Re: [NTG-context] XML as source (was: E-books and XML)
The best commercial XML editor is oxygenxml IMHO. If you need free, look at xmlmind. -m On August 27, 2014 7:03:06 AM PDT, Procházka Lukáš Ing. - Pontex s. r. o. l...@pontex.cz wrote: Hello Thomas, I'm just curious: - Which editor(s) (including commercial one(s)) do you usually use to create XML source for Ctx? (Under Windows?) - XML input vs. .tex (.cld) source: IMHO, when one needs to program parts of Ctx source, it's better to use TeX source/language combined with Lua or CLD. Or - is it possible to program anyhow in XML source (Lua)? I have no practical experience with (manual) creation of XML input files for Ctx (yes, of course, there are some .xml sources generated by other programs). So, I can imagine one prepares source for Ctx as XML when he creates something belletristic-like; when one needs to process many products of other programs, plus to add comments, reports or so, something programmable is necessary; so, IMHO, XML might be useful for the latter case providing a) programming capabilities and b) good XML editor. Best regards, Lukas On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 20:12:25 +0200, Thomas A. Schmitz thomas.schm...@uni-bonn.de wrote: On 26 Aug 2014, at 20:04, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: To chime in: xml input facilitates the separation of content and display. There are many tools which will validate xml as you type. Your context skills will not be lost - if you have invested years in learning to code, you will still be able to do this in your environment files. John's argument does not make sense to me. If someone new to context asked me, I think I would advise her or him to use xml input which is more versatile and easier to proofread for a beginner. And if one day in 20 years she decides she wants to use another tool for her files, it’s much easier to convert xml. -- Ing. Lukáš Procházka | mailto:l...@pontex.cz Pontex s. r. o. | mailto:pon...@pontex.cz | http://www.pontex.cz Bezová 1658 147 14 Praha 4 Tel: +420 241 096 751 Fax: +420 244 461 038 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] XML as source (was: E-books and XML)
Hello Thomas, I'm just curious: - Which editor(s) (including commercial one(s)) do you usually use to create XML source for Ctx? (Under Windows?) - XML input vs. .tex (.cld) source: IMHO, when one needs to program parts of Ctx source, it's better to use TeX source/language combined with Lua or CLD. Or - is it possible to program anyhow in XML source (Lua)? I have no practical experience with (manual) creation of XML input files for Ctx (yes, of course, there are some .xml sources generated by other programs). So, I can imagine one prepares source for Ctx as XML when he creates something belletristic-like; when one needs to process many products of other programs, plus to add comments, reports or so, something programmable is necessary; so, IMHO, XML might be useful for the latter case providing a) programming capabilities and b) good XML editor. Best regards, Lukas On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 20:12:25 +0200, Thomas A. Schmitz thomas.schm...@uni-bonn.de wrote: On 26 Aug 2014, at 20:04, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: To chime in: xml input facilitates the separation of content and display. There are many tools which will validate xml as you type. Your context skills will not be lost - if you have invested years in learning to code, you will still be able to do this in your environment files. John's argument does not make sense to me. If someone new to context asked me, I think I would advise her or him to use xml input which is more versatile and easier to proofread for a beginner. And if one day in 20 years she decides she wants to use another tool for her files, it’s much easier to convert xml. -- Ing. Lukáš Procházka | mailto:l...@pontex.cz Pontex s. r. o. | mailto:pon...@pontex.cz | http://www.pontex.cz Bezová 1658 147 14 Praha 4 Tel: +420 241 096 751 Fax: +420 244 461 038 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] XML as source (was: E-books and XML)
On 2014-08-27 Procházka Lukáš Ing. - Pontex s. r. o. wrote: Which editor(s) (including commercial one(s)) do you usually use to create XML source for Ctx? (Under Windows?) This is IMO the best you can currently get: http://www.oxygenxml.com/xml_author.html - XML input vs. .tex (.cld) source: IMHO, when one needs to program parts of Ctx source, it's better to use TeX source/language combined with Lua or CLD. Or - is it possible to program anyhow in XML source (Lua)? Most natural way for XML processing is XSLT transformation (kind of functional programming language). It is advisable to choose one of standardized vocabulary (DocBook, DITA, TEI) what give you a set of out-of-the-box XSLT stylesheets for common output formats. And in some tools, e.g. Oxygen, you can get additional level of comfort (various schema related functionality boosting your productivity) over using your own XML structure. In case of DocBook you can get even Context output using this XSLT set: http://dblatex.sourceforge.net/ (there is a dbcontext part in the download section) Actually, this is my way of using ConTeXt, but with various MKIV compatibility tweaks. From the same DocBook XML source I am producing epub and also WebHelp (set of HTML pages). http://docbook.sourceforge.net/release/xsl/current/webhelp/docs/ch01.html HTH, Jan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
