Re: [NTG-context] Paragraph internal graphic/layout inquiry.
On 7/13/05, Hartmut Henkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Taco Hoekwater wrote: David Wooten wrote: Mr. Tufte has an interesting example from da Vinci: http:// trichotomic.net/Leonardo.jpg (76k). Is this type of layout currently possible (or perhaps a better question, wieldy) within ConTeXt? In a standard TeX installation, it is not possible to make this type of paragraph without massive amounts of manual intervention, because TeX's paragraphs cannot (normally) contain holes. FWIW, there is a pointer to a similar problem in DEK's Digital Typography, chapter 9: Problem for a Saturday Morning, published in TUGboat 8 (1987) (Harmless title for the amount of macros piling up there :-) An article from Alan Hoenig is also mentioned, which can be found there: http://www.tug.org/TUGboat/Articles/tb08-2/tb18hoenig.pdf Hi, Hans, is this something we can expect some nice ConTeXt-ish macros for? Best regards, Micke P ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Paragraph internal graphic/layout inquiry.
Mikael Persson wrote: Hans, is this something we can expect some nice ConTeXt-ish macros for? This is always kind of tricky. Grepping for parshape on my disk gave me an old test file which i wrapped in a preliminary module. I'm not that sure about the interface and I've forgotten how well it performs. (I do have a multi column variant somewhere too.) no guarantees Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - m-shape.tex Description: TeX document ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Paragraph internal graphic/layout inquiry.
Hmm, I'm not sure how to try out this 'preliminary module' --- looks like there is a sample included, but perhaps it could be spelled out for me (and anyone else who doesn't know how to proceed). Many thanks! Dave On Jul 19, 2005, at 1:38 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: Mikael Persson wrote: Hans, is this something we can expect some nice ConTeXt-ish macros for? This is always kind of tricky. Grepping for parshape on my disk gave me an old test file which i wrapped in a preliminary module. I'm not that sure about the interface and I've forgotten how well it performs. (I do have a multi column variant somewhere too.) no guarantees Hans m-shape.tex ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Paragraph internal graphic/layout inquiry.
You can comment out the line
\doifnotmode{demo}{\endinput}
There is probably also an invocation of TeX with a command line option
which sets the mode.
Matthias
On Jul 19, 2005, at 7:36 PM, David Wooten wrote:
Hmm, I'm not sure how to try out this 'preliminary module' --- looks
like there is a sample included, but perhaps it could be spelled out
for me (and anyone else who doesn't know how to proceed).
Many thanks!
Dave
On Jul 19, 2005, at 1:38 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
Mikael Persson wrote:
Hans, is this something we can expect some nice ConTeXt-ish macros
for?
This is always kind of tricky. Grepping for parshape on my disk gave
me an old test file which i wrapped in a preliminary module. I'm not
that sure about the interface and I've forgotten how well it
performs.
(I do have a multi column variant somewhere too.)
no guarantees
Hans
m-shape.tex
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Re: [NTG-context] Paragraph internal graphic/layout inquiry.
Matthias Weber wrote:
You can comment out the line
\doifnotmode{demo}{\endinput}
There is probably also an invocation of TeX with a command line option
which sets the mode.
I made it with
$texexec --pdf --mode=demo m-shape.tex
luigi
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Re: [NTG-context] Paragraph internal graphic/layout inquiry.
David Wooten wrote: Greetings all, Mr. Tufte has an interesting example from da Vinci: http:// trichotomic.net/Leonardo.jpg (76k). Is this type of layout currently possible (or perhaps a better question, wieldy) within ConTeXt? In a standard TeX installation, it is not possible to make this type of paragraph without massive amounts of manual intervention, because TeX's paragraphs cannot (normally) contain holes. However, VTeX does not have that limititation, and the OS/2 and Linux versions of it's TeX compiler are free (as in beer). See http://www.micropress-inc.com Greetings, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Paragraph internal graphic/layout inquiry.
Ah, that's what I feared. I'm using Mac OS X, so I guess I'll have to postpone it. Thanks for the response, David On Jul 13, 2005, at 12:23 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: David Wooten wrote: Greetings all, Mr. Tufte has an interesting example from da Vinci: http:// trichotomic.net/Leonardo.jpg (76k). Is this type of layout currently possible (or perhaps a better question, wieldy) within ConTeXt? In a standard TeX installation, it is not possible to make this type of paragraph without massive amounts of manual intervention, because TeX's paragraphs cannot (normally) contain holes. However, VTeX does not have that limititation, and the OS/2 and Linux versions of it's TeX compiler are free (as in beer). See http://www.micropress-inc.com Greetings, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Paragraph internal graphic/layout inquiry.
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Taco Hoekwater wrote: David Wooten wrote: Mr. Tufte has an interesting example from da Vinci: http:// trichotomic.net/Leonardo.jpg (76k). Is this type of layout currently possible (or perhaps a better question, wieldy) within ConTeXt? In a standard TeX installation, it is not possible to make this type of paragraph without massive amounts of manual intervention, because TeX's paragraphs cannot (normally) contain holes. FWIW, there is a pointer to a similar problem in DEK's Digital Typography, chapter 9: Problem for a Saturday Morning, published in TUGboat 8 (1987) (Harmless title for the amount of macros piling up there :-) An article from Alan Hoenig is also mentioned, which can be found there: http://www.tug.org/TUGboat/Articles/tb08-2/tb18hoenig.pdf Regards, Hartmut ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Paragraph internal graphic/layout inquiry.
Greetings all, Mr. Tufte has an interesting example from da Vinci: http:// trichotomic.net/Leonardo.jpg (76k). Is this type of layout currently possible (or perhaps a better question, wieldy) within ConTeXt? Kind regards, David Wooten ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
