Re: [NTG-context] WYSIWYM editor on top of ConTeXt / Lout

2017-12-02 Thread Jonas Baggett

> Hi Jonas,
> A desktop editor, not so much. But it'd be wonderful to have a cloud 
based

> one with Git integration. I've rolled my own with floobits and my own VM,
> but that doesn't scale and I can't share it with my students.
>
> What you describe has already been worked on by overleaf in terms of a
> realtime option instead of a code option. Maybe extending their work 
would

> be a good place to start?
> Cheers,
> -Brian
Hi Brian,

The type of users that I would like to target, will be those writting 
rather classical documents of more than 10 - 12 pages and wanting to be 
able to focus much more on the content than in the formatting but still 
have good looking results. Typically students or professional that are 
used to write reports with Word but would be interested to use a more 
productive editor, but not ready to move too far away from WYSIWYG.


I didn't made a definitive choice yet, but I believe that being able to 
use the editor offline, independantly of the user internet connection, 
is almost like a must have. But what sounds interesting, as a nice to 
have, would be an editor that can both work in a cloud workflow which 
enables features like instant collaborative editing, and a git-like 
workflow where user can work offline, then publish online, and if 
needed, resolve conflicts.


In regards to the realtime option of overleaf, I guess that after each 
change of the document, it runs LaTeX to export the document to PDF. The 
template edition mode would do something different as first it won't be 
updated realtime: it is only when the user switch to the template 
edition mode that the template as well as the contents will rendered on 
screen by the editor, without doing any export to PDF.


Cheers,
Jonas

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Re: [NTG-context] complete cut marks

2017-12-02 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 11/29/2017 10:28 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> On 29.11.2017 21:11, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>> Could this be implemented?
>>
>> I come to this proposal after having to mark myself the sheets that I
>> wanted to cut.
> 
> I have an old module t-crop that offers this kind of marks, I don't 
> think it was ever really published. I hope this makes it through to the 
> list. It offers 3 different kinds of marks, size and position can be 
> configured. Maybe this can help you.

Many thanks for your reply and the module, Thomas.

I’m afraid that this doesn’t help me, because it requires a middle
location. This is exactly what I need to avoid.

Many thanks for your help,

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Re: [NTG-context] complete cut marks

2017-12-02 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 11/29/2017 09:53 PM, luigi scarso wrote:
> I think it can easily  done with a layer,
> but the scope of the crop marks is to make a "clean" cut;
> adding more marks as in your example  means that the final sheets
> can still have a "dirty" remain of inks of the marks.

Hi Luigi,

there are some cases (when you don’t want a middle location), in which
you need marks inside).

> The marks as in ConTeXt are ok,  the trick is don't cut too much --- see
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnOyOI7sjsg

I don’t mean that the marks are wrong.

But it is impossible to have a left or right location and cut the paper
with a trimmer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_cutter).

This is why a crossed marking makes sense.

Many thanks for your reply,

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Re: [NTG-context] framed with titles

2017-12-02 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
Hi Dalyoung,

would it be possible that you add both samples to the wiki?

This is the best way to have a reference for future needs.

