Re: [NTG-context] how to get thick and thin borders working in tables (ConTeXt)
On 12/10/2008 4:05 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 7:07 AM, Lars Huttar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
However, when I try to mix double frames with single frames, I'm having
trouble. Here is what I tried, in order to get a cell with double frame
on the left, and single frame everywhere else:
\startuseMPgraphic{table:frame:Lrtb} % left border is double
draw leftboundary OverlayBox enlarged \the\dimexpr\linewidth*1\relax ; %
outer frame
draw leftboundary OverlayBox enlarged -\the\dimexpr\linewidth*2\relax ;
% inner frame
draw rightboundary OverlayBox enlarged -\the\dimexpr\linewidth/2\relax ;
draw topboundary OverlayBox enlarged -\the\dimexpr\linewidth/2\relax ;
draw bottomboundary OverlayBox enlarged -\the\dimexpr\linewidth/2\relax ;
setbounds currentpicture to OverlayBox ;
\stopuseMPgraphic
Now the graphic has double line on the left and a single line elsewhere.
However, the lines are thicker than in the previous one... about twice
as thick, too heavy for our requirements. And I can't tell why. This is
true on all four sides.
See http://www.huttar.net/lars-kathy/tmp/test-mp-tableframe.pdf, second
table.
Also, on the side that has double lines, the double lines don't go all
the way to the top and bottom (see same pdf, second table), so that the
double line is not continuous across multiple rows.
Any suggestions?
The above graphic is used as follows...
\start
\setupTABLE[c][first][background={table:frame:Lrtb}]
\getbuffer
\stop
\startuseMPgraphic{table:frame:all}
draw OverlayBox enlarged -0.2 ;
setbounds currentpicture to OverlayBox ;
\stopuseMPgraphic
\startuseMPgraphic{table:frame:leftdouble}
draw OverlayBox leftenlarged 2 topenlarged -0.2 bottomenlarged -0.2
rightenlarged -0.2 ;
setbounds currentpicture to OverlayBox ;
\stopuseMPgraphic
\defineoverlay[table:frame:all][\useMPgraphic{table:frame:all}]
\defineoverlay[table:frame:leftdouble][\useMPgraphic{table:frame:leftdouble}]
\starttext
\startbuffer
\bTABLE[frame=off,offset=2ex]
\bTR
\bTD One \eTD
\bTD Two \eTD
\bTD Three \eTD
\eTR
\bTR
\bTD Four \eTD
\bTD Five \eTD
\bTD Six \eTD
\eTR
\bTR
\bTD Seven \eTD
\bTD Eight \eTD
\bTD Nine \eTD
\eTR
\eTABLE
\stopbuffer
\start
\setupTABLE[background={table:frame:all}]
\setupTABLE[c][first][background={table:frame:all,table:frame:leftdouble}]
\getbuffer
\stop
\stoptext
Wolfgang
This fixes the problems I mentioned in my previous email. Thanks again
for that!
Unfortunately, when I generalize it, it takes us back to producing
triple borders between adjacent cells. I think this is inevitable when
overlaying a double frame (for certain sides) on top of a single frame
for all sides, because a double side overlaid on a single side cannot be
centered (or else the single line shows through separately from the
double line).
So my fix... which I'm posting here in hopes that someone may refine it,
and for the benefit of others who may attempt similar things... is to
center the double frames between the cells and avoid overlaying a double
frame side over a single frame side.
We center borders between the cells by using enlarged values -0.2 +/-
k, i.e. center around -0.2. I'm not sure why -0.2 works better than
zero, but it does... Doing this makes coincident border lines from
adjacent cells look like ordinary single lines instead of being extra
thick. We settled on k = 0.6 to get the desired distance between our
double lines. Incidentally, I wish I knew how to put -0.2, 0.2-k, and
-0.2+k into variables or something so that they could all be changed in
one place, instead of hard-coded in many places. Maybe somebody can help
me there.
A cost of this single-overlay-per-cell approach is that we have to
specify individually the 16 possible overlays (combinations of single
and double edges) for any possible cell. But that's not too bad, as we
only have to define them once. (In practice, we also had to define a
couple of special cases where we needed some cells with open edges for a
faked rowspan. We haven't completely got those working yet.)
An unexpected and potentially large benefit of this approach is that for
each cell, we only generate one MPgraphic (apparently because we only
use one overlay per cell), which should make the TeX run much faster,
and avoid running over the maxnumMPgraphics limit. With the
multiple-overlay-per-cell approach, we ended up using about 13,000
MPgraphics for our document, far beyond the default limit of 4000, and
taking 15 minutes to run compared to 37 seconds for a similar document
without the tables.
Here is our working system... hope it's helpful to somebody:
define MPgraphics for double-ruled tables
% Lars Huttar, 2008-12-09
% Thanks to Wolfgang Schuster on NTG-list
% Each MPgraph (and overlay) is named lrtb, with capitalized letters
indicating which sides are double-ruled.
% Adjacent
Re: [NTG-context] how to get thick and thin borders working in tables (ConTeXt)
On 12/11/2008 3:24 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 11.12.2008 um 18:05 schrieb Lars Huttar:
We center borders between the cells by using enlarged values -0.2 +/-
k, i.e. center around -0.2. I'm not sure why -0.2 works better than
zero, but it does... Doing this makes coincident border lines from
adjacent cells look like ordinary single lines instead of being extra
thick. We settled on k = 0.6 to get the desired distance between our
double lines. Incidentally, I wish I knew how to put -0.2, 0.2-k, and
-0.2+k into variables or something so that they could all be changed in
one place, instead of hard-coded in many places. Maybe somebody can help
me there.
