Re: [NTG-context] Bibliographies in Mark IV

2010-10-22 Thread Hans Hagen

On 21-10-2010 7:52, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:


Indeed. Even though this is a bad example (next time, please send a complete 
working example, not code snippets - I don't have a database Kings.bib here), 
it shows a bug in mkiv. I tried the usual things - add a section command, add 
[criterium=all] to \placepublications, but this didn't help.


So I'll wait till I get a proper test -)

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] Bibliographies in Mark IV

2010-10-22 Thread Charles Doherty
Dear Thomas and Hans,

Thanks for looking at this and apologies for not sending the bib file.  I 
attach a .tex file and a .bib file for Hans to test. I make my .bib file in 
BibDesk on the Mac (the preview style is abbrev). BibDesk uses LaTeX to produce 
the preview and that looks perfect.  

When I run the KingsTest.tex in ConTeXt Minimals Mark II I get proper output (I 
have two extra periods but that is probably my fault). When I run the same file 
using Mark IV I get the title only in the output. 

Thanks for looking into this.
Charlie



KingsTest.tex
Description: TeX document


ShortKings.bib
Description: Binary data



On 22 Oct 2010, at 10:15, Hans Hagen wrote:

 On 21-10-2010 7:52, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
 
 Indeed. Even though this is a bad example (next time, please send a complete 
 working example, not code snippets - I don't have a database Kings.bib 
 here), it shows a bug in mkiv. I tried the usual things - add a section 
 command, add [criterium=all] to \placepublications, but this didn't help.
 
 So I'll wait till I get a proper test -)
 
 Hans
 
 
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Re: [NTG-context] Bibliographies in Mark IV

2010-10-22 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Oct 22, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Charles Doherty wrote:

 Dear Thomas and Hans,
 
 Thanks for looking at this and apologies for not sending the bib file.  I 
 attach a .tex file and a .bib file for Hans to test. I make my .bib file in 
 BibDesk on the Mac (the preview style is abbrev). BibDesk uses LaTeX to 
 produce the preview and that looks perfect.  
 
 When I run the KingsTest.tex in ConTeXt Minimals Mark II I get proper output 
 (I have two extra periods but that is probably my fault). When I run the same 
 file using Mark IV I get the title only in the output. 
 
 Thanks for looking into this.
 Charlie

I was just preparing a test file when yours arrived; this is a good minimal 
example. Hans, one request: to facilitate debugging bib-related problems (which 
seem to occur quite often), could we add one very small example .bib file to 
the minimals under 

context/tex/texmf-context/bibtex/bib

I guess that would make it a lot easier. We can either take Charlie's file or 
one of the many small bib files that come with texlive. My suggestion would be 
to post this bib file on the wiki as well. We could then encourage users to add 
further entries as problems occur.

Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] Bibliographies in Mark IV

2010-10-22 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Friday 22 October 2010 11:38:35 Charles Doherty wrote:
 
 When I run the KingsTest.tex in ConTeXt Minimals Mark II I get proper
 output (I have two extra periods but that is probably my fault). When I
 run the same file using Mark IV I get the title only in the output.
 

The problem appears to be with \setuppublications[criterium=all]
which may be ignored under mkiv.

Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] Bibliographies in Mark IV

2010-10-22 Thread Hans Hagen

On 22-10-2010 12:05, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:


On Oct 22, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Charles Doherty wrote:


Dear Thomas and Hans,

Thanks for looking at this and apologies for not sending the bib file.  I 
attach a .tex file and a .bib file for Hans to test. I make my .bib file in 
BibDesk on the Mac (the preview style is abbrev). BibDesk uses LaTeX to produce 
the preview and that looks perfect.

When I run the KingsTest.tex in ConTeXt Minimals Mark II I get proper output (I 
have two extra periods but that is probably my fault). When I run the same file 
using Mark IV I get the title only in the output.

