Re: [NTG-context] Another small caps problem with some fonts (and old-style figures)
Am 24.09.2009 um 17:26 schrieb the.thin.air: there is one method to get oldstyle figures with my module (which i showed him) and should use, if he don't like this method the alternative is to define his own fontfeatures and use them (\set...font[...][features=myfeature]) I do use the method that you suggested. I only reported the problems with the other methods because I didn't know whether the behaviour was expected or caused by some bug that you or Hans might want to know about. But when you want to make sure it's a ConTeXt bug typescripts are a better way, my module has to many other things around them and and it's hard to tell who cause the problem. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Another small caps problem with some fonts (and old-style figures)
2009/9/24 Wolfgang Schuster
>
> Am 24.09.2009 um 14:24 schrieb Hans Hagen:
>
> Mika Ritola wrote:
>>
>> I have to reply to my own mail because I just updated simplefonts and
>>> noticed that the latest version behaves a bit differently. The
>>> [oldstylefigures=yes] option still works perfectly, but now both
>>> \setfontfeature{oldstyle} and \addfontfeaturetoset{oldstyle} result in
>>> small
>>> caps not working at all.
>>>
>>
>> that's for Wolfgang to sort out then (that is: the interaction betweem his
>> settings and dynamic features)
>>
>
> there is one method to get oldstyle figures with my module (which i showed
> him)
> and should use, if he don't like this method the alternative is to define
> his own
> fontfeatures and use them (\set...font[...][features=myfeature])
>
> I do use the method that you suggested. I only reported the problems with
the other methods because I didn't know whether the behaviour was expected
or caused by some bug that you or Hans might want to know about.
Thanks for helping,
Mika
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Re: [NTG-context] Another small caps problem with some fonts (and old-style figures)
Am 24.09.2009 um 14:24 schrieb Hans Hagen:
Mika Ritola wrote:
I have to reply to my own mail because I just updated simplefonts and
noticed that the latest version behaves a bit differently. The
[oldstylefigures=yes] option still works perfectly, but now both
\setfontfeature{oldstyle} and \addfontfeaturetoset{oldstyle} result
in small
caps not working at all.
that's for Wolfgang to sort out then (that is: the interaction
betweem his settings and dynamic features)
there is one method to get oldstyle figures with my module (which i
showed him)
and should use, if he don't like this method the alternative is to
define his own
fontfeatures and use them (\set...font[...][features=myfeature])
as suggested by Hans in a previous mail i enabled node mode by
default, you can
switch back to base mode with \setupsimplefonts[mode=base]
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Another small caps problem with some fonts (and old-style figures)
Mika Ritola wrote:
I have to reply to my own mail because I just updated simplefonts and
noticed that the latest version behaves a bit differently. The
[oldstylefigures=yes] option still works perfectly, but now both
\setfontfeature{oldstyle} and \addfontfeaturetoset{oldstyle} result in small
caps not working at all.
that's for Wolfgang to sort out then (that is: the interaction betweem
his settings and dynamic features)
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Another small caps problem with some fonts (and old-style figures)
2009/9/24 Mika Ritola
> 2009/9/23 Hans Hagen
>
>> Mika Ritola wrote:
>>
>>> 2009/9/22 Wolfgang Schuster
>>>
>>> Am 22.09.2009 um 12:43 schrieb Mika Ritola:
Hello again,
> I just discovered another weird problem with small caps when using some
> fonts, e.g. Adobe Jenson Pro or Adobe Garamond Pro.
>
> When old-style figures are enabled, the code below generates "GEOff"
> instead of "GEOFF". Another ligature bug, it seems -- which is strange
> because I don't see why old-style figures should affect ligatures at
> all
> (not that I know anything about these things), and also because the
> second
> line should disable ligatures in small caps altogether.
>
> \definefontfeature[smallcaps][smallcaps][liga=no]
>
> Did it work with this redefinition of the smallcaps feature?
