Re: [NTG-context] more manuals
On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 11:08:33PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > Hi, Hello, > > I uploaded Mmm, uploaded to where ? I did visit http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm and clicked 6 (six) times on 'next' I also did visit http://www.pragma-ade.com/document-1.htm where I clicked on 'all manuals' which did bring me to http://www.pragma-ade.com/show-man-1.htm. Seeing the "page 1 of 42" made me loose my appetite. Writing this E-mail inspired me to manaully change the URL to http://www.pragma-ade.com/show-man-42.htm but still not the fresh uploaded manuals. In other words: Add a URL to a "I uploaded" > enattab > eppchtex What do the documents document? Please provide a (short) description of the manuals. > esp the nattab manual needs some updating (new features) so if you run > into a missing aspect ... ... I think that is another example of * you mean what I mean * smart people will find their way, normal people can follow them * I have no time to communicate, your help is welcome * > Hans This E-mail is written with the best intensions, but it can be read as offencesive. In that case: Shoot the messenger and return to bisness as usual Cheers Geert Stappers signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] documents to (print and) read
On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 06:12:30PM +0200, Jano Kula wrote: > [ "&emdash;" expected to be defined ] > > > Here is the hint - needs to be wikified now ... -) > > I can't resist to do so (that's why I need an explanation), cause as a > newbie I see the only weakness of the ConTeXt in the lack of documentation. > > Well, there is a lot of it, maybe there is too much of it spread all > over the different places (that's why wiki is here), maybe I'm not > familiar enough with ConTeXt yet, but as a long term user of LaTeX I'm > still quite confused after a week or so of browsing through the > documentation, trying to find out how the things work and how they are > related. Well, it took some time to understand LaTeX, too. I would buy > the book mentioned here immediatelly. > > These are not complaints, just another hint how to smooth starting with > ConTeXt. As I see the possibilities I become addicted ;) and I do > understand the developers have a lot of work with developing. > > Would anybody who suggests the wikifying mind the proper place to put it > in the wiki, if known? Or I shouldn't care and the administators tide it > up occasionally. As a newbie I might not to think of writing to wiki, > but better something than nothing, right? > > As the new one here, I can add some small examples as I learn and test > the things, what would be nice for the newcomers, if somebody > experienced would add to wiki an explanation of the documentations in > terms of user experience > > 1. "must read" > 2. how the things work (texexec, etc.) > 3. simple topics > 4. advanced features > > If I see the all-manuals page (http://www.pragma-ade.com/show-man.pdf) I > really don't know where to start. All the titles look so interesting! > Such overview could postpone the temptation to seek for advanced topic > and subsequently get lost, as in my case. (Might be only my fault.) Here the very same situation. My question boils down to Which document should I print, book bundle and read. (Reading the "wrong" manual is only "lost time", printing the wrong manual is waste of time AND materiaals ... ) > > Sorry for the desperade bigginer's notes, hope they help. To finish it > why I can't get these two (advanced) pages? > > http://www.pragma-ade.com/makeres.html > http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/xcorresp.pdf_Serial_Letters On which page were to broken links (404s) encountered? > > Looking forward to use ConTeXt, > > Jano Geert signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] xml / docbook
On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 09:24:50AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello, Hi, > Could anyone give some tips how to make Docbook work with context? I > followed the documentation, but somehow it does not work. Please elaborate that. ( show your converting XSL files, show your XML source files show which (unwanted) results you get) > This would, i believe, also solve Johannes' problem. Incomplete documentation affects even more people ... Cheers Geert Stappers ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] sources of the manaul
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 05:17:46PM -0500, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, frantisek holop wrote: > > > > i think i have read something about this issue, but i don't remember > > where or when :) > > You can check out the manual sources from the svn respository > svn://ctx.pragma-ade.nl/manuals Is there a "read-only account" available? When doing a check out, how much data will be transferred? (So I can estimate the download time (or reconsider doing it ;- )) > If you prefer to browse them online they are available at > http://context.aanhet.net/svn/ Or is that the "read-only account"? (Is `svn checkout http://context.aanhet.net/svn/ context-manual` the way to go ? ) Cheers Geert Stappers ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Manual or Book
