Re: [NTG-context] Critical editions with ConTeXt
Dear Pablo,
Thank you very much for what you proposed — it did work indeed. I tried to
achieve the same at some length this afternoon. I think I understand what is
going on in the first macro, but wouldn’t have been able to arrive at the the
second one for \variant, or the counter (and still don’t fully understand it).
Thanks again.
Hans, Idris, Thomas, and others interested in critical editions: I wonder
whether this code — with the user-facing command \variant{#1}{#2} — might be
something that could become part of an eventual CritTeXt package.
With many thanks and all best wishes,
Talal
p.s. I had thought it better to add this on to the old thread, since the topic
was contiguous. Admittedly, I’m not sure what the proper etiquette for such
matters is.
> On 22 Jul 2015, at 21:19, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>
> On 07/22/2015 09:26 PM, Talal wrote:
>> [...]
>> I would like to be able to automate (through macros) the making of a
>> critical apparatus' note. This is for two reasons. First, the body text
>> and the lemma in the note below should be identical: as such, they
>> ideally not have to be typed twice, as it introduces the possibility of
>> error. Furthermore, if one manually writes out \linenote{Lemma ]
>> Comment} in the body of the text, you forego the separation of content
>> and style, since the separator ] has been hardcoded in.
>
> Hi Talal,
>
> I wonder whether creating a new thread should be the right thing to do.
> The original thread is three years old.
>
> Anyway, this may help you (it isn’t my original code):
>
>\unexpanded\def\doVariant#1#2#3%
> {\startlinenote[#1]{#2] #3}#2\stoplinenote[#1]}
>
>\newcounter\countvariants
>\unexpanded\def\variant
> {\doglobal\increment\countvariants
>\normalexpanded{\doVariant{Varia:\countvariants}}}
>
>\starttext
>
>\startlinenumbering
>
>\dorecurse{20}{\variant{donald e knuth}{herman zapf} }
>
>\stoplinenumbering
>
>\stoptext
>
> BTW, it has a “minor issue”: hyphenation doesn’t work in the body text
> It works fine in the notes. I reported this, but I’m afraid it hasn’t
> been solved.
>
> Just in case it helps,
>
>
> Pablo
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Re: [NTG-context] Critical editions with ConTeXt
On 07/22/2015 09:26 PM, Talal wrote:
> [...]
> I would like to be able to automate (through macros) the making of a
> critical apparatus' note. This is for two reasons. First, the body text
> and the lemma in the note below should be identical: as such, they
> ideally not have to be typed twice, as it introduces the possibility of
> error. Furthermore, if one manually writes out \linenote{Lemma ]
> Comment} in the body of the text, you forego the separation of content
> and style, since the separator ] has been hardcoded in.
Hi Talal,
I wonder whether creating a new thread should be the right thing to do.
The original thread is three years old.
Anyway, this may help you (it isn’t my original code):
\unexpanded\def\doVariant#1#2#3%
{\startlinenote[#1]{#2] #3}#2\stoplinenote[#1]}
\newcounter\countvariants
\unexpanded\def\variant
{\doglobal\increment\countvariants
\normalexpanded{\doVariant{Varia:\countvariants}}}
\starttext
\startlinenumbering
\dorecurse{20}{\variant{donald e knuth}{herman zapf} }
\stoplinenumbering
\stoptext
BTW, it has a “minor issue”: hyphenation doesn’t work in the body text
It works fine in the notes. I reported this, but I’m afraid it hasn’t
been solved.
Just in case it helps,
Pablo
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Re: [NTG-context] Critical editions with ConTeXt
Hans Hagen wxs.nl> writes:
> > Actually ranges have always been supported ...
> > Maybe I should add those commands.
> > Hans
Picking up on an old thread, again.
The document below lays out the three basic parts of a critical
apparatus of a critical edition of a text: (1) the body text; (2) the
lemma (which is the part of the body text being commented upon); and
(3) the comment on the lemma.
I would like to be able to automate (through macros) the making of a
critical apparatus' note. This is for two reasons. First, the body text
and the lemma in the note below should be identical: as such, they
ideally not have to be typed twice, as it introduces the possibility of
error. Furthermore, if one manually writes out \linenote{Lemma ]
Comment} in the body of the text, you forego the separation of content
and style, since the separator ] has been hardcoded in.