Thanks for looking into this.
Charlie


I was just preparing a test file when yours arrived; this is a good minimal 
example. Hans, one request: to facilitate debugging bib-related problems (which 
seem to occur quite often), could we add one very small example .bib file to 
the minimals under

context/tex/texmf-context/bibtex/bib

I guess that would make it a lot easier. We can either take Charlie's file or 
one of the many small bib files that come with texlive. My suggestion would be 
to post this bib file on the wiki as well. We could then encourage users to add 
further entries as problems occur.


we could have a bib file that describes all context related publications 
but someone has to volunteer for that


Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Bibliographies in Mark IV

2010-10-22 Thread Hans Hagen

On 22-10-2010 11:38, Charles Doherty wrote:

Dear Thomas and Hans,

Thanks for looking at this and apologies for not sending the bib file.  I 
attach a .tex file and a .bib file for Hans to test. I make my .bib file in 
BibDesk on the Mac (the preview style is abbrev). BibDesk uses LaTeX to produce 
the preview and that looks perfect.

When I run the KingsTest.tex in ConTeXt Minimals Mark II I get proper output (I 
have two extra periods but that is probably my fault). When I run the same file 
using Mark IV I get the title only in the output.


fixed in next beta ... it probably never worked in mkiv so it went 
unnoticed quite long



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Re: [NTG-context] Bibliographies in Mark IV

2010-10-22 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Oct 22, 2010, at 3:51 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

 we could have a bib file that describes all context related publications but 
 someone has to volunteer for that
 
 Hans

You mean we have to wait till Idris finishes THE BOOK?

Seriously: we need a sample of different publication forms - books, articles, 
incollections, electronical, etc. I'm quite willing to do this, but we need to 
have as much diversity as possible, 20 manuals from the pragma website is not 
yet a good test bed :-)

Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] Bibliographies in Mark IV

2010-10-22 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Oct 22, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

 fixed in next beta ... it probably never worked in mkiv so it went unnoticed 
 quite long
 

Excellent - works now! Charles should look into the output; those spurious 
periods are not quite right, but I don't have time now to look into them.

Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] Bibliographies in Mark IV

2010-10-22 Thread Hans Hagen

On 22-10-2010 6:42, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:


On Oct 22, 2010, at 3:51 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:


we could have a bib file that describes all context related publications but 
someone has to volunteer for that

Hans


You mean we have to wait till Idris finishes THE BOOK?

Seriously: we need a sample of different publication forms - books, articles, 
incollections, electronical, etc. I'm quite willing to do this, but we need to 
have as much diversity as possible, 20 manuals from the pragma website is not 
yet a good test bed :-)


we have your articles, tutorials etc -)

anyhow, just cook up something usable .. (after all, you were going to 
update the bib manual)


Hans

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[NTG-context] Bibliographies in Mark IV

2010-10-20 Thread Charles Doherty
Dear all,

The file below produces a bibliography using Mark II but only a title when 
using Mark IV. Have things changed or do I need a new approach? I am using 
Minimals.

Thanks,
Charlie

 \usemodule[bib]
 \setuppublications[criterium=all,numbering=no]

\setupbibtex[database={Kings},sort=author]
  
\starttext 

\midaligned{\tfa Kingship References}

\blank[2*big]

\placepublications

\stoptext 
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Re: [NTG-context] Bibliographies in Mark IV

2010-10-20 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Oct 20, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Charles Doherty wrote:

 Dear all,
 
 The file below produces a bibliography using Mark II but only a title when 
 using Mark IV. Have things changed or do I need a new approach? I am using 
 Minimals.
 
 Thanks,
 Charlie
 
 \usemodule[bib]
 \setuppublications[criterium=all,numbering=no]
 
 \setupbibtex[database={Kings},sort=author]
 
 \starttext 
 
 \midaligned{\tfa Kingship References}
 
 \blank[2*big]
 
 \placepublications
 
 \stoptext 

Indeed. Even though this is a bad example (next time, please send a complete 
working example, not code snippets - I don't have a database Kings.bib here), 
it shows a bug in mkiv. I tried the usual things - add a section command, add 
[criterium=all] to \placepublications, but this didn't help.

Thomas

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