Re: [NTG-context] Question: Are there any ConTeXt aware scientific pulishers yet

2020-04-19 Thread Hans Hagen

On 4/16/2020 2:03 PM, denis.maier.li...@mailbox.org wrote:


Yeah, it seems so. I'm much more afraid of getting Arabic and Judeo-Arabic 
right...
Well, just try it, and when it fails we figure it out. I don't know what 
the difference is between those two arabics but in the end it's all 
about jugling glyphs and some typographic conventions / differences I 
guess.


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Re: [NTG-context] Question: Are there any ConTeXt aware scientific pulishers yet

2020-04-16 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 4/16/20 10:05 AM, denis.maier.li...@mailbox.org wrote:
>> Pablo Rodriguez hat am 16. April 2020 09:53 geschrieben:
>> [...]
>> Do you plan to release the slides of these talks?
>
> Sure, https://boris.unibe.ch/135830/ and https://boris.unibe.ch/135828/

Many thanks for the links, Denis.

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Re: [NTG-context] Question: Are there any ConTeXt aware scientific pulishers yet

2020-04-16 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 4/16/20 10:00 AM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 09:53:46AM +0200, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>> [...]
>> Do you plan to release the slides of these talks?
>
>   
> https://conference.pkp.sfu.ca/index.php/pkp2019/pkp2019/paper/viewFile/719/455
>  and 
> https://conference.pkp.sfu.ca/index.php/pkp2019/pkp2019/paper/viewFile/691/471.

Many thanks for the links, Arthur.

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Re: [NTG-context] Question: Are there any ConTeXt aware scientific pulishers yet

2020-04-16 Thread denis . maier . lists

> Hans Hagen  hat am 16. April 2020 12:24 geschrieben:
> 
>  
> On 4/16/2020 9:02 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >> Am 15.04.2020 um 22:52 schrieb denis.maier.li...@mailbox.org:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>> 1) Does anybody know of any scientific publisher or single journals
> >>> which accept papers/book chapters typeset in ConTeXt yet
> >>
> >> I will use ConTeXt to typeset the Jewish Studies journal *Judaica* 
> >> (https://bop.unibe.ch/index.php/judaica/index). (The first issue should 
> >> appear soon.) However, we do not accept ConTeXt sources as we use jats xml 
> >> as our production format. (Actually, I don't expect any of our authors is 
> >> using ConTeXt.)
> > 
> > Interesting. Is ConTeXt handling Hebrew well?
> hebrew is not that complex to handle so context should handle it okay 
> (assuming a proper font setup)


Yeah, it seems so. I'm much more afraid of getting Arabic and Judeo-Arabic 
right...

Denis
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Re: [NTG-context] Question: Are there any ConTeXt aware scientific pulishers yet

2020-04-16 Thread Hans Hagen

On 4/16/2020 9:02 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:




Am 15.04.2020 um 22:52 schrieb denis.maier.li...@mailbox.org:

Hi,


1) Does anybody know of any scientific publisher or single journals
which accept papers/book chapters typeset in ConTeXt yet


I will use ConTeXt to typeset the Jewish Studies journal *Judaica* 
(https://bop.unibe.ch/index.php/judaica/index). (The first issue should appear 
soon.) However, we do not accept ConTeXt sources as we use jats xml as our 
production format. (Actually, I don't expect any of our authors is using 
ConTeXt.)


Interesting. Is ConTeXt handling Hebrew well?
hebrew is not that complex to handle so context should handle it okay 
(assuming a proper font setup)


Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] Question: Are there any ConTeXt aware scientific pulishers yet

2020-04-16 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 9:08 AM Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:

>
>
> > Am 15.04.2020 um 22:52 schrieb denis.maier.li...@mailbox.org:
>
> I’m using a Python script to convert DOCX to ConTeXt.


c# under linux is also a valid option.