Pablo


On 12/03/2017 12:11 AM, Jeong Dal wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Some days ago, I asked a method to put theorem numbers in a framed title.
> Recently, Wolfgang gave me a solution which worked very well.
> 
> Although the first one is much simpler than the second, I’d like to show
> two samples made by his suggestion. 
> I hope that it may help someone who has the similar problem.
> 
> Thanks Wolfgang again.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Dalyoung
> 
> %% first method
> %1. use \enumerationparameter{text} and add “text=Theorem” in
> \defineenumeration.
> %%%
> \defineframed
>   [FunnyFramed]
>   [frame=off,
>    loffset=1ex,
>    roffset=1ex,
>    foregroundstyle=\ssbf]
> 
> \startuseMPgraphic{FunnyFrame}
>     picture p ; numeric o ; path a, b ; pair c ;
>     p := textext.rt("\FunnyFramed{\enumerationparameter{text}
> \convertedcounter[Theorem]}") ;
>     o := BodyFontSize ;
>     a := unitsquare xyscaled (OverlayWidth,OverlayHeight) ;
>     p := p shifted (2o,OverlayHeight-ypart center p) ;
>     drawoptions (withpen pencircle scaled 1pt withcolor .625red) ;
>     b := a superellipsed .95 ;
>     draw b ;
>     b := (boundingbox p) superellipsed .95 ;
>     fill b withcolor .85white ;
>     draw b ;
>     draw p withcolor black ;
>     setbounds currentpicture to a ;
> \stopuseMPgraphic 
> 
> 
> \defineoverlay[FunnyFrame][\useMPgraphic{FunnyFrame}] 
> 
> \defineframedtext
>   [FunnyText]
>   [frame=off,
>    background=FunnyFrame,
>    before={\blank[line,halfline]},
>    after={\blank[line]},
>    offset=\bodyfontsize,
>    width=\textwidth]
> 
> \defineenumeration[Theorem]
>   [title=no,
>   text=Theorem,
>    prefix=yes,
>    prefixsegments=chapter,
>    way=bychapter,
>    alternative=command,
>    headcommand=\gobbleoneargument,
>    before=\startFunnyText,
>    after=\stopFunnyText]
> 
> \defineenumeration[Lemma]
>   [title=no,
>   text=Lemma,
>    prefix=yes,
>    prefixsegments=chapter,
>    way=bychapter,
>    alternative=command,
>    counter=Theorem,
>    headcommand=\gobbleoneargument,
>    before=\startFunnyText,
>    after=\stopFunnyText]
>    
> \defineenumeration[Coro]
>   [title=no,
>   text=Corollary,
>    prefix=yes,
>    prefixsegments=chapter,
>    way=bychapter,
>    alternative=command,
>    counter=Theorem,
>    headcommand=\gobbleoneargument,
>    before=\startFunnyText,
>    after=\stopFunnyText]
> \starttext
> 
> \dorecurse{3}
> {\chapter{Chapter Title}
>     
> 
> \startLemma
>     Fort's space is a compact and Hausdorff topological space.
> \stopLemma
> 
> \startTheorem
>     Fort's space is a compact and Hausdorff topological space.
> \stopTheorem
> 
> 
> \startTheorem
> Let $X$ be a uncountable set. Let $\infty$ is a fixed point of $X$. Let
> $\mathcal T$ be the family of subsets $G$ such that either (i) $\infty
> \notin G$ or (ii) $\infty \in G \text{ and } G^c$ is finite. The space
> $(X, {\mathcal T} )$ is called {\bf Fort's space}.
> \stopTheorem
> 
> \startLemma
>     Fort's space is a compact and Hausdorff topological space.
> \stopLemma
> 
> \startCoro
>     Fort's space is a compact and Hausdorff topological space.
> \stopCoro
> }
> 
> \stoptext
>     
> % 2nd method
> %2. use \MPvar{} and define 3 different backgrounds, 3 different
> framedtexts like
> %\defineoverlay[FunnyFrameT][\useMPgraphic{FunnyFrame}{what=Theorem}] 
> %
> 
> \defineframed
>   [FunnyFramed]
>   [frame=off,
>    loffset=1ex,
>    roffset=1ex,
>    foregroundstyle=\ssbf]
> 
> \startuseMPgraphic{FunnyFrame}
>     picture p ; numeric o ; path a, b ; pair c ;
>     p := textext.rt("\FunnyFramed{\MPvar{what}
> \convertedcounter[Theorem]}") ;                   
>     o := BodyFontSize ;
>     a := unitsquare xyscaled (OverlayWidth,OverlayHeight) ;
>     p := p shifted (2o,OverlayHeight-ypart center p) ;
>     drawoptions (withpen pencircle scaled 1pt withcolor .625red) ;
>     b := a superellipsed .95 ;
>     draw b ;
>     b := (boundingbox p) superellipsed .95 ;
>     fill b withcolor .85white ;
>     draw b ;
>     draw p withcolor black ;
>     setbounds currentpicture to a ;
> \stopuseMPgraphic 
> 
> \defineoverlay[FunnyFrameT][\useMPgraphic{FunnyFrame}{what=Theorem}] 
> \defineoverlay[FunnyFrameL][\useMPgraphic{FunnyFrame}{what=Lemma}] 
> \defineoverlay[FunnyFrameC][\useMPgraphic{FunnyFrame}{what=Corollary}] 
> 
> \defineframedtext
>   [FunnyTheorem]
>   [frame=off,
>    background=FunnyFrameT,
>    before={\blank[line,halfline]},
>    after={\blank[line]},
>    offset=\bodyfontsize,
>    width=\textwidth]
> 
> \defineframedtext
>   [FunnyLemma]
>   [frame=off,
>    background=FunnyFrameL,
>    before={\blank[line,halfline]},
>    after={\blank[line]},
>    offset=\bodyfontsize,
>    width=\textwidth]
> 
> \defineframedtext
>   [FunnyCoro]
>   [frame=off,
>    background=FunnyFrameC,
>    before={\blank[line,halfline]},
>    after={\blank[line]},
>  