\definefontfeature[smallcaps][smallcaps][mode=node]
With \setfontfeature{oldstyle}, I don't seem to get any small caps at
>>> all in
>>> node mode. If I replace it with the line that you suggest below, small
>>> caps
>>> seem to work well regardless of mode. So, problem solved for me. Thanks!
>>>
>>
>> does \addfontfeaturetoset{oldstyle} work?
>>
>> That seems to behave the same as \setfontfeature{oldstyle}, i.e. it
> generates "GEOff". And again, I don't get small caps in node mode. So far,
> the only way to get small caps and old-style figures working properly
> together has been to use \setmainfont[Adobe Jenson
> Pro][oldstylefigures=yes], as suggested by Wolfgang.
>
> Here's my current test file, with all the different variations commented
> out:
>
> \usemodule[simplefonts]
> %\setfontfeature{oldstyle}
> %\addfontfeaturetoset{oldstyle}
> \definefontfeature[smallcaps][smallcaps][liga=no]
> %\definefontfeature[smallcaps][smallcaps][mode=node]
> %\setmainfont[Adobe Jenson Pro]
> \setmainfont[Adobe Jenson Pro][oldstylefigures=yes]
>
> \starttext
> {\sc Geoff} % GEOff or GEOFF?
>
> 1954 % do old-style figures work?
> \stoptext
>
I have to reply to my own mail because I just updated simplefonts and
noticed that the latest version behaves a bit differently. The
[oldstylefigures=yes] option still works perfectly, but now both
\setfontfeature{oldstyle} and \addfontfeaturetoset{oldstyle} result in small
caps not working at all.
Mika
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Re: [NTG-context] Another small caps problem with some fonts (and old-style figures)
2009/9/23 Hans Hagen
> Mika Ritola wrote:
>
>> 2009/9/22 Wolfgang Schuster
>>
>> Am 22.09.2009 um 12:43 schrieb Mika Ritola:
>>>
>>> Hello again,
>>>
I just discovered another weird problem with small caps when using some
fonts, e.g. Adobe Jenson Pro or Adobe Garamond Pro.
When old-style figures are enabled, the code below generates "GEOff"
instead of "GEOFF". Another ligature bug, it seems -- which is strange
because I don't see why old-style figures should affect ligatures at all
(not that I know anything about these things), and also because the
second
line should disable ligatures in small caps altogether.
\definefontfeature[smallcaps][smallcaps][liga=no]
Did it work with this redefinition of the smallcaps feature?
>>>
>>> \definefontfeature[smallcaps][smallcaps][mode=node]
>>>
>>> With \setfontfeature{oldstyle}, I don't seem to get any small caps at
>> all in
>> node mode. If I replace it with the line that you suggest below, small
>> caps
>> seem to work well regardless of mode. So, problem solved for me. Thanks!
>>
>
> does \addfontfeaturetoset{oldstyle} work?
>
> That seems to behave the same as \setfontfeature{oldstyle}, i.e. it
generates "GEOff". And again, I don't get small caps in node mode. So far,
the only way to get small caps and old-style figures working properly
together has been to use \setmainfont[Adobe Jenson
Pro][oldstylefigures=yes], as suggested by Wolfgang.
Here's my current test file, with all the different variations commented
out:
\usemodule[simplefonts]
%\setfontfeature{oldstyle}
%\addfontfeaturetoset{oldstyle}
\definefontfeature[smallcaps][smallcaps][liga=no]
%\definefontfeature[smallcaps][smallcaps][mode=node]
%\setmainfont[Adobe Jenson Pro]
\setmainfont[Adobe Jenson Pro][oldstylefigures=yes]
\starttext
{\sc Geoff} % GEOff or GEOFF?
1954 % do old-style figures work?
\stoptext
Mika
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Re: [NTG-context] Another small caps problem with some fonts (and old-style figures)
Mika Ritola wrote:
2009/9/22 Wolfgang Schuster
Am 22.09.2009 um 12:43 schrieb Mika Ritola:
Hello again,
I just discovered another weird problem with small caps when using some
fonts, e.g. Adobe Jenson Pro or Adobe Garamond Pro.
