Re: [NTG-context] ConTEXt - produced book about ConTeXt

2008-04-09 Thread Maurice Diamantini

Le 8 avr. 08 à 22:48, Gour a écrit :

 Henning How about a list of books (or everything else) made with
 Henning ConTeXt?

 How about to make book about ConTeXt?

:-)))

I guess that with the upcomming luatex, mkiv or other lua-metapost,  
there
will never be a context book!?
... but I hope there will be a mark (or any next conTeXt name) book

ConTeXt is not a simple language library, but a full typing system
which need a true documentation.
So, even if a command reference could be read online (or in source  
code ;-),
An extended user manual (e.g. equivalent to the old manual + the  
official
tabular system, + ...) is still needed.

A ConTeXt book would provide a stable base for learning ConTeXt.
The ConTeXt version would also serve as basis for features, and any
future online docs could be classified as before (read obsolete)
or after the context book.

Also all ConTeXt features from the book should be suppose to work
except if mentioned in an online correction documentation.

P.S.
I don't use any more ConTeXt for some raison (I come back to LaTex)
But I keep looking at the mailing list and I hope to come back to  
ConTeXt
some months later.
I keep thinking that ConTeXt is the future of LaTeX!

-- Maurice

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTEXt - produced book about ConTeXt

2008-04-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Maurice Diamantini
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Le 8 avr. 08 à 22:48, Gour a écrit :

  Henning How about a list of books (or everything else) made with
  Henning ConTeXt?
 
  How about to make book about ConTeXt?

 :-)))

 I guess that with the upcomming luatex, mkiv or other lua-metapost,
 there will never be a context book!?

Why, the interface will not change, you shouldn't notice any difference
between pdfTeX, XeTeX or LuaTeX.

MkIV has a new method (xml setups) to use XML files but the old one
(xml definitions) could be used without problems.

Font setup changed slightly with MkIV but this happened also for XeTeX
a few times in the past.

The rest conceirns only bug fixes or new features.

 ... but I hope there will be a mark (or any next conTeXt name) book

http://www.pragma-ade.com/show-man-41.htm

 ConTeXt is not a simple language library, but a full typing system
 which need a true documentation.
 So, even if a command reference could be read online (or in source
 code ;-),

http://www.pragma-ade.com/show-man-10.htm

 An extended user manual (e.g. equivalent to the old manual + the
 official tabular system, + ...) is still needed.

You could try to merge the big manual and the starter manual.

The sources are available only.

 A ConTeXt book would provide a stable base for learning ConTeXt.
 The ConTeXt version would also serve as basis for features, and any
 future online docs could be classified as before (read obsolete)
 or after the context book.

None of ConTeXt's manuals are obsolete, the big manuals provides
the basic for daily works and the other manual cover special topics
like colummns, integrations of MetaPost ...

 Also all ConTeXt features from the book should be suppose to work
 except if mentioned in an online correction documentation.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTEXt - produced book about ConTeXt

2008-04-09 Thread luigi scarso
  ConTeXt is not a simple language library, but a full typing system
  which need a true documentation.
True
  So, even if a command reference could be read online (or in source
  code ;-),
True;
actually there is something at
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/User:Luigi.scarso/modules.pdf
but I'm (slowly) changing it

  P.S.
  I don't use any more ConTeXt for some raison (I come back to LaTex)
:(
  But I keep looking at the mailing list and I hope to come back to
  ConTeXt
  some months later.
:)
  I keep thinking that ConTeXt is the future of LaTeX!
True
-- 
luigi
it's new .
it's powerful .
it's luatex .
http://www.luatex.org
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTEXt - produced book about ConTeXt

2008-04-09 Thread Hans Hagen
Maurice Diamantini wrote:
 Le 8 avr. 08 à 22:48, Gour a écrit :
 
 Henning How about a list of books (or everything else) made with
 Henning ConTeXt?

 How about to make book about ConTeXt?
 
 :-)))
 
 I guess that with the upcomming luatex, mkiv or other lua-metapost,  
 there
 will never be a context book!?
  but I hope there will be a mark (or any next conTeXt name) book

mkii and mkiv are just version tags, it's still context

if there is to be a book, it will be about context mkiv (less hassle 
with  encodings and funny chars and ...)

Hans

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