Re: [NTG-context] Most portable font name
On 2012-05-18 00:00, Hans Hagen wrote: On 17-5-2012 16:11, Philipp Gesang wrote: So I judged that my preferred choice might not be as good as I think. I got cold feet and am about to remove the slide where I recommend the PS name (I can do that later anyways). Is there -- apart from personal opinions -- some valid reason to prefer one name over the other *in general*? For a project that has to run for a long time, I prefer filenames (file:). When fonts are stable names can be used too and the name resolved will check several names in the font. Spaces are ignored and names are lowercases. There's also some fallback name construction going on. Anyhow, the biggest problem is with fonts that have the same names (but different files). I see. But even the filename can be treacherous: afair there is a times.ttf among the MS core fonts but it’s different from the one shipped with their office tools. The font name guessing, otoh, seems pretty elaborate, though I have not had the opportunity to look at it in detail. You can get some info when you run mtxrun --script font --all --list pal which shows all fonts with pal in the name(s) ... made me just appreciate how many great fonts come with the minimals. Thanks Philipp Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments pgpeyUnQFRxgn.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Most portable font name
On 18-5-2012 08:20, Philipp Gesang wrote: On 2012-05-18 00:00, Hans Hagen wrote: On 17-5-2012 16:11, Philipp Gesang wrote: So I judged that my preferred choice might not be as good as I think. I got cold feet and am about to remove the slide where I recommend the PS name (I can do that later anyways). Is there -- apart from personal opinions -- some valid reason to prefer one name over the other *in general*? For a project that has to run for a long time, I prefer filenames (file:). When fonts are stable names can be used too and the name resolved will check several names in the font. Spaces are ignored and names are lowercases. There's also some fallback name construction going on. Anyhow, the biggest problem is with fonts that have the same names (but different files). I see. But even the filename can be treacherous: afair there is a times.ttf among the MS core fonts but it’s different from the one shipped with their office tools. The font name guessing, otoh, seems pretty elaborate, though I have not had the opportunity to look at it in detail. I always put such fonts in tex/texmf-fonts/fonts/data so that I'm sure what gets used. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Most portable font name
On 17-5-2012 16:11, Philipp Gesang wrote: So I judged that my preferred choice might not be as good as I think. I got cold feet and am about to remove the slide where I recommend the PS name (I can do that later anyways). Is there -- apart from personal opinions -- some valid reason to prefer one name over the other *in general*? For a project that has to run for a long time, I prefer filenames (file:). When fonts are stable names can be used too and the name resolved will check several names in the font. Spaces are ignored and names are lowercases. There's also some fallback name construction going on. Anyhow, the biggest problem is with fonts that have the same names (but different files). You can get some info when you run mtxrun --script font --all --list pal which shows all fonts with pal in the name(s) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Most portable font name
It *appears* things like hyphens and underscores are also ignored in addition to ignoring spaces. Is that correct? When I do : [wwm@Linden]$ mtxrun --script fonts --list --info --all pattern=MyFont* and compare against some existing typescripts I see the filename in the typescript is something like: file:myfontname whereas the system filename is /path/to/font/My_Font-Name.otf ksh93 on FreeBSD 9.0-i386 + texlive 2011 Bill Meahan K8QN I want to live other lives. I've never quite believed that one chance is all I get. Writing is my way of making other chances. -- Anne Tyler On 05/17/2012 18:00, Hans Hagen wrote: For a project that has to run for a long time, I prefer filenames (file:). When fonts are stable names can be used too and the name resolved will check several names in the font. Spaces are ignored and names are lowercases. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Most portable font name
On 18-5-2012 00:16, Bill Meahan wrote: It *appears* things like hyphens and underscores are also ignored in addition to ignoring spaces. Is that correct? indeed typescript is something like: file:myfontname whereas the system filename is /path/to/font/My_Font-Name.otf indeed Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___