This is my attempt so far:
- - -
\setuplinenumbering[% style=\tfxx,referencing=on, step=1,
location=outer, method=page,align=left, distance=1em,
width=0.4em,]
\definelinenote[linenote][% paragraph=yes, frame=on,framecolor=red,
]% \setupnotation[linenote][% alternative=serried,width=broad,
distance=.5em, display=yes,]%
\def\variant#1#2{{#1}\linenote{{#1}] {#2}}}
\def\lemma{This is the LEMMA.} \def\comment{This is my COMMENT on the
lemma.} \def\bodytext{This is the BODY TEXT. It should be identical to
the lemma in the note: their being identical should be automated so as
to minimise errors and reduce the amount of typing.}
%% DOCUMENT
\starttext
\startlinenumbering
% EX1 \section{EX1} \variant{Lemma lemma lemma lemma lemma lemma lemma
lemma lemma lemma lemma lemma lemma} {Comment comment comment.}.\blank
% EX2 \section{EX2} \section{With start and stop} \startlinenote[one]
{\lemma ] \comment} \bodytext \stoplinenote[one]
\stoplinenumbering
\stoptext
- - -
In the above, I have been able to successfully do "automate" this using
the macro command "variant". With this approach, however, the line
number is only that of the last word in the lemma.
To get line numbers that span more than one line, Hans instructed us to
use \startlinenote[x]...\stoplinenote[x]. However, I have not been able
to figure out how to "automate" the making of the lemma and comment
like was done in EX1 in such a stopstart block. I assume that the
solution lies in using \startsetups…\stopsetups + \definestartstop.
However, despite many attempts, I haven't been able to concoct the
right set of macros within that to get it working.
I'd be grateful for any help that could be offered.
Many thanks, Talal
p.s. Hans: When using \startlinenote…\stoplinenote, the addition of
some unique name (e.g. \startlinenote[one]) is obviously necessary. Is
there any way to automate this as well, as part of some sets of
macros/commands?
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Re: [NTG-context] reverse page order and reverse page numbering in one part of a book
On 07/22/2015 03:47 PM, Alan BRASLAU wrote: There are several different issues. Synchronization can be line-by-line, paragraph-by-paragraph, sectionblock-by-sectionblock... or, as is the case with the posting of this thread, part-by-part (i.e. halves). The different "products" in multiple languages might only be "synchronized" by structure, not by rendering at all. Yes, and for good measure, add a couple of footnotes, floats, margin inserts, and let the fun begin. I think we'd need a couple of duplicates of Hans to take care of all this... Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] issue with mailbox.org
On 07/21/2015 09:17 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > >> On 20 Jul 2015, at 19:09, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: >> >> 82.165.159.42 > > That is mout-xforward.gmx.net, which is on the spamhaus list at the > moment. Not much we can do about it, it is not our server. I would > have tried to contact gmx.net, but apparently you have to phone in to > an 0900 number. Sorry, not wasting my money on that (in fact the 0900 > number’s existence made me loose interest in the problem altogether). > > Spamhaus record, in case someone else wants to contact gmx.net: > > http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/query/SBL229649 Many thanks for your reply, Taco. I think their customer service can be contacted by e-mail. Otherwise, I will have to find a new address to subscribe to this list. Many thanks for your help, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] fonts not found with newotf
On 07/20/2015 10:47 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: >> Pablo Rodriguez >> 20. Juli 2015 17:08 >> >> Many thanks for your fix, Hans. >> >> It works perfectly fine. The font was an improved conversion from a >> Type1 font I got from CTAN. > > Improved in which way? Wolfgang, at least, I added the space character (which is missing in the original font). I don’t remember if I included other improvements. Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] reverse page order and reverse page numbering in one part of a book
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 14:54:17 +0200 "Thomas A. Schmitz" wrote: > On 07/22/2015 02:45 PM, Alan BRASLAU wrote: > > The > > project/product/component mechanism can help somewhat. I also know > > that Thomas had written a streams module to handle the > > synchronization of texts. However, I am not so sure how to go about > > this in a real, full-fledged case with a complicated text. > > Correction: "Thomas had a streams module written (by Hans)." I used > it for a bilingual document for my course material, but in the end, > it turned out that using it for a "real" book would have been > extremely complex. In my field, there are numerous books with a > bilingual layout, but I guess they are all still handcrafted, i.e. > manual page breaks etc. I just shudder to think what would happen if > someone has to add three words on page 3 of such a book - they would > have to redo every single darn pagebreak? There are several different issues. Synchronization can be line-by-line, paragraph-by-paragraph, sectionblock-by-sectionblock... or, as is the case with the posting of this thread, part-by-part (i.e. halves). The different "products" in multiple languages might only be "synchronized" by structure, not by rendering at all. Maybe Mari (and others) have regular experience in managing multilingual documents and maintaining them under modification. And I bring up this issue under the present thread as managing left-to-right mixed with right-to-left text is a further complication that Idris (and others) address regularly. Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] reverse page order and reverse page numbering in one part of a book
