Re: [NTG-context] Font expansion enabled by default with the latest upload

2022-11-21 Thread Max Chernoff via ntg-context

Hi Hans,

> what you observe is likely a side effect of an increase in accuracy 
> which gives a bit less drift in the pdf; expansion is turned off (it 
> would increase runtime if turned on)

It's not just in the PDF though, I can also see the change from Lua.

Using this document:

   \showframe
   
   % \definefontfeature[default][default][expansion=quality]
   % \usetypescript[modern-base]
   % \setupbodyfont[reset,modern]
   % \setupalign[hz]
   
   \startluacode
   function userdata.test(head)
   local last_line = node.tail(head)
   local i = 1
   for n in node.traverse(node.tail(last_line.list), true) do
   print(n)
   if n.id == node.id("glue") then
   print(node.effectiveglue(n, last_line) / 65536)
   elseif n.width then
   print(n.width / 65536)
   end
   
   if i >= 6 then
   break
   else
   i = i + 1
   end
   end
   
   return head
   end
   
   nodes.tasks.appendaction("finalizers", "after", "userdata.test")
   nodes.tasks.enableaction("finalizers", "userdata.test")
   \stopluacode
   
   \starttext
   Hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
   hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
   hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
   hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
   hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
   hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
   hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
   hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
   hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
   hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
   hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
   hello hello hello.%
   \ctxlua{nodes.tasks.enableaction("finalizers", "userdata.test")}
   
   \ctxlua{nodes.tasks.disableaction("finalizers", "userdata.test")}
   \stoptext

(A) With the expansion lines commented/default on ConTeXt "2022.11.18
13:22" I get:

   nil : glue righthangskip>
   0.0
 13299 : glue rightskip>
   0.0
 13263 : glue parfillskip>
   0.0
 12877 : penalty linepenalty>
  1687 : glyph unset>
   3.3341674804688
 12850 : glyph unset>
   5.9967041015625
   
(B) With the expansion lines uncommented/enabled on ConTeXt "2022.11.18
13:22" I get:

   nil : glue righthangskip>
   0.0
 13992 : glue rightskip>
   0.0
 13956 : glue parfillskip>
   0.046096801757812
 12877 : penalty linepenalty>
  1687 : glyph unset>
   3.3341674804688
 12850 : glyph unset>
   5.9967041015625
   
(C) With the expansion lines commented/default live.contextgarden.net I
get:

   nil : glue righthangskip>
   0.0
 10943 : glue rightskip>
   0.0
 10909 : glue parfillskip>
   6.6463470458984
 10138 : penalty linepenalty>
   524 : glyph 32768>
   3.26220703125
 10119 : glyph 32768>
   5.8767700195312

(D) And with the expansion lines uncommented/enabled on
live.contextgarden.net I get:

   nil : glue righthangskip>
   0.0
 11195 : glue rightskip>
   0.0
 11161 : glue parfillskip>
   0.046096801757812
 10138 : penalty linepenalty>
   524 : glyph 32768>
   3.3341674804688
 10119 : glyph 32768>
   5.9967041015625

A, B, and D all have almost the same \parfillskip widths, and the exact
same "." and "o" widths. But comparing A/B/D to C, there's a 6.6pt
difference in the \parfillskip values and a 0.12pt difference between
the "o" widths.

Maybe it's just a coincidence, but it seems odd that enabling expansion
makes no difference with the latest version (A/B) and that latest with
no expansion (A) gives identical results to the old version with
expansion (D). Plus, a 6.6pt difference in glue lengths seems like a lot
for an accuracy change.

I could very easily be wrong here, but something seems off to me.

Thanks,
-- Max
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Re: [NTG-context] Font expansion enabled by default with the latest upload

2022-11-21 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context

On 11/21/2022 10:20 AM, Max Chernoff via ntg-context wrote:

Hi Hans,

Font expansion (hz) seems to be enabled by default with the latest
upload.

If I compile this document locally with ConTeXt "2022.11.18 13:22":

\showframe

% \definefontfeature[default][default][expansion=quality]

% \usetypescript[modern-base]
% \setupbodyfont[reset,modern]
% \setupalign[hz]

\starttext

Hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
hello hello hello.
\stoptext

I get slightly different spacing than I do when I compile the same
document on live.contextgarden.net. If I compile the document with the
lines uncommitted on live.contextgarden.net, I get the same results as I
do on my local installation with the lines commented.

Personally, I think that enabling hz expansion by default is probably a
good thing, but this change will affect a very large number of documents
and you never mentioned it in the announcement email, so I suspect that
it was accidentally added when you added the math hz.
what you observe is likely a side effect of an increase in accuracy 
which gives a bit less drift in the pdf; expansion is turned off (it 
would increase runtime if turned on)


(increased accuracy was indeed a side effect of math but more to get rid 
of an annoyance at extreme resolutions)


Hans


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[NTG-context] Font expansion enabled by default with the latest upload

2022-11-21 Thread Max Chernoff via ntg-context
Hi Hans,

Font expansion (hz) seems to be enabled by default with the latest
upload. 

If I compile this document locally with ConTeXt "2022.11.18 13:22":

   \showframe
   
   % \definefontfeature[default][default][expansion=quality]
   % \usetypescript[modern-base]
   % \setupbodyfont[reset,modern]
   % \setupalign[hz]
   
   \starttext
   Hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
   hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
   hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
   hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
   hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
   hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
   hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
   hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
   hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
   hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
   hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello hello
   hello hello hello.
   \stoptext

I get slightly different spacing than I do when I compile the same
document on live.contextgarden.net. If I compile the document with the
lines uncommitted on live.contextgarden.net, I get the same results as I
do on my local installation with the lines commented.

Personally, I think that enabling hz expansion by default is probably a
good thing, but this change will affect a very large number of documents
and you never mentioned it in the announcement email, so I suspect that
it was accidentally added when you added the math hz.

Thanks,
-- Max
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