Re: [NTG-context] Fw: A question about layers

2011-07-17 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 16.07.2011 um 19:35 schrieb Marcin Borkowski:

 Anybody help, please...?

Layers are objects which can be placed on any place of the page.

The difference between \setupbackgrounds and \flushlayer can be
seen in the example below. With \setupbackground the layer content
is put on the requested position (behind the text) after TeX has
finished the page. With \flushlayer ConTeXt starts a new page where
all collected layers are placed without any other text.

\definelayer[one]
\definelayer[two]

\setupbackgrounds[text][text][background=one]

\starttext

\input ward

\setlayer[one][x=3cm,y=3cm]{\tt One}

\page

\setlayer[two][x=3cm,y=3cm]{\tt Two}

\input ward

\flushlayer[two]

\input ward

\stoptext

As your plan is to make a document with layers only \flushlayer
is the better choice because you can do this:

\definelayer[content]

\definestartstop
  [PAGE]
  [after={\flushlayer[content]}]

\setuplayout[page]

\starttext

\startPAGE

\setlayer[content][x=3cm,y=4cm]{A}

\setlayerframed[content][x=7cm,y=2cm,frame=off,foregroundcolor=blue]{B}

\stopPAGE

\startPAGE

\setlayer[content][x=3cm,y=8cm]{\externalfigure[cow]}

\stopPAGE

\stoptext

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] Fw: A question about layers

2011-07-17 Thread Willi Egger
In addition to my previous mail there is also an article published in the 
MAPS39 which shows an example of using layers.
You can download it from here : http://www.ntg.nl/maps/39/ (Willi Egger, 
Decorating CD-ROMs and DVDs (English), MAPS 39, 2009, 59-71)

Willi
On 16 Jul 2011, at 19:35, Marcin Borkowski wrote:

 Anybody help, please...?
 
 Dnia 2011-07-14, o godz. 23:37:29
 Marcin Borkowski mb...@wmi.amu.edu.pl napisał(a):
 
 I think that the general problem is that I have a wrong conceptual
 model of layers in ConTeXt.  You know, when I hear the word layer,
 I have some ideas about how it should/could/might work, and probably
 these ideas are different than Hans'.  So I'm going to briefly
 describe my idea (already modified by the answers) and please tell me
 what's wrong with it.
 
 So I imagine that \definelayer / \setuplayer defines a rectangular
 shape on the page, possibly framed/colored/etc., which is going to
 appear on all pages (default) or on selected ones.  The contents of
 layers are set with \setlayer, (with some - mysterious for me -
 setups trickery if they are going to change from page to page), and
 they are actually put on the page by \setupbackgrounds.  (And I have
 no idea what \flushlayer does in this conceptual framework.)  So
 layers are actually kind of beneath ordinary page contents.
 
 Some of these commands (which ones?) should moreover be placed before
 \startext.
 
 OK, so where am I right and where am I wrong now?
 
 Best
 
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 Marcin Borkowski
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Re: [NTG-context] Fw: A question about layers

2011-07-16 Thread Marcin Borkowski
Anybody help, please...?

Dnia 2011-07-14, o godz. 23:37:29
Marcin Borkowski mb...@wmi.amu.edu.pl napisał(a):

 I think that the general problem is that I have a wrong conceptual
 model of layers in ConTeXt.  You know, when I hear the word layer,
 I have some ideas about how it should/could/might work, and probably
 these ideas are different than Hans'.  So I'm going to briefly
 describe my idea (already modified by the answers) and please tell me
 what's wrong with it.
 
 So I imagine that \definelayer / \setuplayer defines a rectangular
 shape on the page, possibly framed/colored/etc., which is going to
 appear on all pages (default) or on selected ones.  The contents of
 layers are set with \setlayer, (with some - mysterious for me -
 setups trickery if they are going to change from page to page), and
 they are actually put on the page by \setupbackgrounds.  (And I have
 no idea what \flushlayer does in this conceptual framework.)  So
 layers are actually kind of beneath ordinary page contents.
 
 Some of these commands (which ones?) should moreover be placed before
 \startext.
 
 OK, so where am I right and where am I wrong now?