\startMPinitializations
numeric InnerFrame, MiddleFrame, OuterFrame ;
InnerFrame := 0.2 ;
MiddleFrame := 0.4 ;
OuterFrame := 0.8 ;
\stopMPinitializations
Makes sense.
Thanks... this will make the code clearer and more maintainable.
% 1 double side
\startuseMPgraphic{table:frame:Lrtb} % left double
draw OverlayBox leftenlarged MiddleFrame topenlarged -InnerFrame
bottomenlarged -InnerFrame rightenlarged -InnerFrame ;
draw OverlayBox leftenlarged -OuterFrame topenlarged -InnerFrame
bottomenlarged -InnerFrame rightenlarged -InnerFrame ;
setbounds currentpicture to OverlayBox ;
\stopuseMPgraphic
An unexpected and potentially large benefit of this approach is that for
each cell, we only generate one MPgraphic (apparently because we only
use one overlay per cell), which should make the TeX run much faster,
and avoid running over the maxnumMPgraphics limit. With the
multiple-overlay-per-cell approach, we ended up using about 13,000
MPgraphics for our document, far beyond the default limit of 4000, and
taking 15 minutes to run compared to 37 seconds for a similar document
without the tables.
Use the 'nomprun' switch for texexec
texexec --nomprun --xtx file
ConTeXt collects now all graphics and process them after the TeX run.
Hmm... we tried this, but it doesn't seem to make any obvious difference.
Is this supposed to give a speed improvement? or get around the
maxnumMPgraphics limit?
Thanks again for your help.
Lars
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[NTG-context] how to get thick and thin borders working in tables (ConTeXt)
Hello, We are using ConTeXt (with XeTeX engine) to typeset some tables that have borders (rules) between cells. In the previous edition of the book (which was not done in TeX), some of the lines between table cells were double, others single. This was done to show grouping of columns and rows. We have been told that in TeX, or at least in ConTeXt, you can't do double rules (we'd be happy to be corrected on that point), so we have been trying to use thick and thin lines to show grouping. Thick or thin lines work fine if applied to whole tables or whole cells, but when there are cells with thick rules on some sides and thin rules on other sides, it gets confused. For example, we tried (a) \setupTABLE[c][4][leftframe=on,rulethickness=0.5mm] to set the left border of the fourth column to be thick. This worked. But then if we use (b) \setupTABLE[c][4][rightframe=on,rulethickness=0.25mm] to set the right border of the same column to be thin, it overrides the thickness of both left and right borders, so setting (a) is lost. In other words, we can't seem to get a given cell to have a thick border on one side and a thin border on the other side. (Well, we could fake it in some cases by setting rulethickness for an adjacent cell, but that adjacent cell would then have to have thick borders on all sides.) Does anybody know if it's possible to do this in ConTeXt? or in TeX? Thanks for any ideas, Lars P.S. Incidentally, if you set the bottom border of row 1 and the top border of row 2 each to be thick, the result is additive: you get a doubly-thick border. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] how to get thick and thin borders working in tables (ConTeXt)
On 12/9/2008 2:01 PM, Lars Huttar wrote:
On 12/9/2008 12:04 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
We applied your example to our document, and were able to get it working
with thick and thin lines. Thanks very much!
Now since you included double lines in your example, I've been aspiring
to use that instead of just thick lines...
\startuseMPgraphic{table:frame:double}
draw OverlayBox enlarged -\the\dimexpr\linewidth/2\relax ; % outer frame
draw OverlayBox enlarged -2pt ;% inner frame
setbounds currentpicture to OverlayBox ;
\stopuseMPgraphic
OK... the above results in triple lines between cells, so I modified the
draw OverlayBox lines as follows:
draw OverlayBox enlarged \the\dimexpr\linewidth*1\relax ; % outer frame
draw OverlayBox enlarged -\the\dimexpr\linewidth*2\relax ; % inner frame
This was mainly experimental, as I don't fully understand the model.
(I looked up some Metapost references but couldn't find a definition of
enlarged.) But it seems to work: the double lines between two cells
overlap exactly, so you get a consistent look.
However, when I try to mix double frames with single frames, I'm having
trouble. Here is what I tried, in order to get a cell with double frame
on the left, and single frame everywhere else:
\startuseMPgraphic{table:frame:Lrtb} % left border is double
draw leftboundary OverlayBox enlarged \the\dimexpr\linewidth*1\relax ; %
outer frame
draw leftboundary OverlayBox enlarged -\the\dimexpr\linewidth*2\relax ;
% inner frame
draw rightboundary OverlayBox enlarged -\the\dimexpr\linewidth/2\relax ;
draw topboundary OverlayBox enlarged -\the\dimexpr\linewidth/2\relax ;
draw bottomboundary OverlayBox enlarged -\the\dimexpr\linewidth/2\relax ;
setbounds currentpicture to OverlayBox ;
\stopuseMPgraphic
Now the graphic has double line on the left and a single line elsewhere.
However, the lines are thicker than in the previous one... about twice
as thick, too heavy for our requirements. And I can't tell why. This is
true on all four sides.
See http://www.huttar.net/lars-kathy/tmp/test-mp-tableframe.pdf, second
table.
Also, on the side that has double lines, the double lines don't go all
the way to the top and bottom (see same pdf, second table), so that the
double line is not continuous across multiple rows.
Any suggestions?
The above graphic is used as follows...
\start
\setupTABLE[c][first][background={table:frame:Lrtb}]
\getbuffer
\stop
Thanks,
Lars
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