Re: [NTG-context] Tikz updated in minimals but file does not compile

2009-03-21 Thread Mojca Miklavec
2009/3/17 Want to Learn wrote:
 Thanks Wolfgang. I suppose you mean that I need the beta version and not the
 stable version. Anyhow, I downloaded the beta version and tried to install
 tikz
 with the command Mojca mentioned in his post. Everything seemed to go on
 fine.
 But when I tried to compile the following simple file I get an error.

Hello, the Want to Learn,

Since the main discussion with developers has been moved off-list,
this is just to let you know that there have recently been changes in
both TikZ and ConTeXt core, so at least for me TikZ works now with
simple graphics with ConTeXt beta and latest TikZ (that version is
included in the minimals).

Mojca
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[NTG-context] Tikz updated in minimals but file does not compile

2009-03-18 Thread Want to Learn
Thanks Wolfgang. I suppose you mean that I need the beta version and not the
stable version. Anyhow, I downloaded the beta version and tried to install
tikz
with the command Mojca mentioned in his post. Everything seemed to go on
fine.
But when I tried to compile the following simple file I get an error. The
following is the information from the terminal window. It says something
like
 ! Undefined control sequence
And on help, it says that The control sequence at the end of the top line
of your error message was never \def'ed. As you can see below, it loaded
the
tikz module. I wonder what the problem is.

**

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Re: [NTG-context] Tikz updated in minimals but file does not compile

2009-03-18 Thread Mojca Miklavec
2009/3/17 Want to Learn wrote:
 Thanks Wolfgang. I suppose you mean that I need the beta version and not the
 stable version. Anyhow, I downloaded the beta version and tried to install
 tikz
 with the command Mojca mentioned in his post. Everything seemed to go on
 fine.
 But when I tried to compile the following simple file I get an error. The
 following is the information from the terminal window. It says something
 like
  ! Undefined control sequence
 And on help, it says that The control sequence at the end of the top line
 of your error message was never \def'ed. As you can see below, it loaded
 the
 tikz module. I wonder what the problem is.

A week or two weeks ago the author of TikZ has fixed a problem related
to luatex/mkiv, but maybe that was not the only problem. TikZ works
(or at least used to work - no time to test at this moment) in
general, but there might be some more advanced graphics that fail do
work due to heavy changes in ConTeXt source.

Please try with some simple graphics first if they work. If they do,
please post a minimal example that fails. In any case I suspect that
the burden of fixing this will fall on TikZ author's shoulders since
hardly any developer on this list knows the TikZ internals.

Mojca

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Re: [NTG-context] Tikz updated in minimals but file does not compile

2009-03-18 Thread Lutz Haseloff
Hello Want, hello Mojca,

i had the same problem some days before. I found this hint by Wolfgang:

add to your file
\unprotect
\newtoks\toks@
\le...@\zeropoint
\protect

and tikz works like a charm.


can this be added to the module t-tikz.tex?


Greetings

Lutz

2009/3/18 Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com

 2009/3/17 Want to Learn wrote:
  Thanks Wolfgang. I suppose you mean that I need the beta version and not
 the
  stable version. Anyhow, I downloaded the beta version and tried to
 install
  tikz
  with the command Mojca mentioned in his post. Everything seemed to go on
  fine.
  But when I tried to compile the following simple file I get an error. The
  following is the information from the terminal window. It says something
  like
   ! Undefined control sequence
  And on help, it says that The control sequence at the end of the top
 line
  of your error message was never \def'ed. As you can see below, it loaded
  the
  tikz module. I wonder what the problem is.

 A week or two weeks ago the author of TikZ has fixed a problem related
 to luatex/mkiv, but maybe that was not the only problem. TikZ works
 (or at least used to work - no time to test at this moment) in
 general, but there might be some more advanced graphics that fail do
 work due to heavy changes in ConTeXt source.

 Please try with some simple graphics first if they work. If they do,
 please post a minimal example that fails. In any case I suspect that
 the burden of fixing this will fall on TikZ author's shoulders since
 hardly any developer on this list knows the TikZ internals.

