Re: [NTG-context] Fwd: Re: roadmap

[Hans Hagen]

On 5/16/2018 7:59 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:

On 05/16/2018 05:37 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

[...]
actually it was something that came up when talking with Hermann Zapf
years ago: he suggested to just vertically scale the text area (i
actully implemented that an hour later) ... his opinion was that only a
very small percentage of readers will notice (at that time we did
experiments with hz, the expansion in pdftex: in fact nobody noticed
that too, real interesting was that texies commented on all kind of
things related to how tex is supposed to work: a clear demonstration
that the average user knows what the virtues of tex are but not really
sees it)

[...]
How can I use the vertical scale feature to prevent widows and orphans?
not now ... it was a mkii experiment more than a decade ago


Would it be possible to have it in MkIV?

Many thanks for your help,
probably but not today (and i need to think about it first as it might 
have side effects


Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] Fwd: Re: roadmap

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 05/16/2018 05:37 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> actually it was something that came up when talking with Hermann Zapf
>>> years ago: he suggested to just vertically scale the text area (i
>>> actully implemented that an hour later) ... his opinion was that only a
>>> very small percentage of readers will notice (at that time we did
>>> experiments with hz, the expansion in pdftex: in fact nobody noticed
>>> that too, real interesting was that texies commented on all kind of
>>> things related to how tex is supposed to work: a clear demonstration
>>> that the average user knows what the virtues of tex are but not really
>>> sees it)
>> [...]
>> How can I use the vertical scale feature to prevent widows and orphans?
>> not now ... it was a mkii experiment more than a decade ago

Would it be possible to have it in MkIV?

Many thanks for your help,

Pablo
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[NTG-context] Fwd: Re: roadmap

[Hans Hagen]

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Subject: Re: [NTG-context] roadmap
Date: Wed, 16 May 2018 17:37:30 +0200
From: Hans Hagen 
To: Pablo Rodriguez 

On 5/16/2018 5:18 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:

On 05/15/2018 11:26 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 5/15/2018 9:17 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:

[...]
Hans,

I wonder whether it would be possible to implement a feature that you
mentioned in the past.

In order to avoid widow and orphan lines, you mentioned that it would be
possible to automatically adapt the interline space for the page, so
that it may have one more line to avoid orphans (when interline space is
decreased) or it may move a line to the next page to avoid widows
(increasing the interline space in the present page).

Would it be possible to add this feature to ConTeXt?


actually it was something that came up when talking with Hermann Zapf
years ago: he suggested to just vertically scale the text area (i
actully implemented that an hour later) ... his opinion was that only a
very small percentage of readers will notice (at that time we did
experiments with hz, the expansion in pdftex: in fact nobody noticed
that too, real interesting was that texies commented on all kind of
things related to how tex is supposed to work: a clear demonstration
that the average user knows what the virtues of tex are but not really
sees it)


I must confess that I can recognize hanging characters, but quality
expansion is impossible to see (at least, for me).

I would even say that if expansion can be seen by a human reader, the
results will be crappy.

How can I use the vertical scale feature to prevent widows and orphans?

not now ... it was a mkii experiment more than a decade ago

Hans


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