Re: [NTG-context] Wrong hyphenation when using patterns={fr,agr}
Dears Joseph, Hans, Wolfgang, Arthur (and others),
As a French user of ConTeXt (current version: 2016.07.18 16:46,
generally on Windows 10, time to time on Ubuntu), I am currently working
on a book in French, with Greek quotations, and some rare occurences in
other non-european languages. Before version: 2016.07.18, there were
conflicts in hyphenations (with '\setuplanguage[fr][patterns={fr,agr}]'
command) that Hans has fixed. But some disgraceful double dots [:] used
to stay at the beginning of lines. With the
'\setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]' command, all end that end
well. I found no more hyphenation issues, nor punctuation ones, even
within text defined by \definefallbackfamily setup.
\setuplanguage[fr][patterns={fr,agr}]
\mainlanguage[fr]
\setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]
Le 09/08/2016 à 23:21, josephcan...@gmail.com a écrit :
Dear all,
Combining patterns for french and ancien greek languages, I noticed
there are wrong hyphenations at quote char as shown in following MWE.
Is this expected behavior by using the patterns= key in such a way ?
Using ConTeXt ver: 2016.08.08 21:28 MKIV beta fmt: 2016.8.9 int:
english/English
\setuplanguage[fr][patterns={fr, agr}]
\mainlanguage[fr]
\starttext
\hyphenatedword{l'homme}
\stoptext
-
The above prints : l’-homme
If so, what is the alternative to specify hyphenation in a text
containing both french and ancient greek (the minority) words.
Thanks a lot for advising,
Best regards
Joseph Canedo
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Re: [NTG-context] Wrong hyphenation when using patterns={fr,agr}
On 8/10/2016 2:15 PM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: I see: languages > initialization > language 'fr', patterns 'agr,fr', discarding conflict (0-9)'(0-9) so, the ' is used differently between the languages As I remember, French has 2'2 while Ancient Greek has 8'8 which are not exactly contradictory ;-) We could of course normalise all languages to the same value (8 is probably sound); in the mean time Joseph can edit his own copy of, say, the French patterns to replace the 2’s by 8’s. some harmonization can indeed help there because one never know how the weights matter (8'8 vs 7'7 would be interesting indeed) which remind me that the l/r min values should probably also be adapted in such cases Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Wrong hyphenation when using patterns={fr,agr}
> I see: > > languages > initialization > language 'fr', patterns 'agr,fr', > discarding conflict (0-9)'(0-9) > > so, the ' is used differently between the languages As I remember, French has 2'2 while Ancient Greek has 8'8 which are not exactly contradictory ;-) We could of course normalise all languages to the same value (8 is probably sound); in the mean time Joseph can edit his own copy of, say, the French patterns to replace the 2’s by 8’s. Best, Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Wrong hyphenation when using patterns={fr,agr}
On 8/9/2016 11:21 PM, josephcan...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear all,
Combining patterns for french and ancien greek languages, I noticed
there are wrong hyphenations at quote char as shown in following MWE.
Is this expected behavior by using the patterns= key in such a way ?
I see:
languages > initialization > language 'fr', patterns 'agr,fr',
discarding conflict (0-9)'(0-9)
so, the ' is used differently between the languages
Using ConTeXt ver: 2016.08.08 21:28 MKIV beta fmt: 2016.8.9 int:
english/English
\setuplanguage[fr][patterns={fr, agr}]
\mainlanguage[fr]
\starttext
\hyphenatedword{l'homme}
\stoptext
-
The above prints : l’-homme
If so, what is the alternative to specify hyphenation in a text
containing both french and ancient greek (the minority) words.
Thanks a lot for advising,
Best regards
Joseph Canedo
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[NTG-context] Wrong hyphenation when using patterns={fr,agr}
Dear all,
Combining patterns for french and ancien greek languages, I noticed there are
wrong hyphenations at quote char as shown in following MWE.
Is this expected behavior by using the patterns= key in such a way ?
Using ConTeXt ver: 2016.08.08 21:28 MKIV beta fmt: 2016.8.9 int:
english/English
\setuplanguage[fr][patterns={fr, agr}]
\mainlanguage[fr]
\starttext
\hyphenatedword{l'homme}
\stoptext
-
The above prints : l’-homme
If so, what is the alternative to specify hyphenation in a text containing both
french and ancient greek (the minority) words.
Thanks a lot for advising,
Best regards
Joseph Canedo
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