Re: [NTG-context] can I upgrade yet?

2005-01-12 Thread Gary
Hans Hagen wrote:
Gary wrote:
Hans Hagen wrote:
Gary wrote:

[...]
3.) Is there some other way besides my traditional method of 
unzipping cont-tmf.zip file into /localtexmf ?  Do I need to 
rebuild the file system?


no, you can unzip, run textools --fixtexmf --force, regenerate the 
database, and cross your fingers

ok, here's what I did:
1. Upgraded MikTeX
2. Unzipped the latest cont-tmf.zip (from pragma-ade.com)  into 
c:\tex\localtexmf
3. ran textools --fixtexmf --force  (what does that do?)

if needed it moves you rlocal enc/map files to their new locations, 
not needed if you have no commercial fonts

4. checked c:\tex\localtex\context\config.  texexec.ini is newer than 
texexec.rme, so I left it alone.
5. ran texexec --make en nl  (do I need nl? I'm exclusively 
English.  I guess it can't hurt.)
6.  noticed that cont-en.efmt was automatically relocated to 
c:\tex\localtex\miktex\fmt but cont-nl was not.
7. moved cont-nl.efmt to c:\tex\localtex\miktex\fmt
8.  renamed them both to *.fmt  (per a note in the contextgarden 
wiki.   Is this necessary?)
9.  ran texexec --make metafun
10.  moved metefun.mem to c:\tex\localtex\miktex\mem
11. ran mktexlsr

texexec --make  (--all if you want all patterns)
is normally enough, apart from moving the fmt and mem files (aren't 
those put at the right spot by miktex?)

Hans
Hmm.   I normally open a command line window, and execute
texexec --make en nl
in some random directory.  The result appears to be cont-en.efmt in the 
correct place, and cont-nl.efmt in the current directory.  It's 
possible that I did not look closely enough, and something entirely 
different happened.

I can't see why MikTeX would have any say in the matter of what texexec 
does.

Anyway, thanks for commenting.  I wasn't sure I was doing the right thing.
-g
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[NTG-context] can I upgrade yet?

2005-01-11 Thread Gary
Some months ago I stopped upgrading ConTeXt.  Here and there I saw 
references to new file hierarchies, and something about installation 
scripts ... if I remember correctly.   I didn't want to break my system, 
so I just stopped upgrading, and stopped reading those messages (which I 
didn't understand, anyway).

I'm currently using MikTeX.
1.)  Concerning file hierarchy:  did something monumental indeed ocurr 
that I ignored?

2.) If so, is it safe to upgrade? 

3.) Is there some other way besides my traditional method of unzipping 
cont-tmf.zip file into /localtexmf ?  Do I need to rebuild the file system?

4.) Have I misinterpreted, and nothing much has changed?
Sorry about this.  I really want to avoid getting my system into some 
strange state, and spending hours unraveling the mystery.  Done that too 
many times in my life.

-gary
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Re: [NTG-context] can I upgrade yet?

2005-01-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Gary wrote:
Some months ago I stopped upgrading ConTeXt.  Here and there I saw 
references to new file hierarchies, and something about installation 
scripts ... if I remember correctly.   I didn't want to break my system, 
so I just stopped upgrading, and stopped reading those messages (which I 
didn't understand, anyway).

I'm currently using MikTeX.
1.)  Concerning file hierarchy:  did something monumental indeed ocurr 
that I ignored?
enc and map files as well as scripts are now in new locations, i assume that 
miktex has been adapted to that

2.) If so, is it safe to upgrade?
miktex has a good reputation or upgrading
3.) Is there some other way besides my traditional method of unzipping 
cont-tmf.zip file into /localtexmf ?  Do I need to rebuild the file system?
no, you can unzip, run textools --fixtexmf --force, regenerate the database, 
and cross your fingers

4.) Have I misinterpreted, and nothing much has changed?
thing shave changed, e,g, the pdftex cfg file is gone now; no real problem for 
context since it never depended on that; the danger is in partially upgrading: a 
new pdftex will not work in an old tree

Sorry about this.  I really want to avoid getting my system into some 
strange state, and spending hours unraveling the mystery.  Done that too 
many times in my life.
i do my best to avoid problem sfo rusers, but some things are out of my 
control
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] can I upgrade yet?