On 07/22/2015 02:45 PM, Alan BRASLAU wrote: The project/product/component mechanism can help somewhat. I also know that Thomas had written a streams module to handle the synchronization of texts. However, I am not so sure how to go about this in a real, full-fledged case with a complicated text. Correction: "Thomas had a streams module written (by Hans)." I used it for a bilingual document for my course material, but in the end, it turned out that using it for a "real" book would have been extremely complex. In my field, there are numerous books with a bilingual layout, but I guess they are all still handcrafted, i.e. manual page breaks etc. I just shudder to think what would happen if someone has to add three words on page 3 of such a book - they would have to redo every single darn pagebreak? Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] reverse page order and reverse page numbering in one part of a book
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 05:58:04 -0600 Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote: > That said: You could typeset both books as distinct products or > components within a single project file - see page 20 of cont-eni.pdf > (I once did two books this way). Then you can do cross-references > between both books. IIRC you can then take the TOC in one product or > component and place it in the other. So in the English book you can > place the Arabic TOC and vice versa. This raises a related, more general question on how to handle multilingual documents. The English first half, Arabic second half is just one example. There are also bilingual texts with left and right columns or facing even and odd pages. We also all know of manuals containing a succession of different languages, sometimes sharing a unique set of figures, sometimes repeating the figures (with differing captions and labels). It is not obvious how to maintain parallel texts containing identical structure in multiple languages (in multiple files?). The project/product/component mechanism can help somewhat. I also know that Thomas had written a streams module to handle the synchronization of texts. However, I am not so sure how to go about this in a real, full-fledged case with a complicated text. Presently, I maintain multiple files that I compare and edit side-by-side using a "diff" tool such as meld (gtk) or kdiff3 (kde). I am sure that other users have good or better solutions that they might want to indicate. The question is how to create a structure that is both readable and manageable? Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] reverse page order and reverse page numbering in one part of a book
Dear Talal, Salaam. See below: On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 03:49:29 -0600, tala...@fastmail.fm wrote: Dear all, I am producing a book that is divided into two sections. The book is published in English, and thus it runs left to right. Part one is an academic study in English. Part two is a critical edition of an Arabic text. The book is exactly 100 pages long, with fifty pages going to the English study, and fifty pages to the Arabic edition. In Part One (which includes all the front matter of the book, such as the table of contents, etc.): the page ordering runs left-to-right, the pagination runs from 1 to 50, and the page numbers should be printed in Arabic numerals. However, in Part Two (the Arabic text): the page ordering should run right-to-left, the page numbers should run in “reverse” pagination (in which “page 1" of the critical edition begins at the “back” of the book), and the page numbers should be printed in Hindi numerals. In other words, the structure of the book’s pages would be as follows (ellipses used to jump): 1 2 3 … 48 49 50 ٥٠ ٤٩ ٤٨ … ٣ ٢ ١ I would like the Table of Contents then to look something like this: Forward . . . . . . v English Study . . . 1 Arabic Edition. . . ١ Index of names. . . ٥٠ So my question is: is this currently possible in ConTeXt, to produce a single PDF, with such a TOC, from one file? Or am I bringing on too much of a headache upon myself, and it is easier to produce two separate files — but if so, how would one produce a TOC that includes the parts and page numbers of both documents? For getting the Arabic pages to go the other way, I would leave that to the printer and/or post-pdf processing. After all, ConTeXt doesn't care about whether the book itself reads RTL or LTR. OTOH, you may have to reverse some of the \setuplayout parameters (such as margin and backspace) for the Arabic portion of the book. I'm sure you've seen Arthur Jeffery, Materials for the History of the Text of the Quran, for a nicely typeset example of what you are trying to do. Or even Revelation and Falsification edited by Kohlberg [a very misleading and sensationalist title by the way]. If you want to have two books in one, you *may* want to rethink this: Just have an Arabic TOC in the Arabic section (entirely RTL of course) and an English TOC in the English