Re: [NTG-context] column balancing question
Michal Kvasnicka wrote: Good evening. Many thanks for your help. Your solution works well with the newest ConTeXt and one particular document I now typeset. I have to check it still with more documents. Do you want to gen a report from these tests? If you want I can send you many examples, but not `minimal files', since I don't know when the problem occures. As I typeset our church bulletin, I've got that result pretty often---approximately on one third or one fourth of all pages. just test this on many docs and let me know if it fails (one source of problems with i'm currently trying to catch is rounding errors in comparisons) I can't switch to columnset all my documents. Columnsets are absolutely great (one of the ConTeXt miracle---I thought it is not possible to do it in TeX because of its breaking routines), but up-to-now columnsets cannot be ballanced (or can they?), and my church bulletin is typset in such a way that each article can start anywhere on the page, and the columns must be ballanced before it. I can't explain it better because of my English, but its pages look like this: x x x x x x x x Title of article x x x x Therefore I would lobby for the support of the old \startcolumns ... \stopcolumns environment. :-) don't worry, i'm not driopping the old one, actually, in due time i'll provide more specialized ones and interfaces to write your own -) balancing in columnsets is a tricky business, the following should work (kind of manual balacing, complete control over how long columns on pages are; probably a bit fragile) % output=pdftex interface=en \setuplayout[grid=yes] \showgrid \showstruts % gaat nogal fout zonder grid \setuptolerance[verytolerant] \definecolumnset [test-1] [n=2] \definecolumnset [test-2] [n=3] \starttext \startcolumnset [test-1] \dorecurse {1}{\input tufte \par} \stopcolumnset \startcolumnset [test-2] \dorecurse {2}{\input ward \par} \stopcolumnset \page \setupcolumnset [test-1] [balance=yes] \setupcolumnset [test-2] [balance=yes] \setupcolumnsetlines[test-1][1][1] [8] \setupcolumnsetlines[test-1][1][2][10] \startcolumnset [test-1] \dorecurse {1}{\input tufte \par} \stopcolumnset \startcolumnset [test-2] \dorecurse {2}{\input ward \par} \stopcolumnset \page \setupcolumnsetlines[test-1][1][1] [8] \setupcolumnsetlines[test-1][1][2][10] \setupcolumnsetlines[test-2][1][1][19] \setupcolumnsetlines[test-2][1][2][18] \setupcolumnsetlines[test-2][1][3][19] \startcolumnset [test-1] \dorecurse {1}{\input tufte \par} \stopcolumnset \startcolumnset [test-2] \dorecurse {2}{\input ward \par} \stopcolumnset \page \setupcolumnsetlines[test-1][1][1] [8] \setupcolumnsetlines[test-1][1][2][10] \setupcolumnsetlines[test-2][1][1][0] \setupcolumnsetlines[test-2][1][2][-2] \setupcolumnsetlines[test-2][1][3][0] \startcolumnset [test-1] \dorecurse {1}{\input tufte \par} \stopcolumnset \startcolumnset [test-2] \dorecurse {6}{\input ward \par} \stopcolumnset \page \setupcolumnsetlines[test-1][1][1] [8] \setupcolumnsetlines[test-1][1][2][10] \setupcolumnsetstart[test-2][1][1][20] \setupcolumnsetstart[test-2][1][2][20] \setupcolumnsetstart[test-2][1][3][20] \startcolumnset [test-1] \dorecurse {1}{\input tufte \par} \stopcolumnset \startcolumnset [test-2] \dorecurse {2}{\input ward \par} \stopcolumnset \page \setupcolumnsetlines[test-1][1][1] [8] \setupcolumnsetlines[test-1][1][2][10] \setupcolumnsetlines[test-2][1][1][-20] \setupcolumnsetlines[test-2][1][2][-20] \setupcolumnsetlines[test-2][1][3][-20] \startcolumnset [test-1] \dorecurse {1}{\input tufte \par} \stopcolumnset \startcolumnset [test-2] \dorecurse {2}{\input ward \par} \stopcolumnset \stoptext Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] column balancing question
Good evening. Many thanks for your help. Your solution works well with the newest ConTeXt and one particular document I now typeset. I have to check it still with more documents. Do you want to gen a report from these tests? If you want I can send you many examples, but not `minimal files', since I don't know when the problem occures. As I typeset our church bulletin, I've got that result pretty often---approximately on one third or one fourth of all pages. I can't switch to columnset all my documents. Columnsets are absolutely great (one of the ConTeXt miracle---I thought it is not possible to do it in TeX because of its breaking routines), but up-to-now columnsets cannot be ballanced (or can they?), and my church bulletin is typset in such a way that each article can start anywhere on the page, and the columns must be ballanced before it. I can't explain it better because of my English, but its pages look like this: x x x x x x x x Title of article x x x x Therefore I would lobby for the support of the old \startcolumns ... \stopcolumns environment. :-) As for the Willi Egger's question, I don't use `fit' options very often. The problem I've mentioned in my last mail occures even when the `width' is set to some dimen and the `length' of page is set to some number of lines. Many greetings and thanks again. Your sincerely Michal Kvasnicka Hard to see without example. You may try this (i have this in my local expermental setup) \def\getmulticolumnlines {\mcscratchdimen-\columntextoffset \multiply\mcscratchdimen \plustwo \advance\mcscratchdimen \columntextheight \ifdim\precolumnboxheight>\zeropoint \advance\mcscratchdimen -\precolumnboxheight \fi \settotalinsertionheight \advance\mcscratchdimen -\totalinsertionheight \getnoflines\mcscratchdimen % added 30/7/2004 \ifnum\layoutlines>\zerocount \ifnum\noflines>\layoutlines \noflines\layoutlines \fi \fi \nofcolumnlines\noflines} Another option is to switch to column sets (see columns.pdf), Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] column balancing question
