[NTG-context] overprinting black
Hi, esp. Hans, while finalizing the PDF for our latest book, I recognized a color problem: The general black color is rendered not 100% black in CMYK mode, but in all channels (converted RGB, I guess). With \definecolor[cmykblack][k=1] \setupcolors[textcolor=cmykblack] this is ok, but the color mode is knockout instead of overprint (as it would be usual for CMYK black). That means, black text on a photo is white in the other plates. If I define \definecolor[cmykblack][k=1,a=multiply,t=1] \setupcolors[textcolor=cmykblack] it’s ok in some places, but it messes up many unrelated places, e.g. most images then also use this transparency mode. \setupcolors[intent=overprint] has no effect, as far as could find (while we have a warning in the wiki, that you should use this only for grayscale works). What can I do? Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] overprinting black
Am 09.11.22 um 17:22 schrieb Duncan Hothersall: Have you tried overprint=yes? I have that in old files which used to work under mkii. I must admit I haven't had the need to use overprinting since then, but I do recall that come colour handling wasn't ported across to mkiv or later. Thank you for the hint, but it doesn’t work, neither in \setupcolors nor in \definecolor. Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] overprinting black
Have you tried overprint=yes? I have that in old files which used to work under mkii. I must admit I haven't had the need to use overprinting since then, but I do recall that come colour handling wasn't ported across to mkiv or later. Duncan On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 at 16:12, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context < ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote: > I’m not sure if this ever worked, but at least in latest LMTX it doesn’t: > > """ > \setupcolors[state=start,cmyk=yes,rgb=no,intent=overprint] > > \starttext > > \framed[ >background=color, >backgroundcolor=yellow, > ]{\ss\bfd >Black should always overprint. > } > > \stoptext > """ > > The black text and frame border don’t overprint the yellow background > but knockout. The only way to check this (that I know of) is Acrobat > Pro’s separation simulation; the screenshot shows a snippet of the > yellow separation. > > Actually, setting “overprint” for all colors doesn’t make sense, it > should be a setting for single color (but default for black): > > % desired interface: > \definecolor[overBlack][k=1,intent=overprint] > > Hraban > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > > ___ > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] overprinting black
I’m not sure if this ever worked, but at least in latest LMTX it doesn’t: """ \setupcolors[state=start,cmyk=yes,rgb=no,intent=overprint] \starttext \framed[ background=color, backgroundcolor=yellow, ]{\ss\bfd Black should always overprint. } \stoptext """ The black text and frame border don’t overprint the yellow background but knockout. The only way to check this (that I know of) is Acrobat Pro’s separation simulation; the screenshot shows a snippet of the yellow separation. Actually, setting “overprint” for all colors doesn’t make sense, it should be a setting for single color (but default for black): % desired interface: \definecolor[overBlack][k=1,intent=overprint] Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___