section. The English TOC need only point to the fact that the Arabic edition comes afterwards, and the Arabic TOC could do the same. That said: You could typeset both books as distinct products or components within a single project file - see page 20 of cont-eni.pdf (I once did two books this way). Then you can do cross-references between both books. IIRC you can then take the TOC in one product or component and place it in the other. So in the English book you can place the Arabic TOC and vice versa. Of course you will want to define a separate TOC control sequence for each. So you can get, e.g. \starttitle[title=Table of Contents] \start \LATINFONTOPTIONS \placeENGLISHcontent \stop \start \ARABICFONTOPTIONS \placeARABICcontent \stop \stoptitle which gives you exactly what you want. After all is said and done, the printer can reverse the order of the Arabic pages but that will not affect your TOC. Note that your example has English section names mapped to Arabic/Hindi page numerals (again, I would prefer a purely Arabic TOC). But your section titles in the Edition will not be in English. ConTeXt allows you to use dummy names for section title that will end up in your TOC, and this is documented in the manual I'm sure. Tangent: We need to start looking at the needs of Arabic indices in ConTeXt. Alan Braslau and Hans Hagen are already working on a new bibliography module that will eventually support RTL needs as well. Best wishes Idris -- Idris Samawi Hamid Professor of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] reverse page order and reverse page numbering in one part of a book
Dear all, I am producing a book that is divided into two sections. The book is published in English, and thus it runs left to right. Part one is an academic study in English. Part two is a critical edition of an Arabic text. The book is exactly 100 pages long, with fifty pages going to the English study, and fifty pages to the Arabic edition. In Part One (which includes all the front matter of the book, such as the table of contents, etc.): the page ordering runs left-to-right, the pagination runs from 1 to 50, and the page numbers should be printed in Arabic numerals. However, in Part Two (the Arabic text): the page ordering should run right-to-left, the page numbers should run in “reverse” pagination (in which “page 1" of the critical edition begins at the “back” of the book), and the page numbers should be printed in Hindi numerals. In other words, the structure of the book’s pages would be as follows (ellipses used to jump): 1 2 3 … 48 49 50 ٥٠ ٤٩ ٤٨ … ٣ ٢ ١ I would like the Table of Contents then to look something like this: Forward . . . . . . v English Study . . . 1 Arabic Edition. . . ١ Index of names. . . ٥٠ So my question is: is this currently possible in ConTeXt, to produce a single PDF, with such a TOC, from one file? Or am I bringing on too much of a headache upon myself, and it is easier to produce two separate files — but if so, how would one produce a TOC that includes the parts and page numbers of both documents? Many thanks, and best wishes, Talal___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] SyncTeX (TeXworks) - \enabledirectives[system.synctex] (now with attachments)
Hello,
any answer to "\enabledirectives[system.synctex]" functionality or
deprecateness?
Best regards,
Lukas
On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 09:43:29 +0200, Procházka Lukáš Ing. - Pontex s. r. o.
wrote:
Hello,
two questions related to SyncTeX (and maybe on TeXworks):
1. The following code:
\enabledirectives[system.synctex]
\starttext
Hello!
\startluacode % line 6
context("Something")
\stopluacode
\stoptext
doesn't produce SyncTeX file (SyncTeX.synctex.gz).
When I compile the file with "context.exe --synctex" option, the file is
produced.
Does it mean that "\enabledirectives[system.synctex]" is deprecated?
2. In the code above, text "Hello!" is generated in "normal TeX scope" whilst
"Something" is generated from within Lua.
When I click "Jump to source" from TeXworks editor and previewer, jumping from
"Something" works well and goes to the source "SyncTeX.mkiv" correctly.
"Jumping to source" from "Something" yields "Cannot read file
" error (see attached picture).
I don't know whether this relates to ConTeXt or rather TeXworks;
for the case it should relate to ConTeXt, would it be possible generate an anchor (e.g.) to the nearest
encapsulating \startluacode (if present; or \ctxlua, \cldcontext and so), so that "Jump to source"
over "Something" would jump to \startluacode on "line 6"?
Best regards,
Lukas
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[NTG-context] User-Defined Commands With Key-Value Options
On 7/20/2105 11:28 AM Joas Yannick wrote: > > > On 7/20/2105 0:50 AM Hans Hagen wrote: > > So how would you like to use lua? Is the data stored in lua? > > Yes, I imagine that the data (for instance, the value of > the keys "number", "name", "abbreviation", "title", etc.) > is stored somewhere when the compilation process reads, say, > "\startbiblebook", and that they are available to define the > the formatting done by "\startbiblebook". > > Thank you. I have found this wiki: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Commands_with_KeyVal_arguments But since I do not know Lua, I would appreciate that someone gets me started with my example. Many thanks, Yours sincerely. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