Re: [NTG-context] WYSIWYM editor on top of ConTeXt / Lout

2017-12-02 Thread Jonas Baggett

Hi Hraban,

The type of users that I would like to target, will be those writting 
documents of more than 10 - 12 pages. Typically students or professional 
that are used to write reports with Word but would be interested to use 
a more productive editor, but not ready to move too far away from WYSIWYG.


For me, being able to work offline is almost a must have. Having an 
online mode could enable some interesting features, such as 
collaborative editing, but if the application is internet dependant and 
you have a problem with your internet connection, then you cannot do the 
very basics you would expect from a document editor.


From my understanding, Atom is a modified version of Chrome that 
behaves like an offline editor, so that's an option that I would like to 
consider.


Actually I am working for a web development company, I will submit the 
idea, as it could well be that there are other use cases, that I am not 
aware of, where such an editor as a web application could make sense. 
But still, a standalone application makes sense to me for the use cases 
I am considering.


Cheers,
Jonas


Le 02.12.17 à 13:55, Henning Hraban Ramm a écrit :

Am 2017-12-02 um 08:42 schrieb Jonas Baggett :


Hi everyone,

This is a blog post I recently published: 
https://jonas17b.wixsite.com/monsite/home/wysiwym-editor-on-top-of-context-lout.
 It is about some ideas I have for a WYSIWYM editor like LyX, but it would be 
designed for using more than 1 backend (e.g. ConTeXt, Lout), and to give a much 
better user experience.

Anyone interested by the concept?

Hi Jonas,

sounds interesting, there might be overlap with what I tried for an editorial 
system (web-app on which I can’t work for the time being, since the customer 
plays dead and I got other projects):
There I use an usual HTML editor plugin (TinyMCE, CKEditor) and would convert 
its output to ConTeXt and whatever the customer wants, most probably IDML 
(InDesign-XML). User formatting must be restricted to predefined styles (also 
WRT images).
As far as I understood, Pragma has something similar running for educational 
material.

A standalone app like LyX wouldn’t fit my needs. Consider creating it as a 
plugin to some platform like Atom or a web framework?

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Re: [NTG-context] framed with titles

2017-12-02 Thread Jeong Dal
Hi,

Some days ago, I asked a method to put theorem numbers in a framed title.
Recently, Wolfgang gave me a solution which worked very well.

Although the first one is much simpler than the second, I’d like to show two 
samples made by his suggestion. 
I hope that it may help someone who has the similar problem.

Thanks Wolfgang again.

