Re: [NTG-context] extra white in framedtext
On 6/15/06, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nikolai Weibull wrote: Is it only me, or do you really need to do somethnig about your encoding settings, Hans? i dunno, this what i got; normally utf8 works ok; i use thunderbird At my end (gmail), a random set of spaces from Hans van der Meer's (such an awesome name, btw) example have turned into U+FFFD in your reply. nikolai ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] extra white in framedtext
On 6/12/06, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |� �� �� �� �� �� �� �|� with \null in first line |� �� �first line� � �| |� �� �second line � �| --- --- |� �� �first line� � �|� without \null in first line |� �� �second line � �| --- Is it only me, or do you really need to do somethnig about your encoding settings, Hans? nikolai ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] extra white in framedtext
Nikolai Weibull wrote: On 6/12/06, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |� �� �� �� �� �� �� �|� with \null in first line |� �� �first line� � �| |� �� �second line � �| --- --- |� �� �first line� � �|� without \null in first line |� �� �second line � �| --- Is it only me, or do you really need to do somethnig about your encoding settings, Hans? i dunno, this what i got; normally utf8 works ok; i use thunderbird Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] extra white in framedtext
On Jun 12, 2006, at 23:31, Hans Hagen wrote:
Hans van der Meer wrote:
I did want to typeset material within framedtext with some white
before and after each line.
Appropriate for this seems to me: \null\quad material \quad\null\crlf
etc.; the preceding \null preventing disappearence of the first
\quad.
The strange thing is that the \null in the first line induces an
extra
vertical whitespace between the top of the frame and the first line
inside the frame.
An impression of the result:
---
|� �� �� �� �� �� �� �|� with \null
in first line
|� �� �first line� � �|
|� �� �second line � �|
---
---
|� �� �first line� � �|� without \null in first line
|� �� �second line � �|
---
It seems counterintuitive to withhold the \null in the first line in
order to have the framing correct.
A minimal example on which I encountered this follows:
\setupbodyfont[cmr]
interesting, cmr
Yes, my default font setup sometimes seems to play havoc with me.
It turns automagically into lm.
As for the above problem, my brains were a bit rusty I think.
Just a leavevmode did the trick:
\startframedtext[middle][width=fit]
\leavevmode % = the solution
\null\quad\type{with leavevmode: no more extra vertical space}\quad
\null\crlf
\null\quad\type{normal vertical space}\quad\null
\stopframedtext
Hans van der Meer
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Re: [NTG-context] extra white in framedtext
Hans van der Meer wrote:
On Jun 12, 2006, at 23:31, Hans Hagen wrote:
Hans van der Meer wrote:
I did want to typeset material within framedtext with some white
before and after each line.
Appropriate for this seems to me: \null\quad material \quad\null\crlf
etc.; the preceding \null preventing disappearence of the first
\quad.
The strange thing is that the \null in the first line induces an
extra
vertical whitespace between the top of the frame and the first line
inside the frame.
An impression of the result:
---
|� �� �� �� �� �� �� �|� with \null
in first line
|� �� �first line� � �|
|� �� �second line � �|
---
---
|� �� �first line� � �|� without \null in first line
|� �� �second line � �|
---
It seems counterintuitive to withhold the \null in the first line in
order to have the framing correct.
A minimal example on which I encountered this follows:
\setupbodyfont[cmr]
interesting, cmr
Yes, my default font setup sometimes seems to play havoc with me.
It turns automagically into lm.
As for the above problem, my brains were a bit rusty I think.
Just a leavevmode did the trick:
\startframedtext[middle][width=fit]
\leavevmode % = the solution
\null\quad\type{with leavevmode: no more extra vertical space}\quad
\null\crlf
\null\quad\type{normal vertical space}\quad\null
\stopframedtext
in general \dontleavehmode is better since \leavevmode may introduce unwanted
whitespace sometimes
(i try to avoid \leavevmode whenever possible)
Hans
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[NTG-context] extra white in framedtext
I did want to typeset material within framedtext with some white before and after each line.Appropriate for this seems to me: \null\quad material \quad\null\crlf etc.; the preceding \null preventing disappearence of the first \quad.The strange thing is that the \null in the first line induces an extra vertical whitespace between the top of the frame and the first line inside the frame.An impression of the result:---| | with \null in first line| first line || second line |--| first line | without \null in first line| second line |---It seems counterintuitive to withhold the \null in the first line in order to have the framing correct.A minimal example on which I encountered this follows:\setupbodyfont[cmr]% gives extra vertical white\startframedtext[middle][width=fit]\null\quad\type{extra vertical space}\quad\null\crlf\null\quad\type{normal vertical space}\quad\null\stopframedtext% normal vertical white\startframedtext[middle][width=fit]\quad\type{normal vertical space}\quad\null\crlf\null\quad\type{normal vertical space}\quad\null\stopframedtext\stoptextDoes this occur elsewhere too?Is it normal behaviour of framedtext? Hans van der Meer ___
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Re: [NTG-context] extra white in framedtext
Hans van der Meer wrote:
I did want to typeset material within framedtext with some white
before and after each line.
Appropriate for this seems to me: \null\quad material \quad\null\crlf
etc.; the preceding \null preventing disappearence of the first \quad.
The strange thing is that the \null in the first line induces an extra
vertical whitespace between the top of the frame and the first line
inside the frame.
An impression of the result:
---
|� �� �� �� �� �� �� �|� with \null in first line
|� �� �first line� � �|
|� �� �second line � �|
---
---
|� �� �first line� � �|� without \null in first line
|� �� �second line � �|
---
It seems counterintuitive to withhold the \null in the first line in
order to have the framing correct.
A minimal example on which I encountered this follows:
\setupbodyfont[cmr]
interesting, cmr
% gives extra vertical white
\startframedtext[middle][width=fit]
\null\quad\type{extra vertical space}\quad\null\crlf
\null\quad\type{normal vertical space}\quad\null
\stopframedtext
% normal vertical white
\startframedtext[middle][width=fit]
\quad\type{normal vertical space}\quad\null\crlf
\null\quad\type{normal vertical space}\quad\null
\stopframedtext
\stoptext
Does this occur elsewhere too?
Is it normal behaviour of framedtext?
the width=fit option will decompose the box try - as best as can do done with
current tex- determine the fittign width;
in the process, spacing may disappear
also, framed may place struts automatically
this may work:
\startframedtext[middle][width=fit]
\strut\endgraf
\type{extra vertical space}\endgraf
\type{normal vertical space}\endgraf
\strut\endgraf
\stopframedtext
as may this: (smaller strut)
\startframedtext[middle][width=fit,strut=no]
{\setupstrut[x]\strut}\endgraf\nointerlineskip
\type{extra vertical space}\endgraf
\type{normal vertical space}\endgraf
{\setupstrut[x]\strut}\endgraf\nointerlineskip
\stopframedtext
another option is to do something:
\framed [width=fit,offset=overlay] \bgroup
\vskip 1ex
\quad \framed[width=fit,frame=off] \bgroup
your content
\egroup \quad
\vskip 1ex
\egroup
or alike
Hans
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