. same hyphenation?

Many thanks for your reply, Hans.

Hyphenation is the same in both documents.

> btw, brokenpenalty 1 gives a different result

Page break is wrong when any of the three values (brokenpenalty,
widowpenalty or clubpenalty) is 0 or above .

I replacing \subsection with \section gives the right page break:

\showframe\showgrid
\setuplayout[setups=*lessstrict]
\startsetups[*lessstrict]
\setup[reset]
\widowpenalty=1
\clubpenalty=1
\brokenpenalty=0
\stopsetups
\setupbodyfont[pagella, 12.6pt]
\starttext
\chapter{Quotes}
\section{Zapf}
\dorecurse{4}{\input zapf\par}
\section{Knuth}
\input knuth
\stoptext

Why does \subsection cause a different page break than \section?

Many thanks for your help,


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Re: [NTG-context] bug in latest beta?

2015-05-31 Thread Hans Hagen

On 5/31/2015 1:56 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:

On 05/28/2015 07:10 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 5/27/2015 10:38 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:

[...]
Compiling it with beta from 2015.03.25 22:13, page break is fine.

But with latest beta from 2015.05.24 12:42 (or even with beta from
2015.05.15 11:42 includes a wrong page break. The setups for widow and
orphan lines move the two last lines to the next page.

Could anyone confirm this bug?


i wonder if it's a bug or just tex's decision ... you can use

\showmakeup[penalty]

and see what penalties get injected

are the linebreaks identical, i.e. same hyphenation?


Many thanks for your reply, Hans.

Hyphenation is the same in both documents.


btw, brokenpenalty 1 gives a different result


Page break is wrong when any of the three values (brokenpenalty,
widowpenalty or clubpenalty) is 0 or above .

I replacing \subsection with \section gives the right page break:

 \showframe\showgrid
 \setuplayout[setups=*lessstrict]
 \startsetups[*lessstrict]
 \setup[reset]
 \widowpenalty=1
 \clubpenalty=1
 \brokenpenalty=0
 \stopsetups
 \setupbodyfont[pagella, 12.6pt]
 \starttext
 \chapter{Quotes}
 \section{Zapf}
 \dorecurse{4}{\input zapf\par}
 \section{Knuth}
 \input knuth
 \stoptext

Why does \subsection cause a different page break than \section?


because there are penalties related to (sub)sections in a way that keeps 
them together but at the same time still permits breaks in case of too 
many successive ones .. and penalties determine the way the page is broken


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[NTG-context] ConTeXt not defending the right margin

2015-05-31 Thread henman

I am using "mtxrun  | ConTeXt TDS Runner Tool 1.31"

In real life I get documents that have long blank lines which are a 
sequence of underscore characters.   I have to transcribe these into 
ConTeXt file.  But when compiled into a pdf file the long resulting rule 
line infringes on the right boundary.


What can I do, to get ConTeXt to maintain the boundary and display the 
lines as intended?


Thanks.

 Minimal Example
\starttext

DATE: , 20__, at 
__, 
 city___ \ state --\ country.


1. Whereas 
, as the 
artist(s) and    the patrons.


\stoptext






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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt not defending the right margin

2015-05-31 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 06/01/2015 08:11 AM, henman wrote:
> I am using "mtxrun  | ConTeXt TDS Runner Tool 1.31"
> 
> In real life I get documents that have long blank lines which are a 
> sequence of underscore characters.   I have to transcribe these into 
> ConTeXt file.  But when compiled into a pdf file the long resulting rule 
> line infringes on the right boundary.
> 
> What can I do, to get ConTeXt to maintain the boundary and display the 
> lines as intended?

You have to insert \hskip0pt between two underscores (otherwise ConTeXt
cannot know where to break the line).

Your sample should read:

\starttext

DATE:
_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_,
20_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_, at
_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt,
_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_
city_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_
\ state --\ country.

1. Whereas
_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_,
as the
artist(s) and
_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_\hskip0pt_
 the patrons.

\stoptext

I hope it helps,


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Re: [NTG-context] bug in latest beta?

2015-05-31 Thread Otared Kavian
Hi Pablo,

Indeed the document I was talking about has been typeset with various versions 
of mkiv, but now I observe that sometimes the pagebreaks are made in a very 
strange way. Since I can’t make a minimal example, I put on the following link 
an excerpt of the PDF document where the bad pagebreaks can be seen: 

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4316076/bad-pagebreak.pdf

(Please see pages 19 and 32). It seems that this happens, sometimes, but as far 
as I can say from my experiments the bad pagebreak happens always before a « 
proclaim » which is defined as follows:

\defineenumeration[proclaim]
[text=,
before={\blank\startbackground[frame=off,leftframe=on,
rulethickness=2pt,framecolor=darkred,
background=color,
backgroundcolor=screen]},
after={\stopbackground\blank},
style=slanted,
title=yes,
titleleft=,
titleright={.},
alternative=hanging,
width=fit,
right={~},
way=bysection,
prefix=yes,
prefixsegments={chapter:section}]

Actually I found a workaround for this by changing the above definition into:

\defineenumeration[proclaim]
[text=,
before={\blank\startmarginrule[rulethickness=1pt,rulecolor=darkred]},
after={\stopmarginrule},
style=slanted,
title=yes,
titleleft=,
titleright={.},
alternative=hanging,
width=fit,
right={~},
way=bysection,
prefix=yes,
prefixsegments={chapter:section}]

However it would be better to understand why the first definition does not work 
properly, in a rather random way.

Best regards: OK


> On 01 Jun 2015, at 00:16, Hans Hagen  wrote:
> 
> On 5/31/2015 1:56 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>> On 05/28/2015 07:10 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>> On 5/27/2015 10:38 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
 [...]
 Compiling it with beta from 2015.03.25 22:13, page break is fine.
 
 But with latest beta from 2015.05.24 12:42 (or even with beta from
 2015.05.15 11:42 includes a wrong page break. The setups for widow and
 orphan lines move the two last lines to the next page.
 
 Could anyone confirm this bug?
>>> 
>>> i wonder if it's a bug or just tex's decision ... you can use
>>> 
>>> \showmakeup[penalty]
>>> 
>>> and see what penalties get injected
>>> 
>>> are the linebreaks identical, i.e. same hyphenation?
>> 
>> Many thanks for your reply, Hans.
>> 
>> Hyphenation is the same in both documents.
>> 
>>> btw, brokenpenalty 1 gives a different result
>> 
>> Page break is wrong when any of the three values (brokenpenalty,
>> widowpenalty or clubpenalty) is 0 or above .
>> 
>> I replacing \subsection with \section gives the right page break:
>> 
>> \showframe\showgrid
>> \setuplayout[setups=*lessstrict]
>> \startsetups[*lessstrict]
>> \setup[reset]
>> \widowpenalty=1
>> \clubpenalty=1
>> \brokenpenalty=0
>> \stopsetups
>> \setupbodyfont[pagella, 12.6pt]
>> \starttext
>> \chapter{Quotes}
>> \section{Zapf}
>> \dorecurse{4}{\input zapf\par}
>> \section{Knuth}
>> \input knuth
>> \stoptext
>> 
>> Why does \subsection cause a different page break than \section?
> 
> because there are penalties related to (sub)sections in a way that keeps them 
> together but at the same time still permits breaks in case of too many 
> successive ones .. and penalties determine the way the page is broken
> 
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