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 06:32:59PM -0500, John R. Culleton wrote: > On Friday 10 March 2006 13:29, Jeffrey Drake wrote: > > I have heard a bit of talk about 'if the manual is updated' or some > > such like that. I was going to have the manual printed in a book so I > > have a hardcopy. Is the manual still current and relevant that it > > would be worth it? > > > > The manual is five years old. the pattern has been to issue > additional documentation rather than update the "big" manual. > I printed mine out, have it in my manual rack, and it is getting > worn out from use. Worn out from use is one of the better things that can happen to a manual. > You may as well print it out. > I have not heard of a new edition pending. Mmmm, I'm also looking for a printed edition of the ConTeXt manual. Does this ML have publishers subscribed that have some VC to burn? Or does see someone else see a possibilty for a ConTeXt book? Geert Stappers signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Context Garden, wiki not accesable
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 03:04:04PM -0500, Jeffrey Drake wrote: > On 3/10/06, Geert Stappers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 01:04:17PM -0500, Jeffrey Drake wrote: > > > On 3/10/06, Taco Hoekwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Jeffrey Drake wrote: > > > > > > > > > > DNS Domain 'www.contextgarden.net' is invalid: Host not found > > > > > (authoritative). > > > > > > > > You can try http://wiki.contextgarden.net directly, maybe? > > > > > > > > > This means that: > > > > > > > > > > The named host probably does not exist. > > > > > > > > Some server along the way is lying, because the host definately does > > > > exist (it has IP 83.151.27.139), and its authoritive nameservers > > > > report the information correctly. > > > > > > I have tried both directly with no success. > > > > Okay, noticed. > > > > Next thing to do is that _you_ fix the network setup at _your end_ > > > I have no understanding of what the problem is to know even what to > say to the network guys. Print this E-mail and bring it to the network guys. They will read this from top to bottom (people tend to read in that order) and will known what to do ( yes, I assume that a network administrator is worth it's money ) Cheers Geert Stappers -- http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/B/bottom-post.html ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Context Garden, wiki not accesable
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 01:04:17PM -0500, Jeffrey Drake wrote: > On 3/10/06, Taco Hoekwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jeffrey Drake wrote: > > > DNS Domain 'www.contextgarden.net' is invalid: Host not found > > > (authoritative). > > > > You can try http://wiki.contextgarden.net directly, maybe? > > > > > This means that: > > > > > > The named host probably does not exist. > > > > Some server along the way is lying, because the host definately does > > exist (it has IP 83.151.27.139), and its authoritive nameservers > > report the information correctly. > > I have tried both directly with no success. Okay, noticed. Next thing to do is that _you_ fix the network setup at _your end_ GSt ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Context Garden, wiki not accesable
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 01:10:48AM -0500, Jeffrey Drake wrote: > Is there any downloadable copy of the Context Garden site that is not > on the Context Garden website? > > At my school unfortunately we don't seem to be able to get through to > context garden wiki. But trying to get into ConTeXt would likely be > much smoother with access to the information. > > Any help is appreciated. I think you need help from the network administrator at _your_ side. Start at least to describe what you (can) see from http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page Mmm, that is allready the URL that you get after going to http://www.contextgarden.net Could it be that you are behind (something like a) webproxy that can't cope with redirects??? Geert Stappers signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] mswincontext.zip installation
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 06:48:50PM -, Keith McKay wrote: > And me to! Thanks! > > Would some kind soul care to write up on the Wiki the best way to update the > windows stand alone version? Please. AFAIK is the Wiki page http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Windows_Installation HtH GSt -- http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/B/bottom-post.html ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context