Re: [NTG-context] CMYK colors not as expected

2011-06-29 Thread luigi scarso
2011/6/28 Hans van der Meer h.vanderm...@uva.nl

 I would be pleased to get some advice from color-knowledgeable people on
 the following matter.

 In TV-broadcasts there are usually two kinds of subtitles present: Teletext
 as characters and DVB as pixels. These can be extracted and rendered with
 Metapost. I have done this, but I am not very satisfied with the colors
 produced. On the television screen they look bright, when rendered in
 Metapost they are dull and muddy. The text is barely readable.

 As I am fairly sure I did extract the correct bits from the CLUT contained
 in the stream, I wonder if I am doing something not right at the Metapost
 side. In the datastream the values given are the most significant 6, 4, 4
 and 2 bits of respectively Y, Cr, Cb, T. These are scaled to the values
 given to Metapost by dividing them by 255.

 In the zip one finds the program (ConTeXt MKIV) used for typesetting, an
 example pixel map with clut, and the output. I would be obliged to get some
 comments.


 have you already seen
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YCbCr
?
-- 
luigi
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Re: [NTG-context] CMYK colors not as expected

2011-06-29 Thread Hans Hagen

On 28-6-2011 2:06, Hans van der Meer wrote:

I would be pleased to get some advice from color-knowledgeable people on the 
following matter.

In TV-broadcasts there are usually two kinds of subtitles present: Teletext as 
characters and DVB as pixels. These can be extracted and rendered with 
Metapost. I have done this, but I am not very satisfied with the colors 
produced. On the television screen they look bright, when rendered in Metapost 
they are dull and muddy. The text is barely readable.

As I am fairly sure I did extract the correct bits from the CLUT contained in 
the stream, I wonder if I am doing something not right at the Metapost side. In 
the datastream the values given are the most significant 6, 4, 4 and 2 bits of 
respectively Y, Cr, Cb, T. These are scaled to the values given to Metapost by 
dividing them by 255.

In the zip one finds the program (ConTeXt MKIV) used for typesetting, an 
example pixel map with clut, and the output. I would be obliged to get some 
comments.


As you're doing a lot of calculations, you can consider using bitmaps

\starttext

\startMPpage
draw
bitmapimage(2,2,334455 667788 99aabb ccddee)
scaled 3cm
rotated 15 ;
draw
bitmapimage(2,2,33 55 77 99)
scaled 2cm
rotated 30 ;
draw
bitmapimage(2,2,ff00 ff00ff00 00ff )
scaled 1cm
rotated 45 ;
\stopMPpage

\stoptext


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Re: [NTG-context] CMYK colors not as expected

2011-06-29 Thread Taco Hoekwater


On 06/29/11 08:08, luigi scarso wrote:
 
 
 have you already seen 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YCbCr

As luigi says, the Y/Cb/Cr (with or without T) is not
CMYK, it is a different kind of color space altogether,
and is conceptually much closer to RGB than to CMYK.

The wiki page has equations to convert YCbCr to RGB.
I have no idea what the 'K' component in your CLUT
is supposed to be.

Best wishes,
Taco

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