Best regards,

Dalyoung

%% first method
%1. use \enumerationparameter{text} and add “text=Theorem” in 
\defineenumeration.
%%%
\defineframed
  [FunnyFramed]
  [frame=off,
   loffset=1ex,
   roffset=1ex,
   foregroundstyle=\ssbf]

\startuseMPgraphic{FunnyFrame}
picture p ; numeric o ; path a, b ; pair c ;
p := textext.rt("\FunnyFramed{\enumerationparameter{text} 
\convertedcounter[Theorem]}") ;
o := BodyFontSize ;
a := unitsquare xyscaled (OverlayWidth,OverlayHeight) ;
p := p shifted (2o,OverlayHeight-ypart center p) ;
drawoptions (withpen pencircle scaled 1pt withcolor .625red) ;
b := a superellipsed .95 ;
draw b ;
b := (boundingbox p) superellipsed .95 ;
fill b withcolor .85white ;
draw b ;
draw p withcolor black ;
setbounds currentpicture to a ;
\stopuseMPgraphic 


\defineoverlay[FunnyFrame][\useMPgraphic{FunnyFrame}] 

\defineframedtext
  [FunnyText]
  [frame=off,
   background=FunnyFrame,
   before={\blank[line,halfline]},
   after={\blank[line]},
   offset=\bodyfontsize,
   width=\textwidth]

\defineenumeration[Theorem]
  [title=no,
  text=Theorem,
   prefix=yes,
   prefixsegments=chapter,
   way=bychapter,
   alternative=command,
   headcommand=\gobbleoneargument,
   before=\startFunnyText,
   after=\stopFunnyText]

\defineenumeration[Lemma]
  [title=no,
  text=Lemma,
   prefix=yes,
   prefixsegments=chapter,
   way=bychapter,
   alternative=command,
   counter=Theorem,
   headcommand=\gobbleoneargument,
   before=\startFunnyText,
   after=\stopFunnyText]
   
\defineenumeration[Coro]
  [title=no,
  text=Corollary,
   prefix=yes,
   prefixsegments=chapter,
   way=bychapter,
   alternative=command,
   counter=Theorem,
   headcommand=\gobbleoneargument,
   before=\startFunnyText,
   after=\stopFunnyText]
\starttext

\dorecurse{3}
{\chapter{Chapter Title}


\startLemma
Fort's space is a compact and Hausdorff topological space.
\stopLemma

\startTheorem
Fort's space is a compact and Hausdorff topological space.
\stopTheorem


\startTheorem
Let $X$ be a uncountable set. Let $\infty$ is a fixed point of $X$. Let 
$\mathcal T$ be the family of subsets $G$ such that either (i) $\infty \notin 
G$ or (ii) $\infty \in G \text{ and } G^c$ is finite. The space $(X, {\mathcal 
T} )$ is called {\bf Fort's space}.
\stopTheorem

\startLemma
Fort's space is a compact and Hausdorff topological space.
\stopLemma

\startCoro
Fort's space is a compact and Hausdorff topological space.
\stopCoro
}

\stoptext

% 2nd method
%2. use \MPvar{} and define 3 different backgrounds, 3 different framedtexts 
like
%   \defineoverlay[FunnyFrameT][\useMPgraphic{FunnyFrame}{what=Theorem}]
%

\defineframed
  [FunnyFramed]
  [frame=off,
   loffset=1ex,
   roffset=1ex,
   foregroundstyle=\ssbf]

\startuseMPgraphic{FunnyFrame}
picture p ; numeric o ; path a, b ; pair c ;
p := textext.rt("\FunnyFramed{\MPvar{what} \convertedcounter[Theorem]}") ;  
 
o := BodyFontSize ;
a := unitsquare xyscaled (OverlayWidth,OverlayHeight) ;
p := p shifted (2o,OverlayHeight-ypart center p) ;
drawoptions (withpen pencircle scaled 1pt withcolor .625red) ;
b := a superellipsed .95 ;
draw b ;
b := (boundingbox p) superellipsed .95 ;
fill b withcolor .85white ;
draw b ;
draw p withcolor black ;
setbounds currentpicture to a ;
\stopuseMPgraphic 