2005-01-11 Thread Matthew Huggett
 Is there some other way besides my traditional method of unzipping 
 cont-tmf.zip file into /localtexmf ?

I'm on MikTeX as well.  I've kept my system up to date via the
MikTeX Update Wizard.  But just to see if unzipping cont-tmf.zip over
my \texmf would break anything, I just tried it.  No problem.
That said, I updated my installation via the wizard only a few weeks
ago


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Re: [NTG-context] can I upgrade yet?

2005-01-11 Thread Gary
Hans Hagen wrote:
Gary wrote: 

[...]
Sorry about this.  I really want to avoid getting my system into some 
strange state, and spending hours unraveling the mystery.  Done that 
too many times in my life.

i do my best to avoid problem sfo rusers, but some things are out of 
my control

Hans
Understood and appreciated.   I am *not* annoyed, and I apologize if I 
sounded annoyed.
Thanks for the upgrade tips.
-gary

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Re: [NTG-context] can I upgrade yet?

2005-01-11 Thread Gary
Hans Hagen wrote:
Gary wrote:
[...]
3.) Is there some other way besides my traditional method of 
unzipping cont-tmf.zip file into /localtexmf ?  Do I need to rebuild 
the file system?

no, you can unzip, run textools --fixtexmf --force, regenerate the 
database, and cross your fingers
ok, here's what I did:
1. Upgraded MikTeX
2. Unzipped the latest cont-tmf.zip (from pragma-ade.com)  into 
c:\tex\localtexmf
3. ran textools --fixtexmf --force  (what does that do?)
4. checked c:\tex\localtex\context\config.  texexec.ini is newer than 
texexec.rme, so I left it alone.
5. ran texexec --make en nl  (do I need nl? I'm exclusively 
English.  I guess it can't hurt.)
6.  noticed that cont-en.efmt was automatically relocated to 
c:\tex\localtex\miktex\fmt but cont-nl was not.
7. moved cont-nl.efmt to c:\tex\localtex\miktex\fmt
8.  renamed them both to *.fmt  (per a note in the contextgarden wiki.   
Is this necessary?)
9.  ran texexec --make metafun
10.  moved metefun.mem to c:\tex\localtex\miktex\mem
11. ran mktexlsr

So far, everything seems to be fine. 
Are all of these steps necessary?  or advisable? Did I forget anything?  
Is there an shorter method that I've missed?  (not that this is long or 
difficult)

Thanks again,
-gary

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Re: [NTG-context] can I upgrade yet?

2005-01-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Gary wrote:
Understood and appreciated.   I am *not* annoyed, and I apologize if I 
sounded annoyed.
i was not annoyed at all -)
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] can I upgrade yet?

2005-01-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Gary wrote:
Hans Hagen wrote:
Gary wrote:

[...]
3.) Is there some other way besides my traditional method of 
unzipping cont-tmf.zip file into /localtexmf ?  Do I need to rebuild 
the file system?

no, you can unzip, run textools --fixtexmf --force, regenerate the 
database, and cross your fingers

ok, here's what I did:
1. Upgraded MikTeX
2. Unzipped the latest cont-tmf.zip (from pragma-ade.com)  into 
c:\tex\localtexmf
3. ran textools --fixtexmf --force  (what does that do?)
if needed it moves you rlocal enc/map files to their new locations, not needed 
if you have no commercial fonts

4. checked c:\tex\localtex\context\config.  texexec.ini is newer than 
texexec.rme, so I left it alone.
5. ran texexec --make en nl  (do I need nl? I'm exclusively 
English.  I guess it can't hurt.)
6.  noticed that cont-en.efmt was automatically relocated to 
c:\tex\localtex\miktex\fmt but cont-nl was not.
7. moved cont-nl.efmt to c:\tex\localtex\miktex\fmt
8.  renamed them both to *.fmt  (per a note in the contextgarden wiki.   
Is this necessary?)
9.  ran texexec --make metafun
10.  moved metefun.mem to c:\tex\localtex\miktex\mem
11. ran mktexlsr
texexec --make  (--all if you want all patterns)
is normally enough, apart from moving the fmt and mem files (aren't those put at 
the right spot by miktex?)

Hans
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  Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
 tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
 | www.pragma-pod.nl
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