 Mojca

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Re: [NTG-context] Tikz updated in minimals but file does not compile

2009-03-18 Thread Lutz Haseloff
Hi all,

shame on me :-(

The tikz problem solution was by:

From adityam at umich.edu  Sat Mar  7 21:42:27 2009
From: adityam at umich.edu (Aditya Mahajan)
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 15:42:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [NTG-context] luatex tikz problem

Wolfgang and Aditya, please excuse my wrong citation.


Lutz
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Re: [NTG-context] Tikz updated in minimals but file does not compile

2009-03-18 Thread Curious Learn
Lutz Haseloff lutz.haseloff at googlemail.com writes:

 Hello Want, hello Mojca,i had the same problem some days before. I found this
hint by Wolfgang:add to your file\unprotect\newtoks\toks at \let\z at
\zeropoint\protectand tikz works like a charm.can this be added to the module
t-tikz.tex?GreetingsLutz

Thanks Lutz (and Aditya) for the solution. I will try it later. After it did not
work yesterday and after seeing Hans Hagen's post about the possible problems
with the newest beta, I deleted the latest beta and installed the stable version
(the one that comes with --context=current option). I suppose I will have to
update it to the latest beta and try Aditya's solution.

Mojca, I was trying out a very simple tikz code to see whether it works. It was,

\usemodule[tikz]

\starttext

\starttikzpicture
  draw (0,0) -- (2,2);
\stoptikzpicture

\stoptext

Thanks to you all again for answering the questions.


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Re: [NTG-context] Tikz updated in minimals but file does not compile

2009-03-18 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Wed, 18 Mar 2009, Mojca Miklavec wrote:


2009/3/17 Want to Learn wrote:

Thanks Wolfgang. I suppose you mean that I need the beta version and not the
stable version. Anyhow, I downloaded the beta version and tried to install
tikz
with the command Mojca mentioned in his post. Everything seemed to go on
fine.
But when I tried to compile the following simple file I get an error. The
following is the information from the terminal window. It says something
like
 ! Undefined control sequence
And on help, it says that The control sequence at the end of the top line
of your error message was never \def'ed. As you can see below, it loaded
the
tikz module. I wonder what the problem is.


A week or two weeks ago the author of TikZ has fixed a problem related
to luatex/mkiv, but maybe that was not the only problem. TikZ works
(or at least used to work - no time to test at this moment) in
general, but there might be some more advanced graphics that fail do
work due to heavy changes in ConTeXt source.


I have recently used tikz in a project, and it works fine. The only 
trouble with the latest beta is that Hans has removed the funny commands 
with @ in them, which are a legacy of plain TeX, in favour of more legible 
command names. For example, \minusone in place of \...@ne, \zeropoint in 
place of \z@ etc. This makes ConTeXt code more readable, but at the same 
time means that any package which was compatible with plain TeX, 
LaTeX, and ConTeXt, will now fail in ConTeXt.


Fixing this is as simple as adding a few \let old-command = new command 
things in the beginning. The easiest solution is to collect such things in 
a module, and import them before importing tikz or any other module which 
relies on the existance of plain TeX like macros.


Aditya

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Re: [NTG-context] Tikz updated in minimals but file does not compile

2009-03-18 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 15:06, Curious Learn wrote:

 I will try it later. After it did not
 work yesterday and after seeing Hans Hagen's post about the possible problems
 with the newest beta, I deleted the latest beta and installed the stable 
 version
 (the one that comes with --context=current option).

Just as a note. You don't need to delete anything. Just change beta
into current (or vice versa) in first-setup and you'll get the desired
version after reruning he script.

 I suppose I will have to
 update it to the latest beta and try Aditya's solution.

 Mojca, I was trying out a very simple tikz code to see whether it works. It 
 was,

I have later noticed that there are indeed general problems even in
mkii. Either Hans or Till need to fix the code, but I like Aditya's
suggestion.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Tikz updated in minimals but file does not compile

2009-03-18 Thread Hans Hagen

Mojca Miklavec wrote:


I have later noticed that there are indeed general problems even in
mkii. Either Hans or Till need to fix the code, but I like Aditya's
suggestion.


i added them now to syst-ini but i don't know if i catched them all

anyhow, for module writers: use the readable ones and not the obscure

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