\defineoverlay[FunnyFrameT][\useMPgraphic{FunnyFrame}{what=Theorem}] 
\defineoverlay[FunnyFrameL][\useMPgraphic{FunnyFrame}{what=Lemma}] 
\defineoverlay[FunnyFrameC][\useMPgraphic{FunnyFrame}{what=Corollary}] 

\defineframedtext
  [FunnyTheorem]
  [frame=off,
   background=FunnyFrameT,
   before={\blank[line,halfline]},
   after={\blank[line]},
   offset=\bodyfontsize,
   width=\textwidth]

\defineframedtext
  [FunnyLemma]
  [frame=off,
   background=FunnyFrameL,
   before={\blank[line,halfline]},
   after={\blank[line]},
   offset=\bodyfontsize,
   width=\textwidth]

\defineframedtext
  [FunnyCoro]
  [frame=off,
   background=FunnyFrameC,
   before={\blank[line,halfline]},
   after={\blank[line]},
   offset=\bodyfontsize,
   width=\textwidth]

\defineenumeration[Theorem]
  [title=no,
   prefix=yes,
   prefixsegments=chapter,
   way=bychapter,
   alternative=command,
   headcommand=\gobbleoneargument,
   before=\startFunnyTheorem,
   after=\stopFunnyTheorem]

\defineenumeration[Lemma]
  [title=no,
   prefix=yes,
   prefixsegments=chapter,
   way=bychapter,
   alternative=command,
   counter=Theorem,
   headcommand=\gobbleoneargument,
   before=\startFunnyLemma,
   after=\stopFunnyLemma]

\defineenumeration[Coro]
  [ti

Re: [NTG-context] Modern CV like cover letter example

2017-12-02 Thread Jonas Baggett

Hi Aditya,

I have now included the resulting PDF.

Jonas


On Sat, 2 Dec 2017, Jonas Baggett wrote:

>/Hi Aditya, />//>/Now I have updated the Modern CV like cover letter example that I 
published />/in http://wiki.contextgarden.net/index.php?title=Letter_style 
according to />/your suggestions. /

Thanks for adding this to the wiki. It will be nice to include a
screenshot showing the output as well.

Aditya


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Re: [NTG-context] Modern CV like cover letter example

2017-12-02 Thread Jonas Baggett

Hi Aditya,

Now I have updated the Modern CV like cover letter example that I 
published in http://wiki.contextgarden.net/index.php?title=Letter_style 
according to your suggestions.


Thank you again,
Jonas


Le 21.04.17 à 08:40, Aditya Mahajan a écrit :

On Thu, 20 Apr 2017, Jonas Baggett wrote:


Hi Pablo,

Thanks ! I think you are right about that labeltext doesn't support 
an extra parameter. Then I will need to do it that way, I guess :


\def \gender {male}

\doifelse {\gender} {male} {
  \setuplabeltext [en] [longtitle=Mister]
  \setuplabeltext [fr] [longtitle=Monsieur]
}{ % female
  \setuplabeltext [en] [longtitle=Madam]
  \setuplabeltext [fr] [longtitle=Madame]
}

\starttext
  \mainlanguage[fr] \labeltext{longtitle}
  \mainlanguage[en] \labeltext{longtitle}
\stoptext


You can also do:

\setuplabeltext [en] [male:longtitle=Mister, female:longtitle=Madam]
\setuplabeltext [fr] [male:longtitle=Monsieur, female:longtitle=Madame]

\mainlanguage[fr] \labeltext{\gender:longtitle}

etc.

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Re: [NTG-context] Modern CV like cover letter example

2017-12-02 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Sat, 2 Dec 2017, Jonas Baggett wrote:


Hi Aditya,

Now I have updated the Modern CV like cover letter example that I published 
in http://wiki.contextgarden.net/index.php?title=Letter_style according to 
your suggestions.


Thanks for adding this to the wiki. It will be nice to include a 
screenshot showing the output as well.


Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] WYSIWYM editor on top of ConTeXt / Lout

2017-12-02 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2017-12-02 um 08:42 schrieb Jonas Baggett :

> Hi everyone,
> 
> This is a blog post I recently published: 
> https://jonas17b.wixsite.com/monsite/home/wysiwym-editor-on-top-of-context-lout.
>  It is about some ideas I have for a WYSIWYM editor like LyX, but it would be 
> designed for using more than 1 backend (e.g. ConTeXt, Lout), and to give a 
> much better user experience.
> 
> Anyone interested by the concept?

Hi Jonas,

sounds interesting, there might be overlap with what I tried for an editorial 
system (web-app on which I can’t work for the time being, since the customer 
plays dead and I got other projects):
There I use an usual HTML editor plugin (TinyMCE, CKEditor) and would convert 
its output to ConTeXt and whatever the customer wants, most probably IDML 
(InDesign-XML). User formatting must be restricted to predefined styles (also 
WRT images).
As far as I understood, Pragma has something similar running for educational 
material.

A standalone app like LyX wouldn’t fit my needs. Consider creating it as a 
plugin to some platform like Atom or a web framework?

Greetlings, Hraban
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http://wiki.contextgarden.net
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Re: [NTG-context] WYSIWYM editor on top of ConTeXt / Lout

2017-12-02 Thread Gour
On Sat, 2 Dec 2017 19:40:35 +1100
Brian Ballsun-Stanton  wrote:

> A desktop editor, not so much. But it'd be wonderful to have a cloud
> based one with Git integration. 

+1 for desktop editor, although I plan to use Emacs for my ConTeXt writing, so
having better support in AUCTeX would be also nice. At the end, I believe that
Emacs is not so scary as it looks, especially for the folks ready to enter into
the world of things like ConTeXt...

As far as Git integration is concerned, not very important feature for me since
I prefer using Fossil. ;)

Btw, Lout is also interesting, but, iirc, it lacks proper Unicode
(UTF-8) support. Recently I was also looking at groff/mom...


Sincerely,
Gour

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Re: [NTG-context] WYSIWYM editor on top of ConTeXt / Lout

2017-12-02 Thread Siep Kroonenberg
On Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 08:42:59AM +0100, Jonas Baggett wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> This is a blog post I recently published: 
> https://jonas17b.wixsite.com/monsite/home/wysiwym-editor-on-top-of-context-lout.

See screenshot showing your website in my browser.

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Re: [NTG-context] WYSIWYM editor on top of ConTeXt / Lout

2017-12-02 Thread Brian Ballsun-Stanton
Hi Jonas,

A desktop editor, not so much. But it'd be wonderful to have a cloud based
one with Git integration. I've rolled my own with floobits and my own VM,
but that doesn't scale and I can't share it with my students.

What you describe has already been worked on by overleaf in terms of a
realtime option instead of a code option. Maybe extending their work would
be a good place to start?
Cheers,
-Brian

On 2 December 2017 at 18:42, Jonas Baggett  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> This is a blog post I recently published: https://jonas17b.wixsite.com/m
> onsite/home/wysiwym-editor-on-top-of-context-lout. It is about some ideas
> I have for a WYSIWYM editor like LyX, but it would be designed for using
> more than 1 backend (e.g. ConTeXt, Lout), and to give a much better user
> experience.
>
> Anyone interested by the concept?
>
> Cheers,
> Jonas
>
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[NTG-context] WYSIWYM editor on top of ConTeXt / Lout

2017-12-02 Thread Jonas Baggett

Hi everyone,

This is a blog post I recently published: 
https://jonas17b.wixsite.com/monsite/home/wysiwym-editor-on-top-of-context-lout. 
It is about some ideas I have for a WYSIWYM editor like LyX, but it 
would be designed for using more than 1 backend (e.g. ConTeXt, Lout), 
and to give a much better user experience.


Anyone interested by the concept?

Cheers,
Jonas

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