Re: [NTG-context] Most portable font name

2012-05-18 Thread Philipp Gesang
On 2012-05-18 00:00, Hans Hagen wrote:
 On 17-5-2012 16:11, Philipp Gesang wrote:
 
 So I judged that my preferred choice might not be as good as I
 think. I got cold feet and am about to remove the slide where I
 recommend the PS name (I can do that later anyways). Is there --
 apart from personal opinions -- some valid reason to prefer one
 name over the other *in general*?
 
 For a project that has to run for a long time, I prefer filenames
 (file:). When fonts are stable names can be used too and the name
 resolved will check several names in the font. Spaces are ignored
 and names are lowercases. There's also some fallback name
 construction going on. Anyhow, the biggest problem is with fonts
 that have the same names (but different files).

I see. But even the filename can be treacherous: afair there is a
times.ttf among the MS core fonts but it’s different from the one
shipped with their office tools. The font name guessing, otoh,
seems pretty elaborate, though I have not had the opportunity to
look at it in detail.

 You can get some
 info when you run
 
 mtxrun --script font --all --list pal
 
 which shows all fonts with pal in the name(s)

... made me just appreciate how many great fonts come with the
minimals.

Thanks
Philipp


 
 Hans
 
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Re: [NTG-context] Most portable font name

2012-05-18 Thread Hans Hagen

On 18-5-2012 08:20, Philipp Gesang wrote:

On 2012-05-18 00:00, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 17-5-2012 16:11, Philipp Gesang wrote:


So I judged that my preferred choice might not be as good as I
think. I got cold feet and am about to remove the slide where I
recommend the PS name (I can do that later anyways). Is there --
apart from personal opinions -- some valid reason to prefer one
name over the other *in general*?


For a project that has to run for a long time, I prefer filenames
(file:). When fonts are stable names can be used too and the name
resolved will check several names in the font. Spaces are ignored
and names are lowercases. There's also some fallback name
construction going on. Anyhow, the biggest problem is with fonts
that have the same names (but different files).


I see. But even the filename can be treacherous: afair there is a
times.ttf among the MS core fonts but it’s different from the one
shipped with their office tools. The font name guessing, otoh,
seems pretty elaborate, though I have not had the opportunity to
look at it in detail.


I always put such fonts in tex/texmf-fonts/fonts/data so that I'm sure 
what gets used.


Hans




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Re: [NTG-context] Most portable font name

2012-05-17 Thread Hans Hagen

On 17-5-2012 16:11, Philipp Gesang wrote:


So I judged that my preferred choice might not be as good as I
think. I got cold feet and am about to remove the slide where I
recommend the PS name (I can do that later anyways). Is there --
apart from personal opinions -- some valid reason to prefer one
name over the other *in general*?


For a project that has to run for a long time, I prefer filenames 
(file:). When fonts are stable names can be used too and the name 
resolved will check several names in the font. Spaces are ignored and 
names are lowercases. There's also some fallback name construction going 
on. Anyhow, the biggest problem is with fonts that have the same names 
(but different files). You can get some info when you run


mtxrun --script font --all --list pal

which shows all fonts with pal in the name(s)

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Most portable font name

2012-05-17 Thread Bill Meahan
It *appears* things like hyphens and underscores are also ignored in 
addition to ignoring spaces. Is that correct?


When I do :

[wwm@Linden]$ mtxrun  --script fonts --list --info --all pattern=MyFont*


 and compare against some existing typescripts I see the filename in 
the typescript is something like:  file:myfontname whereas the 
system filename is /path/to/font/My_Font-Name.otf


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On 05/17/2012 18:00, Hans Hagen wrote:


For a project that has to run for a long time, I prefer filenames 
(file:). When fonts are stable names can be used too and the name 
resolved will check several names in the font. Spaces are ignored and 
names are lowercases.



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Re: [NTG-context] Most portable font name

2012-05-17 Thread Hans Hagen

On 18-5-2012 00:16, Bill Meahan wrote:

It *appears* things like hyphens and underscores are also ignored in
addition to ignoring spaces. Is that correct?


indeed


typescript is something like: file:myfontname whereas the system
filename is /path/to/font/My_Font-Name.otf


indeed

Hans

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