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Re: [NTG-context] Question: Are there any ConTeXt aware scientific pulishers yet

2020-04-16 Thread denis . maier . lists
> Henning Hraban Ramm  hat am 16. April 2020 09:02 geschrieben:

> > I will use ConTeXt to typeset the Jewish Studies journal *Judaica* 
> > (https://bop.unibe.ch/index.php/judaica/index). (The first issue should 
> > appear soon.) However, we do not accept ConTeXt sources as we use jats xml 
> > as our production format. (Actually, I don't expect any of our authors is 
> > using ConTeXt.)
> 
> Interesting. Is ConTeXt handling Hebrew well?

Well, it's not field tested yet. But yes, the demo files work.

> 
> > 
> >> 2) If there are any is any of them convinced enought about ConTeXt to 
> >> recommend use of ConTeXt or even provide template?
> > 
> > Yes, I gave two talks last year at the Public Knowledge Project Conference 
> > in Barcelona. One was about our general workflow (going from docx via 
> > pandoc markdown to jats xml; the other was about typesetting xml with 
> > ConTeXt.)
> 
> I’m using a Python script to convert DOCX to ConTeXt. The better the input, 
> the better the output can be. Usually there’s a lot of manual work. (Last 
> week I had an article whose author never grew out of the typewriter, i.e. 
> every line was a paragraph, footnotes were just paragraphs at the end of his 
> pages – of course my script couldn’t handle that well.)

Yeah, as always, the output is only as good as the input. That's partly why I 
use pandoc (twice, actually.) In a first run, I produce a normalized markdown 
file, where such idiosyncrasies are removed. There, I then add additional 
formatting. In the second run I can then produce the XML. We need the XML to 
produce a nice web view using the Lens Viewer. And also, with pandoc it's much 
easier to produce XML than ConTeXt. 

Best,
Denis
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Re: [NTG-context] Question: Are there any ConTeXt aware scientific pulishers yet

2020-04-16 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 09:53:46AM +0200, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
> On 4/15/20 10:52 PM, denis.maier.li...@mailbox.org wrote:
>> Yes, I gave two talks last year at the Public Knowledge Project
>> Conference in Barcelona. One was about our general workflow (going
>> from docx via pandoc markdown to jats xml; the other was about
>> typesetting xml with ConTeXt.)
> 
> Do you plan to release the slides of these talks?

  
https://conference.pkp.sfu.ca/index.php/pkp2019/pkp2019/paper/viewFile/719/455 
and 
https://conference.pkp.sfu.ca/index.php/pkp2019/pkp2019/paper/viewFile/691/471

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Re: [NTG-context] Question: Are there any ConTeXt aware scientific pulishers yet

2020-04-16 Thread denis . maier . lists

> Pablo Rodriguez  hat am 16. April 2020 09:53 geschrieben:
> 
>  
> On 4/15/20 10:52 PM, denis.maier.li...@mailbox.org wrote:
> > [...]
> >> 2) If there are any is any of them convinced enought about ConTeXt
> >> to recommend use of ConTeXt or even provide template?
> >
> > Yes, I gave two talks last year at the Public Knowledge Project
> > Conference in Barcelona. One was about our general workflow (going
> > from docx via pandoc markdown to jats xml; the other was about
> > typesetting xml with ConTeXt.)
> 
> Do you plan to release the slides of these talks?

Sure, https://boris.unibe.ch/135830/ and https://boris.unibe.ch/135828/

Best, 
Denis
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Re: [NTG-context] Question: Are there any ConTeXt aware scientific pulishers yet

2020-04-16 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 4/15/20 10:52 PM, denis.maier.li...@mailbox.org wrote:
> [...]
>> 2) If there are any is any of them convinced enought about ConTeXt
>> to recommend use of ConTeXt or even provide template?
>
> Yes, I gave two talks last year at the Public Knowledge Project
> Conference in Barcelona. One was about our general workflow (going
> from docx via pandoc markdown to jats xml; the other was about
> typesetting xml with ConTeXt.)

Do you plan to release the slides of these talks?

