[NTG-context] Re: Number in a circle

2024-05-31 Thread Bruce Horrocks 
On 31 May 2024, at 00:05, Kip Warner  wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 2024-05-30 at 23:20 +0100, Bruce Horrocks wrote:
>> I'd be able to maintain a Context PPA but there already seems to be
>> one:
>> 
> 
> I think that's just the source used in Ubuntu. This is called a "source
> package" in the Debian parlance:
> 
>   https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html

Ah yes. I was thinking that launchpad.net was a Debian PPA but I see now that 
it is Ubuntu only, albeit users of other distros can install from it if they 
know the 'magic' command line trickery.

> But if you click the "Other versions of 'context' in untrusted
> archives" at the bottom of the page it will show you PPAs. There
> appears to be three, all of which are ancient.

Of the three, the "ConTeXt daily builds" owned by Adam Reviczky seems to be 
up-to-date, just not listed in date order so it's not as obvious as it might be.

If I understand the odd naming convention correctly, he has updated Ubuntu 
versions 18.04, 20.04, 22.04, 23.04 and 24.04 with the version of Context 
current as at 2024-05-29. So presumably Ubuntu users of those versions can get 
the latest Context by running an 'apt install context' command?

> Just so you know, Ubuntu source packages are just Debian source
> packages, but often with some downstream patches. The Debian source
> package is what ends up in endless distros.
> 
> Probably most lay users who use ConTeXt outside of building from a
> tarball or putting somewhere outside of the FHS are using some Debian
> distro derivative's package via:
> 
>   $ sudo apt install context
> 
> Unless the Debian package is updated, usually downstream derivative
> distros won't update their own. For that reason if you want to affect
> the most change for the most users it's best to do so here:
> 
>   https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/context

According to  Debian 
'experimental' is up-to-date with ConTeXT as of 2024-04-01. This is for the 
experimental release of course, but it does mean that the package is being 
maintained. Just that the release schedule of Debian is so slow. :-(

Or put another way, I don't think the issues we're seeing are due to lack of 
maintainer effort but rather a result of the way Debian does releases.

> Over a hundred distros just recycle the above source package and its
> resulting binaries.
> 
> Usually Debian is slow to update their packages, depending on who is
> assigned as package maintainer. Because of that, this is part of the
> reason why PPAs are popular because they shorten the time for lay users
> to try the new version without having to fiddle with paths, tarballs,
> etc.
> 
> Once you have a PPA up, to build binary packages the builder does the
> same as the ones used by the Debian project. You upload a Debian source
> package and it will then go and build and test the resulting binary
> packages. After that it injects them into the APT repository (which is
> all a PPA is).

I'm not sure there is a need to do any more than Adam Reviczky is already 
doing. When I find a bit of time I'll install a Ubuntu 24.04 into a VM and see 
what version of Context is installed, likewise Debian.

—
Bruce Horrocks
Hampshire, UK

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[NTG-context] Re: framed boxes top aligned howto?

2024-05-31 Thread Hans van der Meer via ntg-context 
Forget this question: location=top did the trick.
Should have found earlier. Rest of the day contemplating over the fact it took 
me so long to find out 🥲

yours sincerely
dr. Hans van der Meer



> On 31 May 2024, at 12:13, Hans van der Meer via ntg-context 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have no problem of aligning two or more \framedtext boxes bottomwise on the 
> baseline, nor centering them vertically within a \vcenter.
> But I do not succeed in placing them with their top aligned without the 
> following trick: typeset them in a box, determine largestheight and then 
> typeset again each within: \vbox to largestheight and \vill'ed to the bottom.
> 
> All very well, but it is disastrous when there are side effects: twice 
> typesetting then fails in some instances.
> I hope I described the question sufficiently clear, because an MWE is not so 
> minimal.
> 
> Therefore my question: how can I align two or more \framedtext's thus:
> 
> |--] |--] |--] ...
> |  ] [  ] [  ]
> |  ] [  ] [  ]
> |  ] [  ] [  ]
> |  ] |--] [  ]
> |  ]  [  ]
> |  ]  [  ]
> |--]  [  ]
>   |--]
> 
> yours sincerely
> dr. Hans van der Meer
> 
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[NTG-context] framed boxes top aligned howto?

2024-05-31 Thread Hans van der Meer via ntg-context 
I have no problem of aligning two or more \framedtext boxes bottomwise on the 
baseline, nor centering them vertically within a \vcenter.
But I do not succeed in placing them with their top aligned without the 
following trick: typeset them in a box, determine largestheight and then 
typeset again each within: \vbox to largestheight and \vill'ed to the bottom.

All very well, but it is disastrous when there are side effects: twice 
typesetting then fails in some instances.
I hope I described the question sufficiently clear, because an MWE is not so 
minimal.

Therefore my question: how can I align two or more \framedtext's thus:

|--] |--] |--] ...
|  ] [  ] [  ]
|  ] [  ] [  ]
|  ] [  ] [  ]
|  ] |--] [  ]
|  ]  [  ]
|  ]  [  ]
|--]  [  ]
  |--]

yours sincerely
dr. Hans van der Meer



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