Good evening, Though Hans has sent already a piece of code ... I saw that you are using height=fit, and width=fit. Did you ever try to compile your file without these options? -- Some time ago I experienced troubles with such options, although my layout was different and the document was not setup with columns. Kind regards Willi Michal Kvasnicka wrote: Good morning. One reason for me to switch to ConTeXt were its macros for typesetting in columns that are highly superior to any such macro I have ever seen. (I typeset almost all my documnts in two columns.) But I am not able to supress one strange feature: some pages are one more line longer than they should be. It happen randomly -- or at least I was not able to find out when it happens. Therefore I'm not able to prepare an minimal file. I thougth that setting \widowpenalty=0 \clubpenalty=0 \brokenpenalty=0 \normalbottom may help, but it does not. Can you tell me how to fix this very problem? Well, it does so on all versions of ConTeXt I have ever tried and both with teTeX and TeXLive distribution. Many thanks for your attention and help. Yours Michal Kvasnicka P.S. my document setting is like this (some example can be found at http://www.econ.muni.cz/~qasar/tmp/delba_prace.pdf): % output=pdf \setupbodyfont[ss,10pt] \setuplayout [topspace=2cm, height=fit, lines=55, backspace=15mm, width=fit, margin=0pt, header=3\baselineskip, footer=0pt, grid=yes] \setuppagenumbering[location=] \setupheader[style={\em}] \setupheadertexts[Axel Leijonhufvud: Jednotlivec, trh a prÅmyslovà dÄlba prÃce][pagenumber] \setupindenting[medium] \indenting[first] \setupfootnotes [location=columns, rule=off, before={\blank[3*line,small]}, after=] \setupfootnotedefinition [location=left,width=fit, sample={\mathematics{\star\star\star}\ },hang=1] \setupcolumns[balance=no] \widowpenalty=0 \clubpenalty=0 \brokenpenalty=0 \setuphead[section] [number=no, style={\bf}, before={\blank[3*line]}, after={\blank[line]}, indentnext=yes] ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] column balancing question
Michal Kvasnicka wrote: Good morning. One reason for me to switch to ConTeXt were its macros for typesetting in columns that are highly superior to any such macro I have ever seen. (I typeset almost all my documnts in two columns.) But I am not able to supress one strange feature: some pages are one more line longer than they should be. It happen randomly -- or at least I was not able to find out when it happens. Therefore I'm not able to prepare an minimal file. I thougth that setting Hard to see without example. You may try this (i have this in my local expermental setup) \def\getmulticolumnlines {\mcscratchdimen-\columntextoffset \multiply\mcscratchdimen \plustwo \advance\mcscratchdimen \columntextheight \ifdim\precolumnboxheight>\zeropoint \advance\mcscratchdimen -\precolumnboxheight \fi \settotalinsertionheight \advance\mcscratchdimen -\totalinsertionheight \getnoflines\mcscratchdimen % added 30/7/2004 \ifnum\layoutlines>\zerocount \ifnum\noflines>\layoutlines \noflines\layoutlines \fi \fi \nofcolumnlines\noflines} Another option is to switch to column sets (see columns.pdf), Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] column balancing question
Good morning. One reason for me to switch to ConTeXt were its macros for typesetting in columns that are highly superior to any such macro I have ever seen. (I typeset almost all my documnts in two columns.) But I am not able to supress one strange feature: some pages are one more line longer than they should be. It happen randomly -- or at least I was not able to find out when it happens. Therefore I'm not able to prepare an minimal file. I thougth that setting \widowpenalty=0 \clubpenalty=0 \brokenpenalty=0 \normalbottom may help, but it does not. Can you tell me how to fix this very problem? Well, it does so on all versions of ConTeXt I have ever tried and both with teTeX and TeXLive distribution. Many thanks for your attention and help. Yours Michal Kvasnicka P.S. my document setting is like this (some example can be found at http://www.econ.muni.cz/~qasar/tmp/delba_prace.pdf): % output=pdf \setupbodyfont[ss,10pt] \setuplayout [topspace=2cm, height=fit, lines=55, backspace=15mm, width=fit, margin=0pt, header=3\baselineskip, footer=0pt, grid=yes] \setuppagenumbering[location=] \setupheader[style={\em}] \setupheadertexts[Axel Leijonhufvud: Jednotlivec, trh a prÅmyslovà dÄlba prÃce][pagenumber] \setupindenting[medium] \indenting[first] \setupfootnotes [location=columns, rule=off, before={\blank[3*line,small]}, after=] \setupfootnotedefinition [location=left,width=fit, sample={\mathematics{\star\star\star}\ },hang=1] \setupcolumns[balance=no] \widowpenalty=0 \clubpenalty=0 \brokenpenalty=0 \setuphead[section] [number=no, style={\bf}, before={\blank[3*line]}, after={\blank[line]}, indentnext=yes] ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context