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Re: [NTG-context] Question: Are there any ConTeXt aware scientific pulishers yet

2020-04-16 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm


> Am 15.04.2020 um 22:52 schrieb denis.maier.li...@mailbox.org:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> 1) Does anybody know of any scientific publisher or single journals
>> which accept papers/book chapters typeset in ConTeXt yet
> 
> I will use ConTeXt to typeset the Jewish Studies journal *Judaica* 
> (https://bop.unibe.ch/index.php/judaica/index). (The first issue should 
> appear soon.) However, we do not accept ConTeXt sources as we use jats xml as 
> our production format. (Actually, I don't expect any of our authors is using 
> ConTeXt.)

Interesting. Is ConTeXt handling Hebrew well?

> 
>> 2) If there are any is any of them convinced enought about ConTeXt to 
>> recommend use of ConTeXt or even provide template?
> 
> Yes, I gave two talks last year at the Public Knowledge Project Conference in 
> Barcelona. One was about our general workflow (going from docx via pandoc 
> markdown to jats xml; the other was about typesetting xml with ConTeXt.)

I’m using a Python script to convert DOCX to ConTeXt. The better the input, the 
better the output can be. Usually there’s a lot of manual work. (Last week I 
had an article whose author never grew out of the typewriter, i.e. every line 
was a paragraph, footnotes were just paragraphs at the end of his pages – of 
course my script couldn’t handle that well.)


>> 3) What would be needed and what could help to make them aware?
>> (difficult to properly formulate, if unclear dont bother)
> 
> Don't know. Perhaps more examples?

Even LaTeX is a niche; there are not enough users of ConTeXt for it to look 
reliable, I guess. You can’t really use it without involving yourself in the 
community.

And while I generally love working with ConTeXt, I’m cursing it often enough 
for unexpected/undocumented behaviour, unfinished features and scattered 
documentation. My book is intended to fix the latter, but there’s no progress – 
I got too many different projects and severe limitations of working capacity. 
And children at home...

Best, Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] Question: Are there any ConTeXt aware scientific pulishers yet

2020-04-15 Thread denis . maier . lists
Hi,

> 1) Does anybody know of any scientific publisher or single journals
> which accept papers/book chapters typeset in ConTeXt yet

I will use ConTeXt to typeset the Jewish Studies journal *Judaica* 
(https://bop.unibe.ch/index.php/judaica/index). (The first issue should appear 
soon.) However, we do not accept ConTeXt sources as we use jats xml as our 
production format. (Actually, I don't expect any of our authors is using 
ConTeXt.)

> 2) If there are any is any of them convinced enought about ConTeXt to 
> recommend use of ConTeXt or even provide template?

Yes, I gave two talks last year at the Public Knowledge Project Conference in 
Barcelona. One was about our general workflow (going from docx via pandoc 
markdown to jats xml; the other was about typesetting xml with ConTeXt.)

> 3) What would be needed and what could help to make them aware?
> (difficult to properly formulate, if unclear dont bother)

Don't know. Perhaps more examples?

Best,
Denis
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Re: [NTG-context] Question: Are there any ConTeXt aware scientific pulishers yet

2020-04-15 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

> Am 15.04.2020 um 17:47 schrieb Christoph Hintermüller 
> :
> 
> 1) Does anybody know of any scientific publisher or single journals
> which accept papers/book chapters typeset in ConTeXt yet
> 2) If there are any is any of them convinced enought about ConTeXt to
> recommend use of ConTeXt or even provide template?

IRCPS’s journals are typeset with ConTeXt.
https://ircps.org

Also, our (Verlag Dreiviertelhaus) publications are mostly typeset with 
ConTeXt, including the magazine on German literature, Kritische Ausgabe.
https://www.dreiviertelhaus.de

Best, Hraban

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[NTG-context] Question: Are there any ConTeXt aware scientific pulishers yet

2020-04-15 Thread Christoph Hintermüller
Hi 
Jet a completely different question just out of curiosity?

1) Does anybody know of any scientific publisher or single journals
which accept papers/book chapters typeset in ConTeXt yet
2) If there are any is any of them convinced enought about ConTeXt to
recommend use of ConTeXt or even provide template?
3) What would be needed and what could help to make them aware?
(difficult to properly formulate, if unclear dont bother)

Best
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