When old-style figures are enabled, the code below generates "GEOff"
instead of "GEOFF". Another ligature bug, it seems -- which is strange
because I don't see why old-style figures should affect ligatures at all
(not that I know anything about these things), and also because the second
line should disable ligatures in small caps altogether.
\definefontfeature[smallcaps][smallcaps][liga=no]
Did it work with this redefinition of the smallcaps feature?
\definefontfeature[smallcaps][smallcaps][mode=node]
With \setfontfeature{oldstyle}, I don't seem to get any small caps at all in
node mode. If I replace it with the line that you suggest below, small caps
seem to work well regardless of mode. So, problem solved for me. Thanks!
does \addfontfeaturetoset{oldstyle} work?
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Another small caps problem with some fonts (and old-style figures)
2009/9/22 Wolfgang Schuster
>
> Am 22.09.2009 um 12:43 schrieb Mika Ritola:
>
> Hello again,
>>
>> I just discovered another weird problem with small caps when using some
>> fonts, e.g. Adobe Jenson Pro or Adobe Garamond Pro.
>>
>> When old-style figures are enabled, the code below generates "GEOff"
>> instead of "GEOFF". Another ligature bug, it seems -- which is strange
>> because I don't see why old-style figures should affect ligatures at all
>> (not that I know anything about these things), and also because the second
>> line should disable ligatures in small caps altogether.
>>
>> \definefontfeature[smallcaps][smallcaps][liga=no]
>>
>
> Did it work with this redefinition of the smallcaps feature?
>
> \definefontfeature[smallcaps][smallcaps][mode=node]
>
With \setfontfeature{oldstyle}, I don't seem to get any small caps at all in
node mode. If I replace it with the line that you suggest below, small caps
seem to work well regardless of mode. So, problem solved for me. Thanks!
\setfontfeature{oldstyle}
>> \setmainfont[Adobe Jenson Pro]
>>
>
> \setmainfont[Adobe Jenson Pro][oldstylefigures=yes]
>
Mika
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Re: [NTG-context] Another small caps problem with some fonts (and old-style figures)
Am 22.09.2009 um 12:43 schrieb Mika Ritola:
Hello again,
I just discovered another weird problem with small caps when using
some fonts, e.g. Adobe Jenson Pro or Adobe Garamond Pro.
When old-style figures are enabled, the code below generates "GEOff"
instead of "GEOFF". Another ligature bug, it seems -- which is
strange because I don't see why old-style figures should affect
ligatures at all (not that I know anything about these things), and
also because the second line should disable ligatures in small caps
altogether.
\definefontfeature[smallcaps][smallcaps][liga=no]
Did it work with this redefinition of the smallcaps feature?
\definefontfeature[smallcaps][smallcaps][mode=node]
\setfontfeature{oldstyle}
\setmainfont[Adobe Jenson Pro]
\setmainfont[Adobe Jenson Pro][oldstylefigures=yes]
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Another small caps problem with some fonts (and old-style figures)
Hello again,
I just discovered another weird problem with small caps when using some
fonts, e.g. Adobe Jenson Pro or Adobe Garamond Pro.
When old-style figures are enabled, the code below generates "GEOff" instead
of "GEOFF". Another ligature bug, it seems -- which is strange because I
don't see why old-style figures should affect ligatures at all (not that I
know anything about these things), and also because the second line should
disable ligatures in small caps altogether.
\usemodule[simplefonts]
\definefontfeature[smallcaps][smallcaps][liga=no]
\setfontfeature{oldstyle}
\setmainfont[Adobe Jenson Pro]
\starttext
{\sc Geoff}
\stoptext
I'm using the latest beta from yesterday. Again, I'd appreciate a workaround
for this, apart from disabling old-style figures.
Thanks,
Mika
P.S. Thanks to everyone who's replied to my bibliography questions. I'll get
back to it as soon as I've had time to try out the suggestions.
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