Best

-- 
Marcin Borkowski
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Re: [NTG-context] Fw: A question about layers

2011-07-16 Thread Willi Egger
Hi,

the easiest way to get info is to read details.pdf and the new metafun-manual.

Willi
On 16 Jul 2011, at 19:35, Marcin Borkowski wrote:

 Anybody help, please...?
 
 Dnia 2011-07-14, o godz. 23:37:29
 Marcin Borkowski mb...@wmi.amu.edu.pl napisał(a):
 
 I think that the general problem is that I have a wrong conceptual
 model of layers in ConTeXt.  You know, when I hear the word layer,
 I have some ideas about how it should/could/might work, and probably
 these ideas are different than Hans'.  So I'm going to briefly
 describe my idea (already modified by the answers) and please tell me
 what's wrong with it.
 
 So I imagine that \definelayer / \setuplayer defines a rectangular
 shape on the page, possibly framed/colored/etc., which is going to
 appear on all pages (default) or on selected ones.  The contents of
 layers are set with \setlayer, (with some - mysterious for me -
 setups trickery if they are going to change from page to page), and
 they are actually put on the page by \setupbackgrounds.  (And I have
 no idea what \flushlayer does in this conceptual framework.)  So
 layers are actually kind of beneath ordinary page contents.
 
 Some of these commands (which ones?) should moreover be placed before
 \startext.
 
 OK, so where am I right and where am I wrong now?
 
 Best
 
 -- 
 Marcin Borkowski
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[NTG-context] Fw: A question about layers

2011-07-14 Thread Marcin Borkowski
I am sorry, Hans, I sent this (and the next message) to you instead of
to the list.  Here's a forward:

Dnia 2011-07-14, czw o godzinie 16:29 +0200, Hans Hagen pisze:
 On 14-7-2011 4:25, Marcin Borkowski wrote:
  OK,
 
  after a pm from Mojca concerning my previous question I decided to
  look into the layers mechanism.
 
  It won't work for me - just nothing shows up.
 
  What am I doing wrong?
 
  Here's a minimal example:
 
  \starttext
  \definelayer[title][x=105mm,y=20mm]
  \setlayer[title]{This is the title.}
  \stoptext
 
  (I'd also like to be able to anchor the title so that
  (105mm,20mm) are the coordinates of the center, not the lower-left
  corner etc.  How to do that?)
 
 \flushlayer[title]

Thanks too; but again, what does this do exactly?

(Sorry for asking dumb questions, but I'd like to understand the
underlying mechanism, not only learn how to use it...)

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[NTG-context] Fw: A question about layers

2011-07-14 Thread Marcin Borkowski
And the second message accidentally sent to Hans:

Dnia 2011-07-14, czw o godzinie 16:29 +0200, Hans Hagen pisze:
 On 14-7-2011 4:25, Marcin Borkowski wrote:
  OK,
 
  after a pm from Mojca concerning my previous question I decided to
  look into the layers mechanism.
 
  It won't work for me - just nothing shows up.
 
  What am I doing wrong?
 
  Here's a minimal example:
 
  \starttext
  \definelayer[title][x=105mm,y=20mm]
  \setlayer[title]{This is the title.}
  \stoptext
 
  (I'd also like to be able to anchor the title so that
  (105mm,20mm) are the coordinates of the center, not the lower-left
  corner etc.  How to do that?)
 
 \flushlayer[title]
 
 etc (some styles in the distributions have examples)

I think that the general problem is that I have a wrong conceptual model
of layers in ConTeXt.  You know, when I hear the word layer, I have
some ideas about how it should/could/might work, and probably these
ideas are different than Hans'.  So I'm going to briefly describe my
idea (already modified by the answers) and please tell me what's wrong
with it.

So I imagine that \definelayer / \setuplayer defines a rectangular shape
on the page, possibly framed/colored/etc., which is going to appear on
all pages (default) or on selected ones.  The contents of layers are set
with \setlayer, (with some - mysterious for me - setups trickery if
they are going to change from page to page), and they are actually put
on the page by \setupbackgrounds.  (And I have no idea what \flushlayer
does in this conceptual framework.)  So layers are actually kind of
beneath ordinary page contents.

Some of these commands (which ones?) should moreover be placed before
\startext.

OK, so where am I right and where am I wrong now?


-- 
Marcin Borkowski
http://mbork.pl


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